Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by The MISTER
The pot said to the kettle....

Originally posted by The MISTER
What are Wolverines stats again? He's not strong enough to muscle out of being wrapped up in large amounts of duct tape ( According to his stats ) but you pretend as if the webbing is too weak to hold him and Spidey's too slow to hit him.

Originally posted by The MISTER
You prove yourself to be biased for Wolverine repeatedly....

Originally posted by The MISTER
I have never said that Wolverine couldn't beat Spider-man but I can't see what puts the odds in his favor. His inside are normal unlike his bones and his bio contradicts some of the things that he has done.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Some, not all but I mainly see his supporters producing examples that contradict the character bios.

Have you figured out yet that Doc Ock's tentacle speed is listed at 61 mph? A speed slower than baseball pitches? But constantly gives spiderman, who can sense danger long before it happens, a hard time?

Or how about how Spiderman's webstrength is 534 MPa where as High grade steel is 896 Mpa? And yet he's holding things much stronger and heavier than 534 MPa. . .

Originally posted by jinzin
nobody tried to start stuff...nobody got owned...do you even understand what owned means?

Do you?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Do you?

yup....i just think you're using the word where it doesn't apply..

Originally posted by jinzin
ummm we're not using the characters how we want them to be portrayed...but how they have been portrayed...considering the characters in this thread have duked it out on several occasions DIRECT COMPARISONS are absolutely the best way to gauge how they would fair against one another....

No, actually you are.

You put these crazy ideas of wolverine doing stuff that he isn't physically able to do, and pass them off as your arguments, showing little logic.

All of your biased comparisons mean little.

Originally posted by jinzin
you used three examples of wolverine against people when he's been wounded or downgraded and one example of him fighting a character who laguhs off death and transcends light speed.....

does anyone else see the problem with this here?

You put up pics of spiderman having problems with kingpin, but you gauge wolverine to be a god of some sort. Immortal, and can't die by conventional means.

You think wolverine beats namor because it happened.

You do the same with spiderman, anyone else see this bad logic here?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No, actually you are.

You put these crazy ideas of wolverine doing stuff that he isn't physically able to do, and pass them off as your arguments, showing little logic.

All of your biased comparisons mean little.

it's not my comparison...it's a marvel made comparison....if everytime spiderman loses is a biased moment...then so be it....

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's heavily biased against Wolverine and is not subjective at all.

He constantly says that he doesn't hate Woplverine, but he doesn't read his books and says that he's a flat two dimensional character. He then proceeds to dredge up feats against him, even in threads where he says he'll win.

Almost like he says that JUST to be able to say that he doesn't hate Wolverine.

I mean he says that Wolverine is powered UP to fight Spiderman.

Powered up from what? His own comics? Oh no. Even if it's something he's done 1,000 times, this is just to please the Wolverine fans.

And DESPITE showing plenty of exapmples of wolverine healing form massive injuries he says "Oh that's so they don't kill the cash cow!" Right around the same time that other cash cows were being killed off.

Uncanny X-Men 150-152 for example. Storm was killed by havok, and four other X-MEn entered into the siege perilous and I remember other X-men dying because of this table with Xs over there face.

But despite killing these characters off, AND bringing them back through wierd plot devices, they couldn't kill wolverine. . . and why not I ask?

Because of a profile and statistics that he only uses if they are in his favor.

THIS is evidenced by the Doc Ock thread. Doc Ock's stats show that he shouldn't be able to do something he does constantly, but in THAT case he rules in favor of Doc Ock's comic book feats and continues to say that Wolverine's feats are outside of his abilities.

Wolverine is bound to his profile, but noone else is. this carries over into non-spiderman threads as well, so it's obvious that he hates the character, and this bias and hypocrasy is why I don't directly respond to any of his posts. He thinks he's all that, and insists that the opinions of other people's veiw of him are valid, even if they are attacking him or have attacked him.

Please, save it.

I am not biased, nor subjective, I think OBJECTIVLEY.

put these characters hand and hand and see what they can do, and I see spiderman comes on top.

I don't use ANYTHING towards Spiderman's favor, I don't even use matches to give YOU a chance.

You post shit up and don't explain it, and if you do its piss poor.

Wolverine can cut despite leverage, and break free of webbing.

Mucsles work by pushing, instead of pulling.

Wolverine can jump thirty feet in the air.

You don't explain anything, but defensively PICK at other peoples points, you don't use logic.

Just like when I went on the other thread about agility, you sat there and said spiderman rushes into all of his fights, based on those.

I then asked you to compare that to his career, you couldn't.

Your method of debating involves dragging shit on so long that it looks like you are debating.

Wolverine is PEAK human, and you insist he is superhuman, like jinzin, like fanboys do.

You insist he can move faster than sound many times, and expect me to believe it.

As for wolverine vs ock, you got OWNED, and didn't want to accept it.

explain how spiderman got his spider powers....

Originally posted by jinzin
it's not my comparison...it's a marvel made comparison....if everytime spiderman loses is a biased moment...then so be it....

Marvel my ass, marvel isn't here now.

Why does flash get hit by boomerangs, to make the match look good.

It is made by writers to entertain, you fail to use logic continuosly, which is why I don't bother arguing with you, because THIS is your only argument, over and over again.

You use crossovers as your argument?

I don't think ANYTHING is biased, I avoid using the wolvieboy, "wolverine beat xxx" argument, that you guys like to use.

Reason within their abilities.

Originally posted by jinzin
wolverine's not 800 pounds.... 😕

the webbing falling off...I'm pretty sure that's just artists being lazy...it however did not effect the end result of the story....

The end result was very much effected by the inconsistincy in the webbings strength....

Originally posted by jinzin
who know's why wolverine can peirce thing in one instance ut then not in another..maybe bias writing..does anyone know where that pic came from anyways?

Originally posted by jinzin
anywho..we DO have to assess the situation on a system of most likelys but if we are to do that WHILE using them at their absolute 100% best, YET avoid bad writing pis and cis....then............well...........HOW THE **** are we supposed to make an accurate assessment?

Originally posted by jinzin
we can't...not given those rules....which is why I keep defering to the direct comparisons...they are the best source for evidence for this fight we can get...

Why act as though direct comparisons are not subjected to innacuracy when they are just more comics with more plots. When you use examples that are not supported by the characters given abilities (like someone who would use the things invulnerability to Wolverine's claws repeatedly despite your knowledge of their ability to cut anything not adamantium) you are only pretending to not be aware of what is accuratefor I know that you know the characters well.

Peace man. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Marvel my ass, marvel isn't here now.

Why does flash get hit by boomerangs, to make the match look good.

It is made by writers to entertain, you fail to use logic continuosly, which is why I don't bother arguing with you, because THIS is your only argument, over and over again.

You use crossovers as your argument?

I don't think ANYTHING is biased, I avoid using the wolvieboy, "wolverine beat xxx" argument, that you guys like to use.

Reason within their abilities.

explain spiderman's powers..how he got them...

Originally posted by jinzin
explain spiderman's powers..how he got them...

Reason withing his abilities in this matchup first...

I don't hate you, but you know what you are doing.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually I'm the kettle speaking back to the pot. I was pointing out your hypocrasy.

Because Spiderman always operates within his stats right?

Most of the time he operates underneath his stats.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's heavily biased against Wolverine and is not subjective at all.

He constantly says that he doesn't hate Woplverine, but he doesn't read his books and says that he's a flat two dimensional character. He then proceeds to dredge up feats against him, even in threads where he says he'll win.

Almost like he says that JUST to be able to say that he doesn't hate Wolverine.

I mean he says that Wolverine is powered UP to fight Spiderman.

Powered up from what? His own comics? Oh no. Even if it's something he's done 1,000 times, this is just to please the Wolverine fans.

And DESPITE showing plenty of exapmples of wolverine healing form massive injuries he says "Oh that's so they don't kill the cash cow!" Right around the same time that other cash cows were being killed off.

Uncanny X-Men 150-152 for example. Storm was killed by havok, and four other X-MEn entered into the siege perilous and I remember other X-men dying because of this table with Xs over there face.

But despite killing these characters off, AND bringing them back through wierd plot devices, they couldn't kill wolverine. . . and why not I ask?

Because of a profile and statistics that he only uses if they are in his favor.

THIS is evidenced by the Doc Ock thread. Doc Ock's stats show that he shouldn't be able to do something he does constantly, but in THAT case he rules in favor of Doc Ock's comic book feats and continues to say that Wolverine's feats are outside of his abilities.

Wolverine is bound to his profile, but noone else is. this carries over into non-spiderman threads as well, so it's obvious that he hates the character, and this bias and hypocrasy is why I don't directly respond to any of his posts. He thinks he's all that, and insists that the opinions of other people's veiw of him are valid, even if they are attacking him or have attacked him.

Blah blah blah, you all the sudden gained the ability to use paragraphs now, and all you do is ***** about me?

Or you answer everything with a question?

Don't be mad that spidermans stats favor him, dont be stupid, they're supposed to... get that?

You are just mad and bitter about me owning you...

Originally posted by The MISTER
They contradict the given abilities.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Most of the time he operates underneath his stats.

And/or each time he webs up something that can exert greater than 534 Mpa it's pis/cis.

Each time he gets hit by one of doc Ock's tentacles it's PIS/CIS.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So spiderman is just as guilty of PIS/CIS as Wolverine is.

seeing as how they put a number on his spidersense, each time he reacts in a way not described in his profile it's pis/cis.

And/or each time he webs up something that can exert greater than 534 Mpa it's pis/cis.

Each time he gets hit by one of doc Ock's tentacles it's PIS/CIS.

Please, wolverine is the KING of pis/cis, spiderman is like the only one relatively untainted.

Wolverine is horribly inconsistant, to not realize this...

The C Homey got a point but the Cresh Homey also got one, then again the Will Homey had one point, but the Jinz Homey countered it.

Originally posted by PimpXMaster
The C Homey got a point but the Cresh Homey also got one, then again the Will Homey had one point, but the Jinz Homey countered it.

Indeed...

Anyone can HAVE a point, mr pimp, but you need good ones...lol

My Spider Homey could take this but my Wolvie Homey, Got Skills, and he was whooping ass before my Spider Homey was in his Pappy Homeys Sack. Ya feel me.

Originally posted by PimpXMaster
My Spider Homey could take this but my Wolvie Homey, Got Skills, and he was whooping ass before my Spider Homey was in his Pappy Homeys Sack. Ya feel me.

Not as a superhero though.
Spiderman has skills, strength, speed, and precognition, with webbing.

He takes it...most often.