Originally posted by brainchild81
🙂Spidey and Wolvie are 2 of the most interesting characters in comics today. A fight between the 2 is always a treat for the fans.
fu(K you. you treat this fight as a way to humiliate someone you hate. now you acting like it's all fun and good, admit it... youre physically, mentally, and emotionally attached to this thread. 🤓 👇
us "fanboys" have been posting nothing but evidence on how logan can beat spidey/tag spidey or at the very least keep up with pete's abilities.
but no, you cant have that.... to the extent of calling everything that logan has performed in the books as PIS, CIS, crap writing. then cordera comes in and calls his healing factor as a plot device, a main factor in logan's character, the ****?
LOL @ yall
Originally posted by Pointinel
fu(K you. you treat this fight as a way to humiliate someone you hate. now you acting like it's all fun and good, admit it... youre physically, mentally, and emotionally attached to this thread. 🤓 👇us "fanboys" have been posting nothing but evidence on how logan can beat spidey/tag spidey or at the very least keep up with pete's abilities.
but no, you cant have that.... to the extent of calling everything that logan has performed in the books as PIS, CIS, crap writing. then cordera comes in and calls his healing factor as a plot device, a main factor in logan's character, the ****?
LOL @ yall
Silly mortals still trying to understand what I mean by that, the logan boys are sooo sensitieve.
People haven't said much on logans side but the same ol', "it happened"
Anyways, its a plot device because it goes to the needs of each writer, and changes EXPONENTIALLY, much like batmans belt.
The problem with logan is he is soo over exposed and inconsistently written that he has become overrated.
Logan starts out with a healing factor, where he was a faster than a human healer, getting shot and other things still matterd, so he relied on his skill to win, and not run into all his hits. Now people think he survives a nuke.
Also, the best of logans matches were when he didn't use his claws to win, he was showing his BEST skill and willpower then, and it was GREAT writing.
Now, he's written poorly and overexposed. A comic failing, just put wolverine in it.
Face it, the xmen will NEVER make a comic series with a different cast, without putting wolverine in it. Why? Wolverine is a cash cow, and that is just the dirty truth.
He has GREAT potential and can be written as a foe, good guy, and everything, he has a good background.
What the writers do is try to appeal to the fanboys, and bend over backwards, making him overrated and sometimes a joke in the hardcore comic readers.
@CM
dude you dont even read comics, the **** do you know?
what's happening in the MU right now?
who are the young avengers?
what's happening in runaways?
why is magnus alive? why should he be dead in the 1st place?
why is the new avengers formed?
who broke in the x-mansion recently?
what's happening in thunderbolts?
why did peter got so mad at ASM #522?
what recently happened to thing?
ok let's switch up to DC....
why is bats mad?
why is supes mad?
what's eating up nightwing?
why are the thanagarians at war?
who returned the Secret society of villains member's memories?
why did max lord die?
i can go on and on nigga... id do vertigo and wildstorm if you like
Originally posted by Pointinel
@CM
dude you dont even read comics, the **** do you know?what's happening in the MU right now?
who are the young avengers?
what's happening in runaways?
why is magnus alive? why should he be dead in the 1st place?
why is the new avengers formed?
who broke in the x-mansion recently?
what's happening in thunderbolts?
why did peter got so mad at ASM #522?
what recently happened to thing?
ok let's switch up to DC....
why is bats mad?
why is supes mad?
what's eating up nightwing?
why are the thanagarians at war?
who returned the Secret society of villains member's memories?
why did max lord die?
i can go on and on nigga... id do vertigo and wildstorm if you like
😉 So I'm right.
What are the four spirit forces?
Who are the five gods?
What type of spirit is fanta?
Where did fei long have his last fight?
Who is ryu tutoring?
What is bison's first name?
How many volumes are in the very first manga in tokyopop?
What volume is Psychic academy right now?
Who is the main character in psychic academy?
Name the main characters in love hina?
What issue number was Alex in charge?
Who did kingpin push out of a window?
Who did carnage kill in the ultimate series?
Who took over slade?
What can Impulse/Kid flash do that the other flashes cannot do?
What gift did wonder girl recieve?
What is superboys powers?
Who are superboys doners?
Who found out about this?
Author of ranma 1/2?
What is special about the latest robin?
What is the name of the agency that researched the symbiotes?
How many doctors degrees does connors have?
Who fought a hero in hollywood recently?
What was the name of the recent host for the venom symbiote?
What is the name of the recent mutant taking over minds?
Who is ryang's best friend?
Who is the new king of muai tai?
What arc was digger in?
Who practices the art of "anasten"?
What is the name of the " Vanquisher of the Dark Overlord"?
Who is the king of the heavens, and has a pipe that grants him his power?
Who was trained to wed this king?
What are the six families of chi?
What is the name of the spirit guard of earth?
Who are the residents of hinata inn?
Who is Su?
What does she specialize in?
Who broke into the soul forge recently?
Who is bishop?
What are the origins of splinter?
Who killed Gouken, (there are 5 different stories).
Who is ryu's teacher?
What is Akuma's name in japanese?
Who was the second person faced in the gt era?
What creature resides on the astral plane?
What are soul gems?
What are used to create them?
How many years does it take to create a phylacrety?
What are the EIGHT classes of the dragon?
What comics are in the max story line?
Name ALL of spiderman's upgrades?
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On and on and on, see you guys try to do something, I'll just piss right on it, you came to win and make a point, you lost.
Your best bet would be to stop listening to jinzin, and the other c-haters around here, chances are I read more than ALL of them.
And I WRITE on top of that, and design my own comics, in fact I have some out now, can you tell me the name of that.
I find it insulting that I'm considered a person that doesn't read comics, when I come to the ****ing library every damned day to go to the forum, what the hell do you think I'm doing?
The problem is you guys use NO LOGIC in your presentations, and then WHINE when everyone disagrees with you.
90% of your damned arguments have more holes in it than a wiffle ball, and you guys want to change the subject, and resort to one liners and flaming.
Logan loses, 2 can play that game, he has had none of these "upgrades" you guys speak of, and you guys are still here.
I have yet to see you do an OUNCE of debating since you've been here, only backpat your fellow friends, fine.
Don't antagonize me, and you won't come off looking like a fool.
Consider yourself OWNED!
^ROFL
a black dude reading a bunch of SF and anime bullshit. GTFOH!!!
Originally posted by Pointinel
^ROFLa black dude reading a bunch of SF and anime bullshit. GTFOH!!!
I read EVERYTHING, draw everything too. So I read more comics than pretty much ANY of you, so what you did backfired, like wolverine fanboys tend to.
Human anatomy, fighting skill, car mechanics, read it. done it.
You are just as bad as me, and you want to toss the cape on me?
Thats cute, seeing as that stuff is read worldwide anyway...
You are reading comics, and praising a guy in tights, me and zahit had this theory on this, you are displaying your homoerotic love for another character, and don't want ANYONE to know.
Funny indeed boy, go put your daddy back on the line now.
I've hope you learned your lesson, its not HOW MANY you read, its HOW you interpret them, SOME people around here read 10000 and can't interpret any of them.
I don't read every comic out there, and I'm sure noone does, but I don't come on, not knowing what the hell I'm talking about.
Go run to your mama creshosk, and your papa jinzin.
Originally posted by Pointinel
^ROFLa black dude reading a bunch of SF and anime bullshit. GTFOH!!!
Resorts to putting up pics, because he is exposed as the ignorant one here.
Playtime was fune with you little boy, but I'm going to a game tonight, I don't have time in schooling people who have no life...
And guess who that is?
Originally posted by Pointinel
^ROFLa black dude reading a bunch of SF and anime bullshit. GTFOH!!!
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/memberpics.php?user=CorderaMitchell#CorderaMitchell
Just so you don't forget...
Originally posted by jinzinYes. I will. Because it shows how adamant your fanboyism, can be 😆 In my face. No. In YOUR face dude. I just remembered I already schooled you on that Wolvie let Spidey hit him part. Your buddy Merc seemed impressed because I forced you to prove my point for me. He said my post reminded him of one of his tactics. I said something like "really, I didn't notice any insults in there" and we had a little laugh. Has Hulk ever speed-beat Wolvie like Spidey has? Just kept pounding on him until he stopped trying to get up. Every time Wolvie tried to get up he was beat back down. READING IS FUNDAMENTAL!!!! Also remember I've already said Wolvie was fighting a scared as s**t younger, dumber, milk 'n' cookies , didn't even utilize the webs in that fight, Spidey who had seen Wolvie murder people like he was mowing the lawn, not the older more experienced, not scared of Wolvie anymore Spidey who beats Wolvie into a fetal position(before passing out. I know) and chucks Wolvie through windows. Wolvie said Spidey could snap his neck. Seeing as how only the bones and not the spinal cords are laced with adamantium. I think he was right. Spidey believes it. Wolvie believe it. The writer believed it. You know the writers, who are always right in your book unless it kills one of your arguments. 😆 Also If I remember right, Wolvie had his guard down during a T.Session and Marrow stabbed him in the throat. Spidey and Cap or Spidey and DD were trying to stop Wolvie from doing something. If it was a fight, Wolvie would've went fetal again. Has Hulk ever speed-beat Wolvie like Spidey has? Just kept pounding on him until he stopped trying to get up. Every time Wolvie tried to get up he was beat back down.
incident where spidey and cap try to stop wolverine through webbing billy club and chop to the throat= non fight?incident where the x-men are simply trying to stop spiderman from escaping and wolverine even say I don't want to hurt you bub=fight... 🙄 PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!!!!!!
wolverine always has his claws out at irrational times...look MTU number 1...he had his claws out and he said he was only trying to help the kid...than why did he have his claws out? pfft..who knows...he always does though....
as far as the rooftop battle..i didn't say spiderman was going all out...just saying he was definitely fighting at a level prpared to take down someone superhuman....he gets clocked IN SPITE of his spider sense...
in the graveyard fight I emplore you look at the pics yourself...
wolverine in response to spiderman "here it comes"
spiderman wasn't doing anything fancy, he attacked in a linear draw...wolverine already had his claws out in front of his face like he was about to block....had he been going all out he would have chopped spiderman's arms off....funny how HULK punches don't stop wolverine from slashing away but you seem to think spiderman's would....he was smiling at spiderman for his troubles.... merc:"I've smiled in a few fights and I can tell you it's not because I was helpless" I can totally relate....wolverine let spiderman hit him... spiderman in turn let wolverine tackle him but you ignore once again....BECAUSE HE RAN INTO A WALL....he was at a complete lack of options and I quote "iv'e given him everything I've got, he just keeps coming, I finally realize there's only one way to stop him." what was this way you ask? by breaking his neck of course....can spiderman do that? HELL....NO......spiderman doesn't have the strength or anything even close to be able to do so for that matter.....HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA infact now I realize spiderman indirectly admitted that he had NOTHING capable of putting logan down....😂
in your face!
this is not the batman carnage fight...leave that argument in THAT thread.....
Originally posted by PointinelWho do I hate here? You know here, where I've never met anybody here in person? Where we are debating about comics? We're talking about fictional characters here, not family members kid. Maybe you just wanted to get your post count higher. I forgive you, for you know not what you do. 😮
fu(K you. you treat this fight as a way to humiliate someone you hate. now you acting like it's all fun and good, admit it... youre physically, mentally, and emotionally attached to this thread. 🤓 👇us "fanboys" have been posting nothing but evidence on how logan can beat spidey/tag spidey or at the very least keep up with pete's abilities.
but no, you cant have that.... to the extent of calling everything that logan has performed in the books as PIS, CIS, crap writing. then cordera comes in and calls his healing factor as a plot device, a main factor in logan's character, the ****?
LOL @ yall
Originally posted by brainchild81
Yes. I will. Because it shows how adamant your fanboyism, can be 😆 In my face. No. In YOUR face dude. I just remembered I already schooled you on that Wolvie let Spidey hit him part.
again....ignoring spiderman could do nothing else....he was at a lack options....you didn't school me on anything...I'm the one that posted the pics with that qute for everyone to see.....spiderman says he lets wolverine tackle him...why because nothing else was working and spiderman thought there was only one way to stop him seeing hw nothing else did any good..he tried to break logan's neck..the whole idea behind him letting wolverine tackle him was to break the guys neck because punches weren't doing anything.....can he break logan's neck? NO...so he indirectly admitted to having NOTHING that could put wolverine down...
Originally posted by brainchild81
Has Hulk ever speed-beat Wolvie like Spidey has? Just kept pounding on him until he stopped trying to get up. Every time Wolvie tried to get up he was beat back down. READING IS FUNDAMENTAL!!!!
yup...maybe you should learn how sometime....spiderman says he can't get wolverine to stop smiling....we see wolverine saying here it comes than he starts taking spidey punches to the face....if he wanted to hurt spiderman he would have slashed at spiderman's incoming jackhammers....being hit in the head like that doesn't keep wolverine from flailing his arms...so we're left to assume that wolverine was doing exaclt what you said he was doing...trying to simply get up....which is evident when he DID get up....as he didn't stab spiderman in the tackle nor in his punch....he was holding back for spiderman's safety...if he wanted to get up...one or two slashes would be all he needed..also up close who has greater range...wolverine plus claws or spiderman's arms...wolverine could've just stabbed him....he didn't...he was holding back...a lot....
Originally posted by brainchild81
Also remember I've already said Wolvie was fighting a scared as s**t younger, dumber, milk 'n' cookies , didn't even utilize the webs in that fight, Spidey who had seen Wolvie murder people like he was mowing the lawn, not the older more experienced, not scared of Wolvie anymore Spidey who beats Wolvie into a fetal position(before passing out. I know) and chucks Wolvie through windows.
fetal....when wolverine's not fighting back....at all.........funny how that aspect of it changes things completely...........younger...a little bit...he was still very very very experienced in the super hero business....already took down some of his toughest foes to date by the time this came about....he was scared cause he knew what I know, one hit and it's over...spiderman DID try to web wolverine's arm before the fight got started....wolverine cut the webbing off...after they got in close spiderman could use the webbing...he didn't have enough time at that range..."I can't give him a second, he'll kill me".
Originally posted by brainchild81
Wolvie said Spidey could snap his neck. Seeing as how only the bones and not the spinal cords are laced with adamantium. I think he was right. Spidey believes it. Wolvie believe it. The writer believed it. You know the writers, who are always right in your book unless it kills one of your arguments.
spiderman assumed he could break wolvies neck..wolverine ASSUMED spiderman could do the same....just the same way you've ASSUMED spiderman can do it too....common sense dictates that the bones are not all interconnected by adamantium....too bad wolverine's character and comic books in general deviate from common sense...it's a known fact that wolverine's bones are bonded at the molecular level...unless spiderman has hulk level strength that I didn't know about, he wasn't about to break anything....cresh has covered this already..wolverine lied so he could stop the fight then and there without having to hurt anyone....
Originally posted by brainchild81
Also If I remember right, Wolvie had his guard down during a T.Session and Marrow stabbed him in the throat. Spidey and Cap or Spidey and DD were trying to stop Wolvie from doing something. If it was a fight, Wolvie would've went fetal again.
it's the same as the secret wars example...his opponents wanted to stop him..the only difference is..they didn't want to hold back using their best offensive weapons....the x-men did....if you consider secret wars the best example of a fight..than this should account for the same as it is the same exact scenario.....I'm trying to debate with you on your level...which is very hard to do thanks to all your contradictions and such.
you can't take away from the fact that wolverine's gotten out of webbing multiple times. that he's hit spiderman multiple time..and that he's got more going for him than you give him credit for...you say it doesn't count cause spiderman wasn't at his peak..when all three times logans humiliated him logan was holding back a TON.....are you aware that logan at his best is capable of putting down shingen, ogun, deathsrike, and sabretooth, and at the same time...AND in 4 seconds?
you seriously believe spiderman's ready to handle that at any level? I certainly don't....
in any case the discussion you and I are having over the graveyard fight as asserted to me the realization that THAT comic wasn't bad writing at all...they did exactly what good writers should do in that situation and made a fight where both spidey and logan look good to their respective readers without any referances to pis and such..I solute them....
catch ya later brainchild....
Originally posted by brainchild81
Who do I hate here? You know here, where I've never met anybody here in person? Where we are debating about comics? We're talking about fictional characters here, not family members kid. Maybe you just wanted to get your post count higher. I forgive you, for you know not what you do. 😮
you're a natural cornball arent you? lol, post counts? you actually pride yourself about being 1k deep in posts when you just started in april. young'n, i got work... and a life, and a son to feed. im a grown-ass man, post counts aint that important for me.
and just so you know i was referring to logan as the one you hate, dummy.
Originally posted by JuntaiIt's a molecular bonding. . . we don't know how he moves, we don't know the full process for bonding adamantium to the bones.
Does adamantium cover the cartilage between vertibre of his back and neck as well? If not, it would be easy to break his neck, I could do it. And if it IS laced with Adamantium, how does he move?