Originally posted by Juntai
His strength is the same as Spiderman according to Marvel.com. Although I think is more reconciling for the bullshit he pulls because I've never seen him lift anymore remotely close to this level.
no, it's just that the system on power levels are very vague...
and marvel directory isn't a very good source either.. the infomation provided on there is nearly always wrong in one way or another...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Not from punching him there wouldn't be any lasting damage. And that's the type of Hurt I'm talking about, nice ad prop argument though.
Ah. That wasn't clear. Use the word "damage" next time. Makes more sense.
He does still feel pain by the way. Which can hinder him slightly until it heals. And depending on the damage, that can definitely add up.
Originally posted by MetalmanxPain doesn't seem to hinder him, usually its the thing that triggers the pain. Spiderman's fist would knock him on his ass, but the pain from the punch wouldn't hinder him(The fist is what hindered him). I think after shrugging off enough lethal to a normal human blows as he has you'd build up a tolerance for pain. Which would be why after punisher blew off his face it didn't hinder him.
Ah. That wasn't clear. Use the word "damage" next time. Makes more sense.He does still feel pain by the way. Which can hinder him slightly until it heals. And depending on the damage, that can definitely add up.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Pain doesn't seem to hinder him, usually its the thing that triggers the pain. Spiderman's fist would knock him on his ass, but the pain from the punch wouldn't hinder him(The fist is what hindered him). I think after shrugging off enough lethal to a normal human blows as he has you'd build up a tolerance for pain. Which would be why after punisher blew off his face it didn't hinder him.
I saw the scan for that. I know he didn't show it, since he was well...plenty pissed off, but you know it hurt him. It wasn't a field of daisies for him to take that to face. He was hurting. But he decided to be violent instead of wince in pain.
And to Jin, the blows that Spidey would continuously land on Wolverine would add up. You can't deny that. It would cause Wolverine pain, which will eventually subside as he heals, but pain nonetheless. Depending on the degree of it, such as extremely massive bleeding or a huge hole in his torso, it can greatly hinder him until he heals.
Originally posted by MetalmanxOh yeah, I'm not saying he doesn't feel the pain, just that it doesn't affect him the same as a normal human.
I saw the scan for that. I know he didn't show it, since he was well...plenty pissed off, but you know it hurt him. It wasn't a field of daisies for him to take that to face. He was hurting. But he decided to be violent instead of wince in pain.
Originally posted by MetalmanxMaybe if Spiderman decided to hit somewhere other than his favorite target(the head).
And to Jin, the blows that Spidey would continuously land on Wolverine would add up. You can't deny that. It would cause Wolverine pain, which will eventually subside as he heals, but pain nonetheless. Depending on the degree of it, such as extremely massive bleeding or a huge hole in his torso, it can greatly hinder him until he heals.
But I'm not seeing spiderman winning through h2h here, the webbing is the key, and then not holding back tactics intended to kill. webbing up the nose. . er wait. . . how air tight is the webbing? he has used it as a gas mask before. . . so it seems to be a breathable(as in air passes through it) material. . . hmm. . .
nah... you claim that the pain will add up.... spiderman already amittedly put everything he had into attacking wolverine with brute force... it didn't add up... he gassed out first... it would ass up if he could do more damage quicker than wolverine could heal.... unfortunately.. spiderman's already proven his inability to do that with kicks and punches vs. wolverine... AND spiderman's no hulk when it comes to using brute force... wolverine's organs were turned to jelly by hulk blows and reformed before hulk landed the next hit.. that's what spiderman's trying to over ride here IMO he simply doesn't have what it takes..
there's no evidence to say the opposite is true since spiderman's failed to add up hindering pain/damage 100% of the time against logan...
Originally posted by jinzinDoesn't matter, you were talking about ignoring pain.
yeah but you don't have a healing factor.. or an adamantium noggin..
I have healing, if me or logan were knocked out, we would still lose the match, granted he has the skeleton.
The skeleton which absorbs less concussive force in the first place, this has all been dwelt upon.
Originally posted by CreshoskIn the match.
No, being able to ignore the pain means the pain is not a deciding factor. . it's not factored in at all since it is. . well ignored, actually.
Fights at the highest level pretty much ignore pain, adrenaline ignores pain. Traumatic stress, all of this comes later.