Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Creshosk1,019 pages

Originally posted by willRules
thats a good point

I can't prove the bench was there for wolverine. I can't prove it wasn't there.

You said it wasn't there. I asked if you could prove it wasn't there. i'm not trying to "shift the burdon of proof" I have repeatedly said I can't prove it.

You said the bench wasn't there. Can you prove this?

Its like me saying the world is flat. You replied can you prove this? I said no.

You said the world is round. I said can you prove this?

No I didbn't. I said the world is "not flat" a bit different to saying that the world IS round. 🙂

Again, proving a negative. no no. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
I don't need to. 🙂

Burden of proof is still on your shoulders. Saying that you can't prove it doesn't shift it to me.

So there wasn't a bench unless proven otherwise.

Why isn't it just as easy to say that there was a bench there unless proven otherwise?

Your logic is faulty, my friend. You escape from answering questions far too often.

Meine Freunde dont argue make love.

Originally posted by willRules
steve could you please present to us a scenario in which you think wolverine could utilise to secure himself a victory?

Will spidey was KOed by wolvie when he stabbed him in the abdomen and when wolvie was chucked out of a window he came back in to the building like nothing had happened.

Originally posted by soleran30
now I'm just curious as to how they got wooden stakes in him? Did they stake his hands or wrists and feet? Cuz I mean adamantium might make it tough to stretch yeah know cuz the ligaments and tendons don't separate and no bones to drive them through
Why would they be trying to get it through the adamantium, it was supposed to injure wolverine, make him worse off, he was already chained to the cross,And your forearm is composed of two bones anyway. 🤨

Originally posted by Creshosk
No I didbn't. I said the world is "not flat" a bit different to saying that the world IS round. 🙂

Again, proving a negative. no no. 🙂

ok let me rephrase my incorrect scenario.

I said the world is flat.

you said prove it.

I said I can't

You said the world is not flat

can you prove that?

am i expected to prove my statements but you can avoid proving yours?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Why isn't it just as easy to say that there was a bench there unless proven otherwise?
Because the way burden of proof works. 🙂

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Your logic is faulty, my friend. You escape from answering questions far too often.
No, my logic isn't faulty, and that's what's so amusing. it's your guys's logic that's faulty.

You keep using these logical fallacies to prove your arguments.

Burden of proof is on the person making the claim of the positive. 🙂

Wolverine has a killer death ray that destroys the city. Wolverine wins. 🙂

I can't prove he has it, so it's up to you to prove that he doesn't. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
Why would they be trying to get it through the adamantium, it was supposed to injure wolverine, make him worse off, he was already chained to the cross,And your forearm is composed of two bones anyway. 🤨

Yeah and wolverine has 3 metal spikes inbetween those 2 bones not much room for a wooden spike that thick......

AND for the sake of discussion on tendon and ligaments again there are none on his face left none on the orbiculus occuli or orbiculus orris anyway my point is clear that his tendons and ligaments aren't covered in those pictures so must not be anywhere else. So now there is a burdon of proof that Wolverine's ligaments and tendons aren't protected by adamantium.

Originally posted by willRules
ok let me rephrase my incorrect scenario.

I said the world is flat.

you said prove it.

I said I can't

You said the world is not flat

can you prove that?

Again, don't need to. can't prove a negative, that's why it's up to the preoson making a claim to the posotive to prove their case. 🙂

Wolverine has a killer death ray that destroys the city. I can't prove he has it.

Can you prove he doesn't? 🙂

Originally posted by steverules
Will spidey was KOed by wolvie when he stabbed him in the abdomen and when wolvie was chucked out of a window he came back in to the building like nothing had happened.

In Marvel knights 13 wolverine broke free of webbing before he did that. webbing that Rogue hasn't been able to break free from. Whats that you say, Rogue didn't have adamantium claws? True but wolverine doesn't have Rogues strength to apply enough pressure to break free of the claws. Plus even if he could cut the webbing, he wouldn't have had the strength to get any leverage from it........

Heard of something called bad writing Will, that's what happened in secret wars.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Again, don't need to. can't prove a negative, that's why it's up to the preoson making a claim to the posotive to prove their case. 🙂

Wolverine has a killer death ray that destroys the city. I can't prove he has it.

Can you prove he doesn't? 🙂

Nope I can't prove it. I know you don't need to prove it but can you prove it? or are you just avoiding the question?

No offence Cresh but Im starting to doubt you can prove it........I have admitted I can't and I think you are just trying to avoid admitting it.

can you prove me wrong? 🙂

Originally posted by soleran30
Yeah and wolverine has 3 metal spikes inbetween those 2 bones not much room for a wooden spike that thick......

AND for the sake of discussion on tendon and ligaments again there are none on his face left none on the orbiculus occuli or orbiculus orris anyway my point is clear that his tendons and ligaments aren't covered in those pictures so must not be anywhere else.

and?

Originally posted by steverules
Heard of something called bad writing Will, that's what happened in secret wars.

so are you admitting that marvel knights 13 was bad writting because if thats the case, the scenario you brought forward, you brought forward knowing it was P.I.S.

It's not bad writing if it helps spiderman guys.

Originally posted by willRules
In Marvel knights 13 wolverine broke free of webbing before he did that. webbing that Rogue hasn't been able to break free from. Whats that you say, Rogue didn't have adamantium claws? True but wolverine doesn't have Rogues strength to apply enough pressure to break free of the claws. Plus even if he could cut the webbing, he wouldn't have had the strength to get any leverage from it........
And Spiderman has a jobber aura that made storm give up and neutrilized Nightcrawlers teleportation from his webbing. 🙄

Aplication of force buddy, you don't need as much pressure to cut something as you do to tear it apart. . that's why people love to use scissors and knives to open things. . .

Originally posted by willRules
so are you admitting that marvel knights 13 was bad writting because if thats the case, the scenario you brought forward, you brought forward knowing it was P.I.S.
Secret wars was bad writing. 🙂 OH you're a tricky one to bait and switch like that. 😉

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
It's not bad writing if it helps spiderman guys.

😂

I admit a lot of spidey stories are bad writing.............

Originally posted by Creshosk
and?

Well you wanted proof that there is no adamantium on tendons and ligaments there you go! NO way there is room for a spike in his hands or arms......my point is Wolverine should be dissasembled by bigger hitters like spiderman and hulk only PIS lets him ever win.

Webbing is sticky so even if it is easier to cut with leverage there is still some physics there because the thicker the sticky material to cut the more resistance it will offer to the blade.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Secret wars was bad writing. 🙂 OH you're a tricky one to bait and switch like that. 😉

LOL ya got me 🙂