Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Creshosk1,019 pages

Originally posted by willRules
Nope I can't prove it. I know you don't need to prove it but can you prove it? or are you just avoiding the question?

No offence Cresh but Im starting to doubt you can prove it........I have admitted I can't and I think you are just trying to avoid admitting it.

can you prove me wrong? 🙂

Shot between his legs. . no bench. 😆

😖hifty: yeah I had that all along and could have proven it at anytime. But I wanted to make it clear to you that it was not my job to do that, I ddidn't NEED to. Since the burden of proof is always on the shoulders of the person making the claim to the posative. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
And Spiderman has a jobber aura that made storm give up and neutrilized Nightcrawlers teleportation from his webbing. 🙄

Aplication of force buddy, you don't need as much pressure to cut something as you do to tear it apart. . that's why people love to use scissors and knives to open things. . .

Oh I agree. Its just heres the area where we go from facts to opinion, and in my opinion wolverine still wouldn't have the strength that much, much stronger characters had yet couldn't break it................

Pretty weak guys. People are trying to come up with the most random examples to prove how Spiderman can beat Wolverine. When I started reading this post I was confused. Wolverine being crucified means Spiderman can beat him... wtf? I had to go back and read who knows how many posts to understand the correlation. What's to stop Wolverine from cutting his face off to breathe anyway? How about punching a hole in his lunch if he needs air that bad.

And finally, the webbing may be as strong as you guys say, but listen to this. It DOESN'T MATTER how strong it is since its bond to Wolverine's face is only as strong as the bond between his skin and muscle under it. Wolverine can literally PEEL the web off his face and only lose some skin.

Originally posted by soleran30
Well you wanted proof that there is no adamantium on tendons and ligaments there you go!
When did I ask for that? 😕

Originally posted by soleran30
NO way there is room for a spike in his hands or arms......my point is Wolverine should be dissasembled by bigger hitters like spiderman and hulk only PIS lets him ever win.
Oh you're still stuck on the molecular bonding thing aren't you. 😛

Originally posted by Creshosk
The thing is, this isn't true, not for Wolverine. In Wolverine: Snikt! his right arm was burned so badly only his adamantium bones remained; guess what? They were still linked together. Wolverine was still able to use his arm (even though he had to hold it with his left hand). If there is cartilage between his bones that can be severed, than it can also be burned away, and obviously thats not the case.

What about New X-Men, E is for Extinction? Nova burned off all the flesh on his right arm, and guess what? the arm bones were still linked together. They didn't collapse or fall off, which is what they would have done had there been connecting ligaments and cartilage.

How about Miller's Wolverine? When Shingen and Logan fight, Shingen aims a sword stroke at Logans' neck; I've been informed that it was later explained (whether by Miller or Claremont, I don't know) that it was an attack that was meant to sever Wolverine's head, by cutting inbetween the connecting bones; but since Wolverine's adamantium reinforces and links those bones, it couldn't cut through.

And lets not forget Blood Hungry.

🙂

Originally posted by willRules
Oh I agree. Its just heres the area where we go from facts to opinion, and in my opinion wolverine still wouldn't have the strength that much, much stronger characters had yet couldn't break it................
That's what the application of force is. You need far less strength because its a much smaller area, some speculate its sharpedned down to the molecule.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Shot between his legs. . no bench. 😆

😖hifty: yeah I had that all along and could have proven it at anytime. But I wanted to make it clear to you that it was not my job to do that, I ddidn't NEED to. Since the burden of proof is always on the shoulders of the person making the claim to the posative. 🙂

🤣 nice

Originally posted by Creshosk

Shot between his legs. . no bench. 😆

😖hifty: yeah I had that all along and could have proven it at anytime. But I wanted to make it clear to you that it was not my job to do that, I ddidn't NEED to. Since the burden of proof is always on the shoulders of the person making the claim to the posative. 🙂

😂

ok I see there was no bench now. And like I have already said, I have admitted that I couldn't prove it, it was just that you were avoiding answering my question for so long that I thought you were avoiding it......lol

so I have no idea as to how he survived for so long without the wooden bench, perhaps his healing was involved somehow.........I still think suffocation by webbing will still knock him out or possibly kill him.........

Originally posted by Creshosk
When did I ask for that? 😕

Oh you're still stuck on the molecular bonding thing aren't you. 😛

🙂

Nope just illustrating why if spiderman wanted to pull him apart limb from limb well his ligaments and tendons cannot hold him together..........

And on the writers its comical to realize anatomical guys they aren't as illustrated by your picture so do you believe the actual comic or some writer in aftermath?

So back to my point about spiderman he should destroy wolverine simply from ranged attacks from blocking airways to tieing him up in webbing, slowing him down then just whacking him and tearing him apart.

Originally posted by willRules
😂

ok I see there was no bench now. And like I have already said, I have admitted that I couldn't prove it, it was just that you were avoiding answering my question for so long that I thought you were avoiding it......lol

so I have no idea as to how he survived for so long without the wooden bench, perhaps his healing was involved somehow.........I still think suffocation by webbing will still knock him out or possibly kill him.........

Which brings us back to this, he survived for three days with his healing factor sustaining him. Certainly he could go for two hours?

Suffocating is not an option, next.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Which brings us back to this, he survived for three days with his healing factor sustaining him. Certainly he could go for two hours?

I don't know, Im not the best judge as for how long people lasted. jesus lasted a few hours. Im sure that some people have lasted days (but like I said can't prove this one as I don't own the book I read it in....)

Wow its quite an interesting topic don't you think??

has anyone ever tried to drown wolvie??? if so what was the longest he held his breath?

Originally posted by soleran30
Nope just illustrating why if spiderman wanted to pull him apart limb from limb well his ligaments and tendons cannot hold him together..........

And on the writers its comical to realize anatomical guys they aren't as illustrated by your picture so do you believe the actual comic or some writer in aftermath?

IT's one of those things you learn to deal with, Like Spiderman grabbing the webbing with his hand, and then letting go of it, when this same webbing holds guys stronger than spiderman. The invisible woman turns invisible but she can still see despite her retinas being invisible. Bricks with tons and tons of srength, htting each other and not orbiting anyone. Cyclops ignoring the third law of motion with his beams of concussive light, The winged characters not haveing massive massive pectorial muscles to sustain their weeight to fly.

Just have to live with it as its part of the character.

Originally posted by soleran30
So back to my point about spiderman he should destroy wolverine simply from ranged attacks from blocking airways to tieing him up in webbing, slowing him down then just whacking him and tearing him apart.
Yeah I don't see suffocation as working, nor "whacking" him. . .

Originally posted by scotsmn
Suffocating is not an option, next.

Who said suffocate him? I mean just shoot his mouth and nose and when he goes to pull it off shoot his hands to his face.........lol Who cares if spiderman even whacks him he can rip him apart fine or ring out him!

Oh man even after showing you with your own pictures you just deny that Wolverine has the weakness's as shown by your pictures......

I am still curious as to how they got WOODEN spikes in his hands! No way where they were placed same with his legs.....anyway Spiderman has a significant advantage from range of attacks without getting injured where as wolverine has to get in swing distance of claws.

Originally posted by willRules
I don't know, Im not the best judge as for how long people lasted. jesus lasted a few hours. Im sure that some people have lasted days (but like I said can't prove this one as I don't own the book I read it in....)

Wow its quite an interesting topic don't you think??

That's why I love this debate. One you hit the right points and ask the right questions there's no telling what will be discussed.Like what you said earlier about the romans and their torture methods, weird how they discovered it. . the french and the guilotine, the inventor prvoed that a person could liove for several seconds after decapitation, as he blinked something like thirty seconds after he was decapitated.

How do you discover these things?

Originally posted by Creshosk
IT's one of those things you learn to deal with, Like Spiderman grabbing the webbing with his hand, and then letting go of it, when this same webbing holds guys stronger than spiderman. The invisible woman turns invisible but she can still see despite her retinas being invisible. Bricks with tons and tons of srength, htting each other and not orbiting anyone. Cyclops ignoring the third law of motion with his beams of concussive light, The winged characters not haveing massive massive pectorial muscles to sustain their weeight to fly.

Yeah i read that if a spider was the size of a human it would fall over sideways and then suffocate. This is because of the huge exoskeleton it has wouldn't help its balance and would slowly crush it..............

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's why I love this debate. One you hit the right points and ask the right questions there's no telling what will be discussed.Like what you said earlier about the romans and their torture methods, weird how they discovered it. . the french and the guilotine, the inventor prvoed that a person could liove for several seconds after decapitation, as he blinked something like thirty seconds after he was decapitated.

How do you discover these things?

Yeah heard from someone about the gullotine one recently. Its weird yet interesting.

The last person the gullotine was used on was a French criminal in the early 70's I believe ( i might have the date wrong). The ironic thing was that this crimanal was already missing a leg 😂

Originally posted by willRules
Yeah i read that if a spider was the size of a human it would fall over sideways and then suffocate. This is because of the huge exoskeleton it has wouldn't help its balance and would slowly crush it..............
and the pumping motion, since they don't have hearts that's how they make the blood flow. . . lol, you can see why Spiderman and Wolverine are two of my favoreties. . . I mean sure you have oddidties like the fantastic four and the same radiation resulting in different powers. . or gamma radiation resulting in different powers be it a hulk or a sasquatch.

Like on Aqua teens an episode where the mooninites tried to get someone to cash their "check" for them and it was emiting radiation.

Frylock: IT's emmiting radiation?
Shake: The good kind that results in spiders giving you superpowers?
Frylock: no the bad kind where you loose a kidney.

Originally posted by willRules
Yeah heard from someone about the gullotine one recently. Its weird yet interesting.

The last person the gullotine was used on was a French criminal in the early 70's I believe ( i might have the date wrong). The ironic thing was that this crimanal was already missing a leg 😂

😂 that is funny.

Originally posted by Creshosk
and the pumping motion, since they don't have hearts that's how they make the blood flow. . . lol, you can see why Spiderman and Wolverine are two of my favoreties. . . I mean sure you have oddidties like the fantastic four and the same radiation resulting in different powers. . or gamma radiation resulting in different powers be it a hulk or a sasquatch.

Like on Aqua teens an episode where the mooninites tried to get someone to cash their "check" for them and it was emiting radiation.

Frylock: IT's emmiting radiation?
Shake: The good kind that results in spiders giving you superpowers?
Frylock: no the bad kind where you loose a kidney.

Because we can agree on one thing AQUA TEENS rule adult cartoons! Did they make a comic book of that because I don't think any hero could beat them I mean an igloo made of meat! Shake with his super shake squirt lol .....