Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by willRules1,019 pages
Originally posted by Creshosk
Grasping at straws there, seriously. I thought you understood what crucifixtion was. So I fail to see how air was getting into his lungs when he was suffocating on the cross. 🙄.

Cresh they are only suffocating when they don't hold themselves up. This requires great effort, so they can't hold themselves up all the time and they tire and die. They can still get air to their lungs when they hold themselves up. Filling airways with webbing means no air gets to the lungs immediately.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Webbing wouldn't work. if you try to reapply it over the old stuff the old stuff would shield out the new stuff from being applied as effeciently.

NO Cresh, that is grasping at straws...........

How does spidey get Logan on the cross to begin with? When Wolverine was crusified he was beatin to near death by Lady Deathstrike, Pierce and the Reavers. How is Spidey going to do that without getting himself killed. And keep in mind as easily as you say he dodges and strikes him then webs him up I could say Wolvey dodges the hit or the webs. it seems that this argument is rather a post-fight not the fight itself.

Originally posted by willRules
Cresh they are only suffocating when they don't hold themselves up. This requires great effort, so they can't hold themselves up all the time and they tire and die. They can still get air to their lungs when they hold themselves up. Filling airways with webbing means no air gets to the lungs immediately.
How do you hold yourself up when you're unconcious? 🙄

Originally posted by willRules
NO Cresh, that is grasping at straws...........
Hardly. by creating a cacoon around him you'd slowly bubble out. The only way to get the new webbing in the exact place as the old webbing would be to put it where the old stuff is, not over the top.

Who said there was going to be an actual cross? Trains of thought pease.

Webs are faster AND spread more than something small and thin.

@xerxes

Well, the main thing behind this argument is the suffocation, right. Well in order for this webbing idea to work it would have to be similar in physical structure. the reason why it causes affixiation is due to the weight distribution on the body of whomever is in said position. it wouldn't work as well if it were a wall, lightpost or something....it also takes a long time for this type of exuahstion to occur in normal humans. As for the whole webs are faser thing.......I'll give you a can of silly string and I'll come at you with bowie knives.....see if you can cover my face or wrists by the time I gut you.

Originally posted by XerxesLogan
How does spidey get Logan on the cross to begin with? When Wolverine was crusified he was beatin to near death by Lady Deathstrike, Pierce and the Reavers. How is Spidey going to do that without getting himself killed. And keep in mind as easily as you say he dodges and strikes him then webs him up I could say Wolvey dodges the hit or the webs. it seems that this argument is rather a post-fight not the fight itself.

I never said that Spidey would put Logan on the cross. me and cresh were discussing if we think it is possible if wolverine can be suffocated by webbing when once he survived being on a cross........

Originally posted by Creshosk
How do you hold yourself up when you're unconcious? 🙄

how do you know he's unconcious? after a while he will tire out and lose conciousness granted, but not as soon as he is up on the cross. If spidey webs up his airways, he won't immediately become unconcious but he will after a matter of seconds, and eventually he will die......

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hardly. by creating a cacoon around him you'd slowly bubble out. The only way to get the new webbing in the exact place as the old webbing would be to put it where the old stuff is, not over the top.

thats only if

1. he covers his whole body, not just Logans hands and head.
2. Logan can survive for about an hour without air.

If you try to crucify Blob he'll break the cross and pound your face.

Oh, and Wolverine wins this.

Originally posted by The_Blob
If you try to crucify Blob he'll break the cross and pound your face.

Oh, and Wolverine wins this.

😕

ahhh sorry...I misinterperated what was going on

ah god the blob dude is here?

Originally posted by XerxesLogan
As for the whole webs are faser thing.......I'll give you a can of silly string and I'll come at you with bowie knives.....see if you can cover my face or wrists by the time I gut you.

well

1. you get to compare wolvies claws to proper blades whereas spidey gets silly string for web
2. You won't be able to get the knives anywhere near your opponent and you'll get absoloutely covered in silly string if your opponent has spidey's speed and you have wolverine's speed

Originally posted by XerxesLogan
ahhh sorry...I misinterperated what was going on

oh no probs

Originally posted by XerxesLogan
Well, the main thing behind this argument is the suffocation, right. Well in order for this webbing idea to work it would have to be similar in physical structure. the reason why it causes affixiation is due to the weight distribution on the body of whomever is in said position. it wouldn't work as well if it were a wall, lightpost or something....it also takes a long time for this type of exuahstion to occur in normal humans. As for the whole webs are faser thing.......I'll give you a can of silly string and I'll come at you with bowie knives.....see if you can cover my face or wrists by the time I gut you.
120,000 lbs per square meter silly string that has held the likes of rhino and bridges, and moves absurdly fast?

I disagree....the webs are fast (the reason I used silly string is it is the closest reality counterpart i could think of) but I think that Logan could at least reach Spidey before it totally engulkfed him there for interupting the flow.....then logan would tear it off and prolly avoid the webs from there on out.....I thing in this confrentation the webs are more of a secondary weapon due to the techniques of the opponent.

Originally posted by willRules
how do you know he's unconcious?
Because Lady deathstrike and the reavers had just beat the shit out of him? And they dragged his unconcious carcass out there and put him ofn the cross when he was laready unconcious?

Originally posted by willRules
after a while he will tire out and lose conciousness granted, but not as soon as he is up on the cross.
He was already that way from his fight.

So his healing factor was already beat up when he spent the three days on the cross, at full health he could probably last much longer. . . 🙂

that is first soft and gooey (at first) and is not going to cover him in 5 seconds.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Because Lady deathstrike and the reavers had just beat the shit out of him? And they dragged his unconcious carcass out there and put him ofn the cross when he was laready unconcious?

He was already that way from his fight.

So his healing factor was already beat up when he spent the three days on the cross, at full health he could probably last much longer. . . 🙂

oh I wasn't referring to that specific situation. Sorry I wasn't clear. I was just saying in comparison, if you stuck Normal Logan on a cross, then with another normal Logan, you shoved webbing down his airway. Cross logan dies slowly over a few days whereas webbing Logan dies in a matter of seconds.................

spidey doesn't have a cross in this fight (lol) but he does get webbing........

Originally posted by willRules
oh I wasn't referring to that specific situation. Sorry I wasn't clear. I was just saying in comparison, if you stuck Normal Logan on a cross, then with another normal Logan, you shoved webbing down his airway. Cross logan dies slowly over a few days whereas webbing Logan dies in a matter of seconds.................

spidey doesn't have a cross in this fight (lol) but he does get webbing........

Why would he die in seconds if he went days without oxygen relying on an already taxed out healing factor?

Yeah, not going to happen.

Originally posted by XerxesLogan
I disagree....the webs are fast (the reason I used silly string is it is the closest reality counterpart i could think of) but I think that Logan could at least reach Spidey before it totally engulkfed him there for interupting the flow.....then logan would tear it off and prolly avoid the webs from there on out.....I thing in this confrentation the webs are more of a secondary weapon due to the techniques of the opponent.
Hmm, nah he can dodge and shoot, its not something you simply "swipe" off, with no leverage he is a done deal...

Everyone starting from now need to grow up. Enough with the insults.