Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Creshosk1,019 pages

Originally posted by Dizzle
Hey, Hulk tore Wolverine in half in Ultimates. Neither are as good in Ultimates, but Wovlerine DOES have an adamantium skeleton there. Which is pretty good evidence to prove that it can indeed be separated with enough strain on the joints...
One non-canon feat discounts all the canon evidence? ❌

I'm sorry but the ultimates is NOT the 616 universe. there are several occurances where had you been correct wolverine would already be dead or have lost limbs. Since he hasn't in either case you are sadly mistaken.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Anyhoo, suffocation and avoidance is a very feasible option. Spiderman has lots of webs. Once his mouth and nose are covered, if Spiderman just jumps away (or puts distance between them through some other tactic) and fires webbing on his arms, Wolverine is probly gonna end up choking to death.[/]b
I'm sorry but once again there is no evidence to usupport such a claim, and their is evidence that goes against such a claim. Once again you are sadly mistaken.

Originally posted by Dizzle
[B] There's a lot of webbing involved ways for Spiderman to win, and since Logan lacks range, he really has no way to counter them.
And yet no one has posted a method that has supportive evidence. . . Strange that.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Which is why I stick with my Spiderman 7/10.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree, I've seen nothing to support this sort of claim either. 🙁

The fact is, Wolverine's bring claws to a web-shooter fight.

Regardless of arguements about their fighting abilitys, there is no visable reason Spiderman can't just pout on enough web to soffocate him.

I'm not saying it was bad writing, I'm saying the character was wrong.

Which means the writer was wrong, which means that many thing could have been wrong in that fight.

Too bad the educated logical person knows that the evidence is not in your favor.

There is nothing to support the claim that Spiderman could succeed in this endevour. And there is strong evidence against such a claim.


Where's the evidence that he can't?

Spiderman can weave a cacoon in a half second, webbing up Logan's mouth and nose is nothing.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
The fact is, Wolverine's bring claws to a web-shooter fight.

Regardless of arguements about their fighting abilitys, there is no visable reason Spiderman can't just pout on enough web to soffocate him.

Actually there's no evidence to support the reasoning that he can, seeing as how Wolverine lasted for days on the cross after already haveing taken a beating. His healing factor sustained him when he couldn't breath normally.

If three days on a cross after his healing factor was already beatin pretty badly failed, why would webs that disolve in two hours succeed?

That's like saying a match will succeed to do what being thrown into a giant celestial nuclear furnace failed to do.

Illogical.

Originally posted by long pig
Which means the writer was wrong,
Hardly, that's a nonsequite , slippery slope argument. The writer could have had his reasons.

Originally posted by long pig
which means that many thing could have been wrong in that fight.
Or nothing was and you're grasping at straws to get it discarded.

Originally posted by long pig
Where's the evidence that he can't?[/]b/[]quote] Already been covered in this thread.

[QUOTE=5421353]Originally posted by long pig
[B]Spiderman can weave a cacoon in a half second, webbing up Logan's mouth and nose is nothing.

And that will succeed and enraging wolverine, and nothing more.

Your claims are quite illogical.

I need to point out how illigical wolverine's healing factor doing **** without basic materals for motabolism is.

Anyway, Spiderman can just drop him into the river. Two hours without breathing should give him permenent brain damage.

Another good one would be to throw him into something really hot. I can't see how wolverine's healing factor would help him if he was traped in an inferno, encased in a ball of flamable web no less.

Or (my personal fav) he could encase him, go to avenger's mantion, steal the anti-mutant formula, come back, web him up again, inject him, and snap his neck.

OR we could go the easy way, just webing him neck down, then useing a sharp object to sever his head by rotateing around his head (morbid, but effective).

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
I need to point out how illigical wolverine's healing factor doing **** without basic materals for motabolism is.
😆

No, that would be grasping for straws I'm affraid since Spiderman's webbing does the exact same thing now. And there is no real logical explination for how any of their powers came to be and how they REALLY function in the first place.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Anyway, Spiderman can just drop him into the river.
Ah the enviromental argument again. Wonderful, So when did Spiderman gain the ability to generate rivers?

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Two hours without breathing should give him permenent brain damage.
Two hours of something will accomplish something three days did not? ❌

That's illogical.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Another good one would be to throw him into something really hot.[/]b
Something that Spiderman can also spontaneously generate?

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
[B] I can't see how wolverine's healing factor would help him if he was traped in an inferno, encased in a ball of flamable web no less.
Since the Webbing is flame retardant that would be quite a feat. Particularly considering, where is Spiderman going to aquire an inferno?

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Or (my personal fav) he could encase him, go to avenger's mantion, steal the anti-mutant formula, come back, web him up again, inject him, and snap his neck.
Seriously, seriously grasping for that straw. . .

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
OR we could go the easy way, just webing him neck down, then useing a sharp object to sever his head by rotateing around his head (morbid, but effective).
Unfortunatly not. Wolverine's head is not severable outsdie of the destruction of adamantium.

But I love how all of these things just happen to be readily available for Spiderman to use on a whim.

How about if we put Wolverine in a 50 ton adamantium tank?

Or just use Wolverine's city destroying energy blast? Hey if you can make up things to give to spiderman, why can't I? 🙂

I think the problem is both sides are retarded, Cresh.

Wolverine cannot heal within 40 seconds of getting blowing in 2.

Spider-Man will not resort to killing a fellow Avenger. There's no case in where this would happen. Even if he DID, he wouldn't be sloppy enough to hurl him into a river. Spidey would either: try to break his neck(the spinal cord itself is not adamantium), try to knock him out long enough for it to be CONSIDERED a win(i.e web up his mouth and arms. NO, WOLVERINE WILL NOT BREAK OUT. GUYS LIKE VENOM HAVE TROUBLE BREAKING OUT OF THE WEBBING.)

It's not gonna be a 10/10 fight for either of them. It'll probably be dead even. And since it's not to the death, Spideys got a much easier time.

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
I think the problem is both sides are retarded, Cresh.

Wolverine cannot heal within 40 seconds of getting blowing in 2.

Getting blowing in two?

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
Spider-Man will not resort to killing a fellow Avenger. There's no case in where this would happen. Even if he DID, he wouldn't be sloppy enough to hurl him into a river. Spidey would either: try to break his neck(the spinal cord itself is not adamantium),
How exactly would he go about acomplishing that?

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
try to knock him out long enough for it to be CONSIDERED a win(i.e web up his mouth and arms. NO, WOLVERINE WILL NOT BREAK OUT. GUYS LIKE VENOM HAVE TROUBLE BREAKING OUT OF THE WEBBING.)
Wolverine doesn't "break" out, he cuts himself out. Applied force opver a smaller area requires less force, sharp things cut things apart easier than dull things tear things apart.

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
It's not gonna be a 10/10 fight for either of them. It'll probably be dead even. And since it's not to the death, Spideys got a much easier time.
hmm . . .

Last time I checked, Wolverine had something a bit sharper than scissors to cut out of webbing with.

Consider this CRAZY scenario:

Wolverine sidesteps the webs as they fly by, dodges the final squirt by rolling and comes up and plants his blades inside Spiderman's heart.

This has a higher chance of success than pinpoint accuracy webbing completely immobalizing Wolverine and then throwing him into lava... get real.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Also, notice all the Spidey feeling like he's moving in slow motion. HA! Spidey feels like he himself is moving in slo-mo and Wolvie still can't connect until he let's him.
He also says that he FEELS slow. . .

"I'm slow and stupid."

You actually kinda feel sorry for spiderman. 🙁 He's terrified,

"M-Mary Jane"

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hardly, that's a nonsequite , slippery slope argument. The writer could have had his reasons.

Or nothing was and you're grasping at straws to get it discarded.

And that will succeed and enraging wolverine, and nothing more.

Your claims are quite illogical.

Enlighten me, because wolverine was cacooned WHILE beserk... its logical AND its happened.

They live in NY. A quick web sling while carrying the cacoon wil bring him to a river.

ditto for furnace. If nothing else, he could ask stark for somrthing (Ironic, but he won't know what it's for)

And finaly, I can't see how wolverine could heal if every major vein and artery goiong to his head was servered. are you going to tell me he can heal without blood now?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually there's no evidence to support the reasoning that he can, seeing as how Wolverine lasted for days on the cross after already haveing taken a beating. His healing factor sustained him when he couldn't breath normally.

If three days on a cross after his healing factor was already beatin pretty badly failed, why would webs that disolve in two hours succeed?

That's like saying a match will succeed to do what being thrown into a giant celestial nuclear furnace failed to do.

Illogical.

Since we have been through this......(even though the crucifiction doesn't work according to how wolverine's skeleton is put together) HE spent 3 days on a cross with a low supply of oxygen....raise your head grab a breathe drop your head down........BIG difference then someone jamming your mouth and nose full of sticky material that has the tenstile strength of steel and expecect any oxygen to get through when they keep putting it down you.

Omg i heard them using ultimate again, and imply that Spiderman is stronger than the hulk in ultimate..w/e

I just find it funny... how spiderman has to win with an abundance of walls, cars, water, or whatever else in the area.. but beating wolverine with such isn't winning by a plot device...

spiderman can web wolverine up freely, despite there being 5 pieces of evidence that go against that claim and absolutely NO evidence there to support it....

the possibilities that spiderman suffocates wolverine are actually HIGHER to spidey fans around here.. rather than the possibility that logan gets in one well placed hit... just ONE....

every time wolverine has "beaten" spiderman, spiderman's been holding back and wolverine hasn't... IN SPITE of EVIDENCE to the contrary...

yeah... it's the wolvi fans/supporters that are contradictory here.... riiiiight 🙄

Originally posted by soleran30
Since we have been through this......(even though the crucifiction doesn't work according to how wolverine's skeleton is put together) HE spent 3 days on a cross with a low supply of oxygen....raise your head grab a breathe drop your head down........BIG difference then someone jamming your mouth and nose full of sticky material that has the tenstile strength of steel and expecect any oxygen to get through when they keep putting it down you.

wolverine will freely LET spiderman do this too.. mouth wide open and everything...... 🙄

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Omg i heard them using ultimate again, and imply that Spiderman is stronger than the hulk in ultimate..w/e

doh

wolverine has offed spiderman in to alternate realities.. when you bring that up... "it doesn't count" but friggin HULK does something to wolverine in ultimates and you'd think it was canon material by the way these jackasses are ranting about it.

Originally posted by jinzin
I just find it funny... how spiderman has to win with an abundance of walls, cars, water, or whatever else in the area.. but beating wolverine with such isn't winning by a plot device...

spiderman can web wolverine up freely, despite there being 5 pieces of evidence that go against that claim and absolutely NO evidence there to support it....

the possibilities that spiderman suffocates wolverine are actually HIGHER to spidey fans around here.. rather than the possibility that logan gets in one well placed hit... just ONE....

every time wolverine has "beaten" spiderman, spiderman's been holding back and wolverine hasn't... IN SPITE of EVIDENCE to the contrary...

yeah... it's the wolvi fans/supporters that are contradictory here.... riiiiight 🙄

Whats the logical reason that none of this can happen, but spiderman gets tired as wolverine will jump stories right into the air?

Right...

C Master!!! Where've you been??? 😱