Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Whats the logical reason that none of this can happen, but spiderman gets tired as wolverine will jump stories right into the air?Right...
and to top it all off.....
now 😱
spiderman doesn't get tired.... doh
the wolverine jumping stories into the air thing.. yeah aside from the fact that I already explained that... there is AT LEAST multitudes of evidence to support it, not one or two showings but nearly a dozen....
how much evidence is there that supports that spiderman can beat wolverine?
ummmm well there was that secret wars thing... 😕
to which spiderman batted logan away and then logan got RIGHT BACK UP.. no sweat.. so that's not really any victory of ANY sort....
in conclusion how much evidence is there again? oh yeah that's right.. NONE.
Originally posted by soleran30
Well Firelord went down to Spiderman so did the Hulk! Yeah now thats a high showing and blasts Wolverine🙂
doh
spiderman beat both characters.... get ready for it...
😱
WITH
PLOT DEVICES....
but uggghhhh doh
we've already been down this road in terms of PIS showings wolverine's are better...
wolverine>>>thanos...
wolverine>>>hulk
wolverine>>>hercules (who happens to be)>>>firelord
in terms of direct comparisons...
wolverine>>>spiderman
that's why people keep trying to deviate from comic book evidence... cause none of it bodes well for spiderman.....
ok first off you just made the claim that wolverine can dodge bullets hundreds at a time....
I'm going to assume you meant spiderman....
wolverine has a pretty impressive amount of agility which has fooled onlookers into thinking he WAS spiderman, he fooled hydra into thinking he was beast using agility, he kept up with toad while using agility....
in any case the fight is so close that it simply won't come down to agility since agility is a more defensive advantage rather than offensive...
spidey dodges bullets.. wolverine dodges bullets so what?
again your argument comes down to direct comparison which has PROVEN to be AGAINST spiderman's favor...
swing and a miss...
Originally posted by kgkg
where is this battle takin place?
that's been a huge problem for the thread..
I always assume these battles to take place arena stlye or in the middle of bum-**** nowhere unless otherwise stated.. but because people think that that puts spiderman literally at a disadvantage by taking him off homefield people keep trying to sway the debating back into an urban setting..
Originally posted by willRules
If spidey webs up his airways, he won't immediately become unconcious but he will after a matter of seconds, and eventually he will die......
Originally posted by Creshosk
Why would he die in seconds if he went days without oxygen relying on an already taxed out healing factor?
Originally posted by jinzin
and in the past spiderman has lost more than 75% of the time... how does that help your argument? 😕
And before you show us another very carefully selected picture that has to prove that Wolverine was winning : no thanks. Most people here know the fights.
Originally posted by The_Blob
Wrong he would own the little spider. Wolverine has gone toe-to-toe with Blob and held his own sorta so he could kill Spiderman no sweat.
Originally posted by long pig
I can end this debate right now. In a city setting, Spiderman wins 7-8/10
There.
They only can fight in the desert, at the North Pole or in space.
Originally posted by Creshosk
There is nothing to support the claim that Spiderman could succeed in this endevour. And there is strong evidence against such a claim. 🙂
Originally posted by Long Pig
Well, Cresh...you can't pick and choose to keep what parts of a fight you like and discard parts you dislike. If you're saying that Wolverine talking about getting his neck broke is bad writing, then you have to discount the whole fight as bad writing, seeing the writer OBVIOUSLY didn't know the extent of the character's ability.I vote that the fight is too full of errors to be canon.
Full of mistakes.
Originally posted by jinzin
that's been a huge problem for the thread..I always assume these battles to take place arena stlye or in the middle of bum-**** nowhere unless otherwise stated.. but because people think that that puts spiderman literally at a disadvantage by taking him off homefield people keep trying to sway the debating back into an urban setting..
i think Spider-man wins if there are lots of objects etc (like in a city)
but if it's battle with using nothing but fighting each other than Wov whould win more often than not.
In comics they are pretty much seen as equal
is Spider-man Stonger and Faster than Wov?
Its same old, same old with all screenshots from wolverine supporters, they bring the screen shots where wolverine is hitting spider-man, yet they leave out the part where spider-man is beating on wolverine. Such as the recent stabbing incident, as i have just read it, which shouldnt have happend. Why? well Spider-man webbed wolverine up in such a way he couldnt use his claws, and wolverine tore the webbing off the wall, I am sorry but there should be no way wolverine could do that. And people also leave out the part where spider-man is kicking the crap outof him, after being stabbed, and loosing blood. and wolverine is curled up in a ball saying things like "god that hurts". Sure ultimatly he lost because of bloodloss but its the fact that people say spider-man can't even effect wolverine.
Then the other fight is that stupid wolverine vs Spider-man fight.
I mean that writer clearly knew nothing about the webswinger,
scared of wolverine...yeah sure,
didnt use his webbing...Spider-man always uses his webbing,
Spider-man being afraid of gun fire.... WTF! he dodges t all the time,
spider-man being tired after a what 2 minuit fight?...please that is so crap.
At least he got wolverines character right.
The only fight I take remotly seriosly was the rooftop fight, and thats only because wolverine didnt break out of webbing, or spider-man wasnt terrified of wolverine.
As i have said before, Wolverine is a better fighter and a better healer, that is it. Spider-man tops him on everything eles. And as i have said before Spider-man can just suffocate him with his web how he almost did with Blob,( lucky for him he gave him something to breath through).
I'v seen fights where Spider-man has thrown Mr. Hyde through about 10 walls and out of a skyscraper, thats not the kind of thing wolverine would get straight back up from, he would be on the ground long enough for Spider-man to web him up. And yes Spider-man would be able to grap him.
And if he was realy evil whats to say Spider-man can't grap Logan's hands and use them to stab Logan with, because strength wise wolverine can't put even a remotly decnt fight against that, especialy if he has his feet webbed to the floor or something.
But with wolverine supporters its always the same old... he did better in the fights, hes beaten roughhouse without claws (yeah like that should have happend) he's hurt the hulk without claws (spider-man only justs manages to do that) he can heal from anything spider-man throws at him, if spider-man was being brutal he could overload his healing factor. He has better stamina, true but spider-man has fought for days on end also.
Now can someone give me a way wolverine could beat spider-man instead of "1 slash and its all over" bearing in mind he shouldnt be able to touch spider-man if he is in peak form and its good writing. So please a good stratagy for wolverine to beat Spider-man please.
Originally posted by Sparkz
I mean that writer clearly knew nothing about the webswinger,
scared of wolverine...yeah sure,didnt use his webbing...Spider-man always uses his webbing,
Spider-man being afraid of gun fire.... WTF! he dodges t all the time,
spider-man being tired after a what 2 minuit fight?...please that is so crap.
😉
Originally posted by kgkgBy LEAPS and BOUNDS.
ohhhhhi think Spider-man wins if there are lots of objects etc (like in a city)
but if it's battle with using nothing but fighting each other than Wov whould win more often than not.
In comics they are pretty much seen as equal
is Spider-man Stonger and Faster than Wov?
Originally posted by who?-kidSpider-Man has NEVER lost a Wolverine fight.
okay you're basically making an argument that equates to "spiderman wouldn't get downed by a fistful of claws to the face"
and I guess you forgot a certain encounter that ended up with spidey on the floor and wolverine talking trash...
Why can't Spidermanweb up wolverine again?
And I think puting them in an arena is unfair, since plenty of charaters that are better would lose there, since it's a pain in the ass to kill him.
between his healing factor and skeleton, even if he was fighting hulk, acording to you, there's no way he could kill him, since he can't dismbmember him thanks to his skeleton, and his healing factor heals any blows.
Originally posted by jinzin
okay you're basically making an argument that equates to "spiderman wouldn't get downed by a fistful of claws to the face"and I guess you forgot a certain encounter that ended up with spidey on the floor and wolverine talking trash...
And Wolverine talking trash ? Yeah, he was pretty cool when he said "Hmmpf, stop it, I know I deserve it but aargh, God that hurt !"
Originally posted by jinzin
okay you're basically making an argument that equates to "spiderman wouldn't get downed by a fistful of claws to the face"and I guess you forgot a certain encounter that ended up with spidey on the floor and wolverine talking trash...
he didnt say any of the sort you are so putting words in his mouth. He said Spider-man has never lost to Wolverine not, yep spider-man can survive multiple stabs to the face. Shees its no wonder this thread has lasted so long with confusion from posts such as this.