Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Ah. Now we get to the hypocrocy that is wolverine. Anyone who's power dosen't let them kill him can't win, despite the fact many have beaten them before.Here's a question, how does Wolverine beat deadpool? They both have their healing facctors, they would fight forever in the middle of nowhere.
And people who could beat him, hulk, juggs, and all the rest, don't win beacuse they can't kill him.
people like hulk and juggs have been able to KO him... spiderman HAS NEVER Koed him.. that's the difference.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
"Better go easy on him"Does THAT sound like trying your hardest?
does wolverine punching spiderman in the face with claws sheathed sound like he was trying his hardest?
and spiderman "going easy on him" was still punching through metal pipes and brick chimneys... yeah he was really holding back a ton for wolvie saftey... 🙄
though this certainly asserts how you were just talking out your ass again..
you've misdirected the original point which was you saying that spiderman claimed he didn't want to fight.. obviously he DID want to fight since he started it.. damn....
Originally posted by jinzin
wolive gets right back up and comes walking back like it's nothing
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wolverne wasn't fighting back... didn't have his claws out and GOT OUT WHEN HE WANTED TO...
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wolverine stands right back up....wolverine STILL 1! parker STILL 0!
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(Jinzin : A little bit biased, but not a bad debater ;-) )
Originally posted by CreshoskWTF dude. You can put "=" signs all you want, I'm just saying you didn't quote what I said. You didn't. Period. You were mistaken. You didn't catch me in anything. I'm also not saying Spideys panicing increased his speed. I'm saying the exact opposite. I'm saying he was moving slower and that he was STILL faster than Wolvie. Spidey didn't say anything about slo-mo events. He's the only thing moving slower than usual to him. That shadow pic(I'm afraid to be killed by a madman) dosen't involve Spidey dodging dude. He's clearly throwing a punch and it looks like he's knocking Spit or blood out of Wolvie's mouth. We see that and in the next panel, Wolvie's on the ground. What were you looking @? In the "here it comes" pic, the claws are clearly positioned in front of Wolvie, not on his side. Also, are you saying Berserker Wolvie's faster than normal Spidey?
Too much oppen for interpritation, To me it looks like Wolverine lunging and Spiderman dodging again.By that logic Wolverine hit Spiderman just before he tries a donkey kick. 🙄
The side of the face. . right where his claws are. . . 🙄
Hardly, Wolivie is clearly blocking, and then Spiderman magicly hits him through the claws. . .
Hype, Notice how he's also panicing? YEah people often feel like events are moving in slow motion during times of panic. 🙄
Because he's panicing.
YEah Spiderman panicing is a great boost for his speed, but Wolvie beserker isn't. 🙄
"Wolverine never hit" = "I remember him missing 100% of the time"
"How fun would the fight be if it was just Wolvie swinging and missing" = "Wolvie never hitting would be boring"
I love how whenever I catch something the other person furiously denies it. 🙄
Why can't anyone own up to their mistakes? They always have to draw it out.
Originally posted by jinzinDid I say wolverine was trying his HARDEST, he would have to try harder to match spiderman's speed, strength, and reaction time, as he doesn't have 20x reflexes, 15x speed, and agility than a healthy person.
does wolverine punching spiderman in the face with claws sheathed sound like he was trying his hardest?and spiderman "going easy on him" was still punching through metal pipes and brick chimneys... yeah he was really holding back a ton for wolvie saftey... 🙄
though this certainly asserts how you were just talking out your ass again..
you've misdirected the original point which was you saying that spiderman claimed he didn't want to fight.. obviously he DID want to fight since he started it.. damn....
Logic please...
Originally posted by who?-kidWell, Spider-Man sure did surprise him, and you don't know how much it hurt him, because no pic was shown of Wolverine hitting the ground, or lying there somewhere.
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as soon as wolverine hit the ground he got right back up.. he's back up in tony's office before they even finish a short conversation at no point is it apperant that wolverine was incapacitated in any way for any length of time.
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Originally posted by who?-kid
Of course he wanted to lol. Wasn't easy for him, you know it, I know it. It hurt him, and it took time.wolverine 1 parker 2[/B]
again.. spiderman webbed him up in the middle of a conversation... if wolverine stabbed spiderman from behind or in the middle of a conversation it wouldn't be a win for wolverine cause there was no equal level of hostility towards one another... and again, wolive got out when he wanted doesn't matter if it hurt him cause he heals real fast or haven't you noticed...
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Originally posted by who?-kidcause has soon as he hit the ground he got right back up by the next panal and he was talking to his fellow x-men like it was no big deal.. which it wasn't.
And says something like :"Good thing he left, he sure beat our ass"wolverine 1 parker 3
(Jinzin : A little bit biased, but not a bad debater ;-) ) [/B]
at no point does wolverine hint at any evidence to support the idea that he was hurt or incapacitated in any way for any amount of time he got knocked down and he got right back up end of story..
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and he said they were humiliated and they were.. but hardly beaten....
Originally posted by jinzinI've never said Wolvie was trying his hardest. Has anybody? He wasn't. It's obvious that Spidey wasn't either because he thought of holding back and because he rarely cuts loose. Neither was going all out. Seriously guys, Spidey f**ks up property @ less than 1/2 strength. Way less. I've got an annual where H.Osborn keeps f**king w/Peter. And then a pissed Peter punches a piece out of a chimney. Breaking chimneys = very easy for one who can lift 10 tons and even easier for one who can do 15.
does wolverine punching spiderman in the face with claws sheathed sound like he was trying his hardest?and spiderman "going easy on him" was still punching through metal pipes and brick chimneys... yeah he was really holding back a ton for wolvie saftey... 🙄
though this certainly asserts how you were just talking out your ass again..
you've misdirected the original point which was you saying that spiderman claimed he didn't want to fight.. obviously he DID want to fight since he started it.. damn....
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Did I say wolverine was trying his HARDEST, he would have to try harder to match spiderman's speed, strength, and reaction time, as he doesn't have 20x reflexes, 15x speed, and agility than a healthy person.Logic please...
dude he wasn't trying in the example you're using and his speed reaction time as working just fine..
your on a completely different topic right now...
you said spiderman said he didn't want to fight..
spidey didn't say that anywhere.
then you change your argument into it being that he wasn't trying his hardest....
to which my reply is "so what" wolverine didn't try his hardest either... what's your damned point..
now your back to debating states that are misleading and incorrect with proof that goes in wolverine's favor in abundance...
so again back to the original point.. where does spiderman say he didn't want to fight? (remember he DID start that fight by the way...) 😉
Originally posted by jinzinDidn't he say he wasn't trying his hardest, and WHEN does spiderman want to fight, ever? Very very rare...
dude he wasn't trying in the example you're using and his speed reaction time as working just fine..your on a completely different topic right now...
you said spiderman said he didn't want to fight..
spidey didn't say that anywhere.then you change your argument into it being that he wasn't trying his hardest....
to which my reply is "so what" wolverine didn't try his hardest either... what's your damned point..
now your back to debating states that are misleading and incorrect with proof that goes in wolverine's favor in abundance...
so again back to the original point.. where does spiderman say he didn't want to fight? (remember he DID start that fight by the way...) 😉