Originally posted by soleran30Again, maybe you'll read it this time, I was NOT reffering to you making those statments.
Tell yeah what Creshosk you go back and requote me and don't add your colorful interpretations and put your dialogue next to mine the only unfortunate thing is you will find only one fanboy........Creshosk its you🙂
Originally posted by leonidasHow does the story in validate the story if the complaint is over the way something was drawn?
<<You're putting such an importance in the art that it completely invalidates the story. How is that not putting more emphesis on the art ?>>or you're putting such an emphasis on the story that you're ignoring the fact that it invalidates the story?
Originally posted by leonidasSo do you get my point?
<<So it should have been drawndifferently so that the escape fit the story better?>>✅
Originally posted by leonidasI'm saying that the art doesn't make it pis. You can't blame PIS on bad art. So don't blame the art.
<<Since the art is supposed to be used to help tell the story.>>and if they contradict? who's to say who is write or wrong. all that can be said definitively is that there was a misrepresentation. are you saying misrepresentation is NOT PIS/CIS?
Originally posted by leonidaslol, Hmm . . .
<<They rarely do, otherwise they'd been more serious about continuity and the like.>.yah. they really should ask me to write the story . . . heheh
Originally posted by leonidasI don't think that the art is important to the story, the story can exist with out the art in the form of a novel, illustrating it shouldn't change the story.
<<Or mis intterpritation on the part of the readers, the geeks who place more emphesis on the art than the story, despite claims to the contrary.>>but to make the claim that we as readers need to look deeper into what the story itself is saying so we ferret out the nonsensical image that is as important to the medium as the story is itself is . . . [/]b]
Originally posted by leonidastake care man.
[B] 😑anyway, 8888 is right. it's pointless and adds not much to the thread (aside from some relatively intelligent conversation) on that note, i take my leave.
as usual, it was fun.
<<How does the story in validate the story if the complaint is over the way something was drawn?>>
damn, i HATE when i mistype. i meant to say you put such an emphasis on story it invalidates the ART.
and strictly speaking, a comic book could NOT exist as a novel. the pictures add a great deal -- in fact, they DEFINE the medium. without the pics, it wouldn't translate into a novel -- at least not a coherent one. there would need to be a much greater level of detail - ie - the story and that scene would have been much more well defined. it wasn't because, as in all comics, much of the story is RENDERED and CONVEYED in the illustrations. pics show the emotions of characters for instance, at least as much as the words do, along with conveying too much additional info (not conveyed in words) to bother even trying to relate. it's why i say in this medium, BOTH (pics AND words) are essential. if you blanked out all the illustrations in a comic, the story would be missing huge parts and some books may be utterly incomprehensible without them while most others would simply be . . . incomplete stories.
to say illos are not essential to a comic book . . . well, i'd say you would almost certainly find yourself in the minority with that particular thought.
ps-just watched stealth (in lieu of war of the worlds) actually not bad . . .
<<*idly waits in the shadows.. to pounce...*>>
yah, i can hear the wheels spinning -- i really like cresh, but i usually get along with leo. whose side do i jump in on, whose side . . .
your brain must feel like that computer in WAR GAMES -- a classic -- that blows up because it is reprogrammed to play and beat itself at tic-tac-toe.
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Obviously more detail would need to be added but thats the way it works the script is produced before the art. Some of the script is adapted as text, someof it is adapted into pictures, the pictures give the artist some leiency. And yes the art isn't as essential to the story. Certianly not so important it invalidates the story like is trying to be forced here.
Sorry, it's not PIS because of the way the Artist drew something, I've said it before and I'll say it again, that's just assinine.
Originally posted by Porsche
Take a look at the picture at the topHow could Spiderman have snapped Wolverine's neck if Spiderman was already dead from that panel? A dead Spiderman wouldn't be able to do jack. Sorry. 😂
This was a good post but unlike the real world pictures don't always tell the whole story.
These pictures make it seem as though Wolverine has the Spider-sense and superhuman physiology and equilibrium.
simply misrepresenting common knowledge.
A web-ball to the face WOULD be followed by hands glued to face.
Fight over.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Next time you feel like speaking know what you're talking about:
Aren't you the one who gets all pissy when people bash you? I say he has "lightspeed reflexes" because he can consciously dodge lasers. Not guess where the guy's gonna fire and move, he dodges them. Lasers being things that move at the speed of light.
Now you turned around and said that I meant that he was dodging by touching them, then reacting. Which is completely untrue, I said he dodges lasers. You put words into my mouth, and then basically told soleran to shut up, with more misleading quotes. I said he has lightspeed reactions, then later explained myself. You give one definition of "lightspeed reactions", which is completely different than mine, and used it against me. Don't appreciate that in the least.
Friggin hypocrite. Whether you have logic or not... That's low.
And should you choose to say this is an attack on you... Self defense isn't murder, now is it?
Originally posted by wolverine8888
ecpt spidermans never been able to do that hmmmm. oh also wolverine is superhuman and has hyper sense allowing him to guess his opponets moves.
Wait, Spiderman can't make web balls? Spiderman can't fire webs? Peter is amazingly accurate with his webs, which is illustrated in his fight with Chance. He also successfully webbed Speed Demon, who moves well beyond mach speeds. Hitting Wolverine isn't really going to be a problem. I'd go as far as to say that getting him in the face wouldn't be much of a problem, but even giving Wolverine the benefit of the doubt, Spiderman hitting him in the arm or leg would be equally as effective. Spiderman wins because of range.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Obviously more detail would need to be added but thats the way it works the script is produced before the art. Some of the script is adapted as text, someof it is adapted into pictures, the pictures give the artist some leiency. And yes the art isn't as essential to the story. Certianly not so important it invalidates the story like is trying to be forced here.Sorry, it's not PIS because of the way the Artist drew something, I've said it before and I'll say it again, that's just assinine.
more assinine than:
<<I don't think that the art is important to the story,>> 😕
it could be fairly said that if all the words were taken away from a comic (and there have been several examples of this very thing in many books) the reader could still follow along with the story quite easily. many nuances would clearly be missed. many nuances would also be missed if the ILLUSTRATIONS were left out. i just don't get how you can say the illustrations are not important in a comicbook. imagine telling THAT to stan lee or anyone in the industry . . .
anyway, answer 2 final questions if you feel inclined and i'll have done:
(1.) based on the illo (i know you don't think it holds weight, humor me) was the character's ability misrepresented? and (1a.) is misrepresentation of a character not the definition of PIS/CIS?