Originally posted by soleran30
whether his hands are hooked under anything or not its grip strength and its NOTHING like lifting over your head or squating..........anyway once again its comics physics and its a single event........
There's still that great white... let's call it 2000lbs for now since that's half of max weight for one. To ONE arm one onto the ship takes more than 2000lbs of force (no corrections on physics terminology please). He had to accelerate it upward AND he had to do it with nothing to stand on! He's AT LEAST in the 2 ton range. AT LEAST!
Originally posted by Porsche
There's still that great white... let's call it 2000lbs for now since that's half of max weight for one. To ONE arm one onto the ship takes more than 2000lbs of force (no corrections on physics terminology please). He had to accelerate it upward AND he had to do it with nothing to stand on! He's AT LEAST in the 2 ton range. AT LEAST!
naw the elevator feats a better one
Originally posted by Porsche
There's still that great white... let's call it 2000lbs for now since that's half of max weight for one. To ONE arm one onto the ship takes more than 2000lbs of force (no corrections on physics terminology please). He had to accelerate it upward AND he had to do it with nothing to stand on! He's AT LEAST in the 2 ton range. AT LEAST!
🙄 you can't use proof against proof if you disagree with both of the proof 🙄
Originally posted by Porsche
There's still that great white... let's call it 2000lbs for now since that's half of max weight for one. To ONE arm one onto the ship takes more than 2000lbs of force (no corrections on physics terminology please). He had to accelerate it upward AND he had to do it with nothing to stand on! He's AT LEAST in the 2 ton range. AT LEAST!
Go back Creshosk handled that and posted everything from wolverine8888's website........and after Creshosk proved a few things it really made wolverine look under 1 ton.
Originally posted by soleran30
It just slays me to watch a comic post and have someone tell me "now that is AT LEAST two tons look at the punch!" yeah uh huh you would be an expert on what it takes to lift that much I am sure you have done it and know first hand..........all speculation🙂
Originally posted by wolverine8888
to throw 1600 pounds with one hand would mean that in to ahnds u could lift at list 1600 + 1600= 32000 also he through it fast and far.
the shark one is simply u would need to know how much prussuse and strength it would take to lift 1350 pounds up ove rur head in water and then throw it in a boat.
Someone has a severe case of Super-Mathematics... 1600+1600=3200, not 32000... And was the dumpster even full? (the scan is a bit hard to see) It's supposed to be 1600 pounds only when full. The majority of that weight would be the contents, not the actual dumpster.
Punching Roughouse isn't really a strength feat... Concrete is about as solid as styrofoam in comics. Plus, it's classic jobbing in Wolverine's general direction. (In their first meeting, Logan almost died...)
The shark's weight is still a bit iffy for me. Simply because no length is given, and guessing at it from pictures would be insanely assinine. 😉 (yes, I mean 😉 😉 😉 )
The elevator is PIS. Even if we accept that he has low end super strength, holding that much weight is WELL beyond even the other feats you've provided.
In general, I have a hard time accepting Wolverine having superstrength to any degree, because there is no reason or explanation for it, period.
😎 Hehehe, assinine. 😎
Originally posted by DizzleYup.
Someone has a severe case of Super-Mathematics... 1600+1600=3200, not 32000... And was the dumpster even full? (the scan is a bit hard to see) It's supposed to be 1600 pounds only when full. The majority of that weight would be the contents, not the actual dumpster.
Originally posted by DizzleMore of roughhouses. . .
Punching Roughouse isn't really a strength feat... Concrete is about as solid as styrofoam in comics. Plus, it's classic jobbing in Wolverine's general direction. (In their first meeting, Logan almost died...)
Originally posted by DizzleStrawmanning?
The shark's weight is still a bit iffy for me. Simply because no length is given, and guessing at it from pictures would be insanely assinine. 😉 (yes, I mean 😉 😉 😉 )
Originally posted by DizzleOther than his cellualr regeneration allowing him to reach Peajk human strength and then bracing on his bones allows him to go up just above peak human?
The elevator is PIS. Even if we accept that he has low end super strength, holding that much weight is WELL beyond even the other feats you've provided.[/]b[/]quote] Actually it's a good argument for his skeleton, since it didn't rip his arms out of socket or anything.[QUOTE=5474388]Originally posted by Dizzle
[B]In general, I have a hard time accepting Wolverine having superstrength to any degree, because there is no reason or explanation for it, period.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Someone has a severe case of Super-Mathematics... 1600+1600=3200, not 32000... And was the dumpster even full? (the scan is a bit hard to see) It's supposed to be 1600 pounds only when full. The majority of that weight would be the contents, not the actual dumpster.Punching Roughouse isn't really a strength feat... Concrete is about as solid as styrofoam in comics. Plus, it's classic jobbing in Wolverine's general direction. (In their first meeting, Logan almost died...)
The shark's weight is still a bit iffy for me. Simply because no length is given, and guessing at it from pictures would be insanely assinine. 😉 (yes, I mean 😉 😉 😉 )
The elevator is PIS. Even if we accept that he has low end super strength, holding that much weight is WELL beyond even the other feats you've provided.
In general, I have a hard time accepting Wolverine having superstrength to any degree, because there is no reason or explanation for it, period.
😎 Hehehe, assinine. 😎
in spite of superhuman strength being one of his described abilities due to mutation? 😕
i still think throwing a dumpster using one armwith a lateral raise is extremely impressive.. far beyond peak human.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yup.More of roughhouses. . .
Strawmanning?
Other than his cellualr regeneration allowing him to reach Peak human strength and then bracing on his bones allows him to go up just above peak human?
Strawmanning? More like pulling a Creshosk. The story obviously called for a 6 foot, 200 pound shark. How it looks is of no consequence. 😉
Yes, just beyond peak human. Not into several tons of lifting power.
And thank you, it was a full dumpster... Why would you draw it the same color as the dumpster though? Art must not be that important to comics...
in spite of superhuman strength being one of his described abilities due to mutation?i still think throwing a dumpster using one armwith a lateral raise is extremely impressive.. far beyond peak human.
Superstrength isn't directly one of his abilities. It's the whole "he heals back torn muscles, so he can build them up extremely quickly". It's his explanation for being right at/slightly above peak human, but nothing more. I don't really have a problem with high end feats of maybe a ton or so of lifting power, but anything way higher than peak human is unexplainable.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Superstrength isn't directly one of his abilities. It's the whole "he heals back torn muscles, so he can build them up extremely quickly". It's his explanation for being right at/slightly above peak human, but nothing more. I don't really have a problem with high end feats of maybe a ton or so of lifting power, but anything way higher than peak human is unexplainable.
unexplainable? 🤨 he's a damned mutant.. how much more explaining is needed?
think about it, he displays feats that are far outside the bounds of what a peak human can do, his stats put him above peak human levels, in the comics they describe him as have "enhanced strength" and/or "superhuman strength".
also consider, him and sabretooth are considerably equivolent in terms of powers and mutations etc... sabretooth has mutated into having immense displays of super strength.. swinging a one ton steel girder with one hand like a baseball bat, and this is back in the 80's, early 90's.... if his mutation involved an aquisition of superior strength, why wouldn't wolverine's... especially when all forms of evidence now suggests to support that notion?
there's no reasoning to think otherwise. you obviously can't prove that something doesn't exist. so why don't you put more effort into proving his limitations?
thus far more evidence supports the argument you oppose than the one you support...
Originally posted by jinzin
unexplainable? 🤨 he's a damned mutant.. how much more explaining is needed?think about it, he displays feats that are far outside the bounds of what a peak human can do, his stats put him above peak human levels, in the comics they describe him as have "enhanced strength" and/or "superhuman strength".
also consider, him and sabretooth are considerably equivolent in terms of powers and mutations etc... sabretooth has mutated into having immense displays of super strength.. swinging a one ton steel girder with one hand like a baseball bat, and this is back in the 80's, early 90's.... if his mutation involved an aquisition of superior strength, why wouldn't wolverine's... especially when all forms of evidence now suggests to support that notion?
there's no reasoning to think otherwise. you obviously can't prove that something doesn't exist. so why don't you put more effort into proving his limitations?
thus far more evidence supports the argument you oppose than the one you support...
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