Cresh. If a person came into this thread and sees this
Originally posted by wolverine8888What are they most likely to think about the outcome of the fight?
also thew funny thing is that picture of wolverine being gunned down is befor 4 up grades lol. how about the time spiderman gets beat by a cyber ninja?
Originally posted by CreshoskI see what you're getting @. But Spidey simply out smarted him. He didn't win because of some outside circumstance or interference. I had a long argument w/Jinzin over Bats Vs Carnage over something like this. What do you consider to be most important in Spidey VS W.Ninja?
I'm sorry I must be in the wrong section, I thought this was the versus board where battles are. . .Do you get what I'm saying? You can't ignore the circumstances of why an outcome came to be.
Originally posted by CreshoskI see what you're trying to say, but the end results of a fight don't exist if they're not fighting. No fight = No winner."the outcome is the most important thing" means that That scene tthe most important thing involved Spiderman passing out and Wolverine was just fine.
It being a fight or training is determined long before the end.
Originally posted by who?-kidSure he was, but again, that's not the end. The end was Spiderman passed out and Wolverine is just fine.
Nice try. He sure wasn't fine when Spider-Man used him as a punching bag. And Wolverine was trying to protect himself until Iron Man decided it was enough.
The end result is the most important thing.
Originally posted by brainchild81the entire thing, the entire fight, not something that favored one side or the other.
I see what you're getting @. But Spidey simply out smarted him. He didn't win because of some outside circumstance or interference.[/b[]/quote] You mean like the bushes and the cliff?[QUOTE=5509213]Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]I had a long argument w/Jinzin over Bats Vs Carnage over something like this. What do you consider to be most important in Spidey VS W.Ninja?
Originally posted by brainchild81Then obviously they were fighting cause the end result is exactly like the end result of a fight.
I see what you're trying to say, but the end results of a fight don't exist if they're not fighting. No fight = No winner.
Wolverine wins if the most important thing is the end result:
Originally posted by CreshoskOK then W888 didn't explain the whole fight. Thank you.
the entire thing, the entire fight, not something that favored one side or the other.
Originally posted by CreshoskNot making sense Cresh. You alright? I walk up to you and put a bullet in your brain. Were we obviously having a gunfight cause the end result is exactly like the end result of a gunfight?Then obviously they were fighting cause the end result is exactly like the end result of a fight.
Originally posted by brainchild81Hey the most important thing is the end result. 🙂
OK then W888 didn't explain the whole fight. Thank you. Not making sense Cresh. You alright? I walk up to you and put a bullet in your brain. Were we obviously having a gunfight cause the end result is exactly like the end result of a gunfight?
You said that yourself. 😛
Originally posted by brainchild81I don't aalways try to make false analogies to distract from the topic. Red herrings are bad mmkay?
Can you answer the question? I always try to answer yours.
The fact that it was a fight was determined before the end.
What you seem to be trying to do now is implicate that it's the end result that matters if it's spiderman, but if its wolverine we have to look at all the circumstances.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThank you. That's what I've been trying to get at.
No its not...
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterAnd if we include pis, then Wolverine stabbed thanos, Thanos beat silver surfer, silver surfer beat Firelord.
Spiderman beating firelord is fine since its the END result of firelord losing.
If you include pis Wolverine has more outstanding feats of PIS/SMvsFL
Originally posted by CreshoskI don't see an answer in there. It only takes a second Cresh. Were we having a gun fight? Were Spidey and Wolvie in a TRAINING SESSION? Would Wolvie go curl up into a ball in a fight?
I don't aalways try to make false analogies to distract from the topic. Red herrings are bad mmkay?The fact that it was a fight was determined before the end.
What you seem to be trying to do now is implicate that it's the end result that matters if it's spiderman, but if its wolverine we have to look at all the circumstances.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterIt's intentionally fallicious to counter an equally fallicious reasoning.
So by that you admit your own example is fallacious?
Mine is fallicious BECAUSE it uses the invalid faulty reasoning.
But I'm not the one that came up with the reasoning.
Originally posted by brainchild81AGAIN, that is a RED HERRING.
I don't see an answer in there. It only takes a second Cresh. Were we having a gun fight? Were Spidey and Wolvie in a TRAINING SESSION? Would Wolvie go curl up into a ball in a fight?
It doesn't matter, none of that matters. the most important thing is the end result. So long as you hold to that flawed notion you trying to get answers from other parts is contradicting yourself.
Weather or not we were having a gun fight, what type of situation it was etc. all occured BEFORE THE END. thus invalidating the "the end is most important." if you try to give them equal importance.
IT DOESN'T MATTER if the reasoning is "The end is most important."
Originally posted by CreshoskDoesn't matter since its fallacy it can't be used... thanks.
It's intentionally fallicious to counter an equally fallicious reasoning.Mine is fallicious BECAUSE it uses the invalid faulty reasoning.
But I'm not the one that came up with the reasoning.
AGAIN, that is a RED HERRING.
It doesn't matter, none of that matters. the most important thing is the end result. So long as you hold to that flawed notion you trying to get answers from other parts is contradicting yourself.
Weather or not we were having a gun fight, what type of situation it was etc. all occured BEFORE THE END. thus invalidating the "the end is most important." if you try to give them equal importance.
IT DOESN'T MATTER if the reasoning is "The end is most important."
Originally posted by CreshoskI took that back a while ago. See?
It doesn't matter, none of that matters. the most important thing is the end result. So long as you hold to that flawed notion you trying to get answers from other parts is contradicting yourself.Weather or not we were having a gun fight, what type of situation it was etc. all occured BEFORE THE END. thus invalidating the "the end is most important." if you try to give them equal importance.
IT DOESN'T MATTER if the reasoning is "The end is most important."
Originally posted by brainchild81
OK then W888 didn't explain the whole fight.