Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Melnorme1,019 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk
You think I care?

You still don't know your material. So you STILL aren't a viable source. Sorry.

Alright. Whatver lets you sleep at night. With your Wolverine plushie. There's a 15% margin that says I do know my source material. So suck it.

Sore loser.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Alright. Whatver lets you sleep at night. With your Wolverine plushie.

Sore loser.

😆

Oh, yes such a wonderful response. Makeing assumptions about the oppositions personal life.

Guess you would have just been laughed off of any formal debate team yourself.

I'would have had to attempt to debate, in order to lose, and I would have to lose to be a sore loser.

You on the other hand have been thourghly beaten and I never even had to attempt to debate with you. So indeed you would be the "sore loser".

Better luck next time. And next time do research on the material before attempting to BS your way through.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'would have had to attempt to debate, in order to lose, and I would have to lose to be a sore loser.

You on the other hand have been thourghly beaten and I never even had to attempt to debate with you. So indeed you would be the "sore loser".

Sure buddy. That and the Democrats won in ought four.

Oh, and try reading my whole post instead of feverishly clicking the reply button, spitting out some typo-laden gainsaying, and thinking you've scored a coup.

I have won. 15% margin. Again, suck it, fanboy.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Sure buddy. That and the Democrats won in ought four.
Nice non-sequiter. 🙄

Originally posted by Melnorme
Oh, and try reading my whole post instead of feverishly clicking the reply button, spitting out some typo-laden gainsaying, and thinking you've scored a coup.
I do read you entire posts, you editing it after I clicked the reply button doesn't mean I haven't.

Originally posted by Melnorme
I have won.
Wishful thinking. . . but again, I would have had to try in order to lose, in order for you to win. However you have tried and failed to dissuade me from my position, so no, you have failed, quite miserably at that.

Have I tried to persuade you to the other side? No. Do I think it's a worthwhile effort?

Well that last bit about fanboys certainly makes it seem like you have a mind like a steel trap, rusted and illegal.

Originally posted by Melnorme
15% margin.
Between your IQ and your shoe size?

Originally posted by Melnorme
Again, suck it, fanboy.
OH, third grade insults, how debate worthy of you.

Yeah I'm the fanboy, when I haven't even stated my position on the matter to you and you're the one giving one of the character 10/10 based on an uninformed premise?

Yeah, if I'm a fanboy I'd hate to think of what you are.

God, debate jargon f***ing rules... This is first class entertainment. This has gone through every possible high class debate strategy within a page, from the old standby of "No, my dad (favorite character) could beat up your dad (favorite character)!" to the always popular "No I win!" to the incomparable "You're stupid!" I'm just waiting for someone to whip out the ultimate, uncounterable... "Your Mom!" Seriously. This is freaking hilarious, cuz Cresh had been the only one who really throws around the terminology, until now. He says "ad hominem" or "strawman" every other post. Seriously chaps, Melnorme, Creshosk, well done. This is up there with "Whirly vs. Never".

On a complete side note, God DAMMIT you sound like an ******* when you're good at arguing.

Now, on to points. Are physics applicable in a comics debate? Spiderman may very well be able to generate more force with his fingers than bullets can. Since Wolverine's skin is NOT bulletproof, Peter could conceivably pull an "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" on him. I doubt even Logan can survive long if his intestines and heart are ripped out.

I still say the webs are dismissed way too casually. Wolverine has means to escape from them, but that does not make his escape instant. A stream of webs can build up on him much faster than he can cut himself free. Eventually, both arms are going to get pinned down, and then it's up to Peter as to how he should go about finishing Logan off. Just smashing Wolverine won't work, but Spiderman is quite the versatile little biatch.

Originally posted by Dizzle
God, debate jargon f***ing rules... This is first class entertainment. This has gone through every possible high class debate strategy within a page, from the old standby of "No, my dad (favorite character) could beat up your dad (favorite character)!" to the always popular "No I win!" to the incomparable "You're stupid!" I'm just waiting for someone to whip out the ultimate, uncounterable... "Your Mom!" Seriously. This is freaking hilarious, cuz Cresh had been the only one who really throws around the terminology, until now. He says "ad hominem" or "strawman" every other post. Seriously chaps, Melnorme, Creshosk, well done. This is up there with "Whirly vs. Never".
That was my intent. . . I kinda picked up that Melnorme would put up an interesting fight if I want through that route.

Originally posted by Dizzle
On a complete side note, God DAMMIT you sound like an ******* when you're good at arguing.

Now, on to points. Are physics applicable in a comics debate? Spiderman may very well be able to generate more force with his fingers than bullets can. Since Wolverine's skin is NOT bulletproof, Peter could conceivably pull an "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" on him. I doubt even Logan can survive long if his intestines and heart are ripped out.

I still say the webs are dismissed way too casually. Wolverine has means to escape from them, but that does not make his escape instant. A stream of webs can build up on him much faster than he can cut himself free. Eventually, both arms are going to get pinned down, and then it's up to Peter as to how he should go about finishing Logan off. Just smashing Wolverine won't work, but Spiderman is quite the versatile little biatch.

I'm much more favrorable to these two methods succeeding than just pounding on the little runt.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Nice non-sequiter. 🙄
Wishful thinking. . . but again, I would have had to try in order to lose, in order for you to win. However you have tried and failed to dissuade me from my position, so no, you have failed, quite miserably at that.

If my intention was to dissuade you, then yes, you'd be correct. But up until the moment when you decided to make a personal attack against me, I had no idea who you were. So, yet again, you are mistaken.

Have I tried to persuade you to the other side? No. Do I think it's a worthwhile effort?

Well that last bit about fanboys certainly makes it seem like you have a mind like a steel trap, rusted and illegal.

And if that's the extent of your powers to persuade, jibing me with a joke so lame my grandfather would apologize for uttering it, then clearly your skills are not up to the task. Worse still, you're about as funny as Robin Williams in his post-cocaine years, which is to say, not at all.

Between your IQ and your shoe size?

No, between the people who would give this fight to Spiderman, and those who would give it to Wolverine. But, then again, you already knew that, but couldn't resist the urge to lay down another 50 year old punchline. Someone call George and Gracie...this kid's gonna be a star!

OH, third grade insults, how debate worthy of you.

I've given up trying to debate my lessers. My points remain valid and unchallenged, despite your palsied attempts to question authority. Any disinterested third party has the record of our exchange to judge this by. In this light, I'm comfortable with my performance. So much so that I choose now to bow out, and leave you chasing your tail in an attempt to make up for lost ground. Good luck on that; I'm done with you.

Originally posted by Dizzle

On a complete side note, God DAMMIT you sound like an ******* when you're good at arguing.

Well, that's a backhanded compliment if ever I heard one, but I'll take `em where I can get `em. Thanks, I think. 😕

Originally posted by Melnorme
If my intention was to dissuade you, then yes, you'd be correct. But up until the moment when you decided to make a personal attack against me, I had no idea who you were. So, yet again, you are mistaken.
yes because the whole point of making a post in a battle thread highlighting the reasons why, and how much you think a character would win has nothing to do with trying to convince a person of your veiws, especially when they break out the debate terminology in the following posts. . . 🙄

Originally posted by Melnorme
And if that's the extent of your powers to persuade, jibing me with a joke so lame my grandfather would apologize for uttering it, then clearly your skills are not up to the task.
Yeah like you're going to goad me nto arguing with you with that tired old reverse psychology bit. . . yawn

Originally posted by Melnorme
Worse still, you're about as funny as Robin Williams in his post-cocaine years, which is to say, not at all.
Yes because obviously I was joking. 🙄

Originally posted by Melnorme
No, between the people who would give this fight to Spiderman, and those who would give it to Wolverine. But, then again, you already knew that, but couldn't resist the urge to lay down another 50 year old punchline. Someone call George and Gracie...this kid's gonna be a star!
Yes as obviously I'm joking. . again. . .
Originally posted by Melnorme
I've given up trying to debate my lessers.
And you still try to debate with your betters which is why you are still talking to me, thanks for the indirect compliment.

Originally posted by Melnorme
My points remain valid and unchallenged,
No it isn't. Slothful induction is hardly a valid argument.

Originally posted by Melnorme
despite your palsied attempts to question authority.
It's be questioning authority if you had any. As you have none I'm not questioning authority.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Any disinterested third party has the record of our exchange to judge this by. In this light, I'm comfortable with my performance.
I'd sure hope so, coming in here and making assumptions of another person's veiw.

"Suck it fanboy." was it?

Originally posted by Melnorme
So much so that I choose now to bow out, and leave you chasing your tail in an attempt to make up for lost ground.
Bout time, you've only been arguing with me for some time, not even knowing what my stance was. That's pretty damned sad.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Good luck on that; I'm done with you.
Again, bout time. You should have quit when you were ahead, and to do that you would have needed to nt post anything.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Well, that's a backhanded compliment if ever I heard one, but I'll take `em where I can get `em. Thanks, I think. 😕
Desperate for approval? Sad really.

Originally posted by Dizzle
God, debate jargon f***ing rules... This is first class entertainment. This has gone through every possible high class debate strategy within a page, from the old standby of "No, my dad (favorite character) could beat up your dad (favorite character)!" to the always popular "No I win!" to the incomparable "You're stupid!" I'm just waiting for someone to whip out the ultimate, uncounterable... "Your Mom!" Seriously. This is freaking hilarious, cuz Cresh had been the only one who really throws around the terminology, until now. He says "ad hominem" or "strawman" every other post. Seriously chaps, Melnorme, Creshosk, well done. This is up there with "Whirly vs. Never".

On a complete side note, God DAMMIT you sound like an ******* when you're good at arguing.

Now, on to points. Are physics applicable in a comics debate? Spiderman may very well be able to generate more force with his fingers than bullets can. Since Wolverine's skin is NOT bulletproof, Peter could conceivably pull an "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" on him. I doubt even Logan can survive long if his intestines and heart are ripped out.

I still say the webs are dismissed way too casually. Wolverine has means to escape from them, but that does not make his escape instant. A stream of webs can build up on him much faster than he can cut himself free. Eventually, both arms are going to get pinned down, and then it's up to Peter as to how he should go about finishing Logan off. Just smashing Wolverine won't work, but Spiderman is quite the versatile little biatch.

Good post. Wolvie's honestly not fast or strong enough to stop Spidey from doing stuff to him. Spidey can strip the flesh from his bones and demuscle him(I think I used this in the trio thread). Bones can't move by themselves unless were talking 'bout Juggernaut. They'd grow back but by then it'd be too late. Spidey's just a bit too much for Wolvie unless he's fighting "slow and stupid".

Let the actions speak, for they are louder than words!

Wolvie wouldn't have scored any of those graveyard attacks if Spidey didn't stupidly let him tackle him. Wolvie's not winning this unless Spidey flat out f**ks up. If they're both @ 100% and fighting with intelligence, Spidey's got this. Wolvie could do his best and still lose to a Spidey doing his best. Spidey fighting to his full potential beats the shit out of Wolvie doing the same.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Wolvie wouldn't have scored any of those graveyard attacks if Spidey didn't stupidly let him tackle him. Wolvie's not winning this unless Spidey flat out f**ks up. If they're both @ 100% and fighting with intelligence, Spidey's got this. Wolvie could do his best and still lose to a Spidey doing his best. Spidey fighting to his full potential beats the shit out of Wolvie doing the same.

Spiderman would never have gotten tired huh? 🙄

Never said that. Spidey should've ended that scrap before he felt any kind of fatigue. Why didn't he use webbing @ all in that fight? He's using that shit on the cover😕He fought slow and stupid in that fight because he was scared.(and yet Wolvie still couldn't tag him w/out Spidey letting him)

Originally posted by brainchild81
Wolvie wouldn't have scored any of those graveyard attacks if Spidey didn't stupidly let him tackle him. Wolvie's not winning this unless Spidey flat out f**ks up. If they're both @ 100% and fighting with intelligence, Spidey's got this. Wolvie could do his best and still lose to a Spidey doing his best. Spidey fighting to his full potential beats the shit out of Wolvie doing the same.

Fighting 100%? So when spidey says "I've given him everything I've got" it means he's not fightin 100%?

He said he moves 40x faster than a human too...

It's probably just you that said that.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=2671857

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I think it's dumb that Wolverine's head has no damage to it and while Spiderman was cracking the tombstone. He should of been tearing his mask/skin off his face.

And how does Spiderman compare to the Spiderwoman on the new Avengers team? 'Cause I recall her stabbing Wolverine in the face with his own claws.