Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Did you say anything? You accuse me of adhominem, but you do it TWICE?
Hardly, I didn't ad hominem against you. Nice dodge though.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Hypocritical, you ARE a woman...
Only if you're a moron.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Spiderman's web doesn't "gum you up" the way you think.

It looks like it does in the comics.
Originally posted by scotsmn
It turns into a rubbery substance without much give which can be cut or ripped off your flesh taking your top layers of skin with it.. or your clothes.

If this were true, every crook in creation would always get away from Spiderman. According to official sources, it takes at least a class 50 strength to break out of Spiderman's webbing. Take it up with Stan Lee.
Originally posted by scotsmn
Spiderman can only change directions with walls around... are you assuming that there are walls placed around for Spiderman's benefit?
Walls, or trees, or anything vertical. In 99% of Spiderman comics, there are vertical things around. Heck, there's vertical buildings where 99% of the planet's population is.

Are you assuming they're fighting in the Gobi Desert or in the steppes of Russia for Wolverine's benefit? 😛

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hardly, I didn't ad hominem against you. Nice dodge though.

Only if you're a moron.

Is he still harassing you cresh ?

Originally posted by Melnorme
Are you sure the laser's targetting system didn't merely miss? 😛
*rolleyes*

Well when It's spiderman dodgeing a computerized lazer targeting system is impressive. . When it's wolverine, the targeting system screwed up. . .

Well thanks for debunking Spiderman dodging lazers or being hypocritical. 🙂

Originally posted by scotsmn
Spiderman's web doesn't "gum you up" the way you think. It turns into a rubbery substance without much give which can be cut or ripped off your flesh taking your top layers of skin with it.. or your clothes.

Spiderman can only change directions with walls around... are you assuming that there are walls placed around for Spiderman's benefit?

It's obvious that you are making that webbing info up. He's shot a lot of webbing in the past twenty years and you're WAAAAAAAY off. Guess how many times he's set up a typical sticky web TRAP. ( You know, like a spiders)

I'm pretty sure that he knows how to "gum up" anything he wants to. Do you know what consistency means? Yes it cures/hardens almost instantly but the consistency of the cured webbing depends on the consistency of the ejected webbing. Should be obvious.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Is he still harassing you cresh ?
Well, he like Evil Genius.. . just harrassed me over the thing that EG got banned for . . .

Originally posted by The MISTER
It's obvious that you are making that webbing info up. He's shot a lot of webbing in the past twenty years and you're WAAAAAAAY off. Guess how many times he's set up a typical sticky web TRAP. ( You know, like a spiders)

I'm pretty sure that he knows how to "gum up" anything he wants to. Do you know what consistency means? Yes it cures/hardens almost instantly but the consistency of the cured webbing depends on the consistency of the ejected webbing. Should be obvious.

So . . can you prove that Spiderman's organic webbing is as good as his webshooters were? Can you prove he can still do some of the things he used to do?

Cause all of theose Webshooter feats are nice and all. . . but since he has organic webbing now, it's kind of a moot point. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
Well, he like Evil Genius.. . just harrassed me over the thing that EG got banned for . . .

I know the hostility .

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Did you say anything? You accuse me of adhominem, but you do it TWICE?

Hypocritical, you ARE a woman...

Not sure if that...thing is a woman, but it is hypocritical.

And it did implicitly or directly attack your character, as you stated, twice. Rest assured, you are correct, and at least I noticed.

But I'd recommend ignoring it. It has proven itself to be beneath my notice. It cannot spell, the ability to think rationally it has exhibited thus far leaves something to be desired, and it pretends to know what's what by tossing out phrases like "slothful induction" and "ad hominem" when it plainly doesn't understand what these terms describe. I'd dare say that it is looking up these terms on some internet site as it goes along.

In time, you'll probably notice that it becomes so desperate for your attention, that it posts the most absurd and inflammatory blather just to try to provoke any sort of response. Also, you may even take some small amount of pleasure in seeing its histrionics reach a fever-pitch.

I sure have. 😈

Originally posted by Creshosk
So . . can you prove that Spiderman's organic webbing is as good as his webshooters were? Can you prove he can still do some of the things he used to do?

Cause all of theose Webshooter feats are nice and all. . . but since he has organic webbing now, it's kind of a moot point. . .

Well if we're using the characters at their best then wouldn't Spider-man use whichever is superior? The web shooters are part of Peter Parker and to say otherwise is assanine. Does he not have access to them due to the organic webbing?

It's not the same as bone and adamantium because the web shooters are machines. Unless you can prove that he said he would never use them again or that it's impossible for him to use them now then you really don't have a point about the organic webbing.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Not sure if that...thing is a woman, but it is hypocritical.

And it did implicitly or directly attack your character, as you stated, twice. Rest assured, you are correct, and at least I noticed.

You're opinion is already biased.

Originally posted by Melnorme
But I'd recommend ignoring it. It has proven itself to be beneath my notice.
Now who's being hypocritical?

Originally posted by Melnorme
It cannot spell, the ability to think rationally it has exhibited thus far leaves something to be desired,
More ad hominem. . nice.

Originally posted by Melnorme
and it pretends to know what's what by tossing out phrases like "slothful induction" and "ad hominem" when it plainly doesn't understand what these terms describe.
Thanks for that confession, but I know what I'm talking about hypocrite.

Originally posted by Melnorme
I'd dare say that it is looking up these terms on some internet site as it goes along.
Sop that's what you're doing? No wonder. . .

Originally posted by Melnorme
In time, you'll probably notice that it becomes so desperate for your attention, that it posts the most absurd and inflammatory blather just to try to provoke any sort of response.
More hypocrasy.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Also, you may even take some small amount of pleasure in seeing its histrionics reach a fever-pitch.
Interesting, at least you're confessing that you're a troll. 🙂

Originally posted by Melnorme
I sure have. 😈
Yeah, you're definitly a hypocrite.

😄 Wow the hpocrasy that eminates from you is astounding. . . Seriously. . .

And it did implicitly or directly attack your character
Thank you for making yourself a major hypocrite. 🙂

Originally posted by The MISTER
Well if we're using the characters at their best then wouldn't Spider-man use whichever is superior?
loaded question, We're using characters in their current states, not when they were at their best. . otherwise wouldn't we use the Death Wolverine that took it to hulk? Who walked through Cyclops's optic blasts? who beat down a door that Nate was holding shut?

Originally posted by The MISTER
The web shooters are part of Peter Parker and to say otherwise is assanine.
They're not anymore. He now has organic webbing, and not the shooters.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Does he not have access to them due to the organic webbing?
He doesn't regularly carry them anymore.

Originally posted by The MISTER
It's not the same as bone and adamantium because the web shooters are machines.
[ Much like Wolverine's Celestial tech armor that he doesn't currently use that allowed him to walk through forces great enough to easily shatter steel?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Unless you can prove that he said he would never use them again or that it's impossible for him to use them now then you really don't have a point about the organic webbing.
KMC rules, current version and what they regularly carry.

I'm affraid you'd have to proove that he does use them, which would be odd considering he has the organic webbing now.

Originally posted by Creshosk
They're not anymore. He now has organic webbing, and not the shooters.

He doesn't have the web shooters? Where did you get that from? Seems like you just don't wan't him to have them....IMO.

Regardless, the web shooters are regular for Spider-man. The organic webbing isn't. He might have it now but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have instant access to his web shooters at any time, unlike the character enhancers that you spoke of for Wolverine. Which one of those items does Wolverine regularly have access to?

Spider-man always, not regularly, has access to his web-shooters.....He's Spider-man for petes sake.

Originally posted by Melnorme
It cannot spell, the ability to think rationally it has exhibited thus far leaves something to be desired, and it pretends to know what's what by tossing out phrases like "slothful induction" and "ad hominem" when it plainly doesn't understand what these terms describe.

Check, check, and...check.

Originally posted by Melnorme
In time, you'll probably notice that it becomes so desperate for your attention, that it posts the most absurd and inflammatory blather just to try to provoke any sort of response. Also, you may even take some small amount of pleasure in seeing its histrionics reach a fever-pitch.

I sure have. 😈


Lessee...check, and of course...hehehe...check. 😈

I know this is sort of breaking my own rule, but I just had to point out: that looks like a whole lotta "checks", mates. 😆

Ah well. Back to watching the drone foam at the mouth and shake with such ferocity that it cna't evan speel strate.
The Germans call it schadenfreude. I simply call it Wednesday night.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So . . can you prove that Spiderman's organic webbing is as good as his webshooters were? Can you prove he can still do some of the things he used to do?

Cause all of theose Webshooter feats are nice and all. . . but since he has organic webbing now, it's kind of a moot point. . .

Ad ignorantium. Both are Spiderman's webs, which have not really been shown to be different in any way. (besides the manner in which they are fired) The burden of proof is on you to prove that they are indeed weaker than the web shooters, not the other way around. (The internet kicks ass)

And technically, wouldn't every time one person calls another out on ad hominem be ad hominem in itself? (yes, that IS a loaded question which, if honestly answered, is probably going to lead to a lot more ad hominem)

Back to Doc Ock... Don't his tentacles move at some disgusting speeds? I remember them being insanely high, but I don't recall the exact numbers, so I won't to throw false information around.

The difference between Wolverine dodging lasers and Spiderman dodging lasers is that Spiderman does it consciously, while Wolverine guesses. If someone were to anticipate his dodge, he could get fried, where this is almost impossible with Spiderman, since he reacts to his precog, which tells him where the laser will be fired.

Wait, Melnorme, did you say Wolverine might be a class 10? Pssh, fanboy. 😉 😆

Originally posted by The MISTER
He doesn't have the web shooters? Where did you get that from? Seems like you just don't wan't him to have them....IMO.
From the comics.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Regardless, the web shooters are regular for Spider-man. The organic webbing isn't.
Not anymore. Seems like you want him to have something he no longer has, and discard something he does have. . . odd.

Originally posted by The MISTER
He might have it now but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have instant access to his web shooters at any time,[/qote] Prove that he does then? regularly carry and use the shooters that is.

[QUOTE=5523229]Originally posted by The MISTER
unlike the character enhancers that you spoke of for Wolverine.

Currently have and use the celestial tech armor? Nope.
Currently have and use the Webshooters? Nope.

Seems like neither are around anymore. . yet spider-man gets the benefit of breaking the KMC rules? Nope. He doesn't.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Which one of those items does Wolverine regularly have access to?

Spider-man always, not regularly, has access to his web-shooters.....

Prove that he has them still?

Originally posted by The MISTER
He's Spider-man for petes sake.
Yup, Spiderman with organic webbing. 🙂

Originally posted by Dizzle
Ad ignorantium. Both are Spiderman's webs, which have not really been shown to be different in any way. (besides the manner in which they are fired) The burden of proof is on you to prove that they are indeed weaker than the web shooters, not the other way around. (The internet kicks ass)
Sure if you understand the terms properly. . did you read up on the not proving a negative part?

Sorry, but you guys are making the claim that they are. Pklease prove that they are. 🙂

Originally posted by Dizzle
And technically, wouldn't every time one person calls another out on ad hominem be ad hominem in itself? (yes, that IS a loaded question which, if honestly answered, is probably going to lead to a lot more ad hominem)
Nope, if you understand the term . . .

Originally posted by Melnorme
Check, check, and...check.

Lessee...check, and of course...hehehe...check. 😈

I know this is sort of breaking my own rule, but I just had to point out: that looks like a whole lotta "checks", mates. 😆

Ah well. Back to watching the drone foam at the mouth and shake with such ferocity that it cna't evan speel strate.
The Germans call it schadenfreude. I simply call it Wednesday night.

Sort of breaking your own rules is an understatement.

Your last two posts have been nothing BUT breaking your rule. Which is really quite amusing, particularly attacking someone on typos.

Nice to know that I'm such a threat that I have someone dedicated to trying to discredit me.

Look C-master, you have a replacement since you stopped doing that. 🙂

Originally posted by Dizzle
Ad ignorantium. Both are Spiderman's webs, which have not really been shown to be different in any way. (besides the manner in which they are fired) The burden of proof is on you to prove that they are indeed weaker than the web shooters, not the other way around. (The internet kicks ass)

Oh shizzle. 😱

Originally posted by Dizzle
And technically, wouldn't every time one person calls another out on ad hominem be ad hominem in itself? (yes, that IS a loaded question which, if honestly answered, is probably going to lead to a lot more ad hominem)

You can say something negative about someone, if it's relevant and true. For example, if I were to persuade you not to trust your child to someone's care as a babysitter because they are a convicted sex offender, then that's not an example of an ad hominem fallacy.

Originally posted by Dizzle
The difference between Wolverine dodging lasers and Spiderman dodging lasers is that Spiderman does it consciously, while Wolverine guesses. If someone were to anticipate his dodge, he could get fried, where this is almost impossible with Spiderman, since he reacts to his precog, which tells him where the laser will be fired.

Stated better than I could. Bravo.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Wait, Melnorme, did you say Wolverine might be a class 10? Pssh, fanboy. 😉 😆

Oh, you got my number!
Seriously, though. I was told that this "Class (blah blah blah)" system was a referrence to the old TSR Marvel game. Wolverine, I'm pretty sure, was "Class 10 (Good)" in Strength, which let him lift around 500 pounds. Class 20 was 1000, Class 30 was 1 Ton, Class 40 (Incredible - like Spider Man) was 10 Tons, and Class 50, 75, and 100 reflected their tonnage. If I've got this system wrong with relation to this board, my mistake!
And don't ask me how I can remember all that junk, and I can barely remember my own cell phone number!

Originally posted by Creshosk
Sure if you understand the terms properly. . did you read up on the not proving a negative part?

What does it mean by this?