Originally posted by scotsmn
How many times does Wolverine have to tag Spiderman for it to stop being pis/cis? At some point you have to either say.. "hey, Wolverine must be faster than I thought, since he keeps tagging Spiderman in different issues" OR "hey, Spiderman must be slower than I thought since he keeps getting tagged by Wolverine." This wasn't a one time occurence; it's part of the norm now. By the way, Spiderman gets hit by other guys that are supposedly slower than him.. mere humans.
I've got a question for you..how many times does Spiderman have to dodge things much faster than Wolverine..for you to understand that it must be PIS when Wolverine tags him?
Has Spiderman dodged Lasers? ✅
Has Spiderman dodged Super Speedsters? ✅
Has Spiderman dodged Symbiotic darts thrown at him by Carnage..without the aid of his Spider Sense? ✅
Has Spiderman demonstrated the ability to move at Superspeed? ✅ (*note often times he's referred to as a "blur"😉
Does Marvel state that Wolverine moves faster than any of these things?...❌
Does a fight between Wolverine and Spiderman, need to last more than one panel to appease the fanboys of both characters? ✅
Do we need to learn to use our Common sense, when determining the victor of these battles? ✅
Fin
Originally posted by whobdamandog
I've got a question for you..how many times does Spiderman have to dodge things much faster than Wolverine..for you to understand that it must be PIS.Has Spiderman dodged Lasers? ✅
Has Spiderman dodged Super Speedsters? ✅
Has Spiderman dodged Symbiotic darts thrown at him by Carnage..without the aid of his Spider Sense? ✅
Has Spiderman demonstrated the ability to move at Superspeed? ✅ (*note often times he's referred to as a "blur"😉
Can Wolverine move faster than any of these things?...❌
Does a fight between Wolverine and Spiderman, need to last more than one panel to appease the fanboys of both characters? ✅
Do we need to learn to use our Common sense, when determining the victors of these battles? ✅
Fin
Are you a spidey fanboy ✅
😈
Originally posted by Creshosk
Nope bringing up present strategy, has no bearing on another person bringing up past mistakes.See totally disconnected.
Which has nothing to do with bringing up past mistakes.
It would if I did that. 🙂 Which I don't.
So you were defending someone who was in the wrong with a non-sequiter. . . because he attempted an ad hominem?
OF course not, only Spiderman's top tier feats are useable, and anything that makes wolverine look good and especially if its a direct comparison between the two characters it's not useable.
And he's also been hit plenty of times, same with wolverine dodging some and taking others, but I guess Spiderman dodges absolutly everything, and Wolverine dodges nothing. Right?
Spiderman is as strong as the hulk?
And how hard did Guardian hit? Can you prove it?
Oh so now wer're only using Woplverine low end feats? See told you you hypocrite.
Double hypocrite because you tried to chew me out for a preceived hypocrasy.
Yes because Wolverine is doing good it's pis. . . 🙄 Or is it because Spiderman was not being protrayed as godlike?
Appearently they are since Spiderman does indeed get just what he needs right when he needs it.
Oh so now it's a plot device? 🙄
I guess technically every story is a plot device isn't it?
So I guess comic aren not useable.
🙄 yeah I gess Wolverine is always a plot device when he fights, and so is hulk, since hey, rage is an emotion, and guess what?
Sorry, emotions are part of the characters.
Yes because he was portrayed as less than a god wasn't he?
Bullshit, unless he's knocked out before he takes the damage.
So why are you weven mentioning it in a way that sounds like you're trying to disccard it hmmm?
except that you'll bring it up like it shouldn't be?
Well. . .
But anyway you're still being nitpicky about the way the story was portrayed rather than what the story was.
So you also feel that art is more important than the story?
Funny how Spiderman fanboys always seem to think that isn't it?
Obviously some of the story is depicted as art, a bad depiction of the story in the art makes it a bad story? Bullshit.
Well that's at least twice now. . . more times and it'll be frequent enough top be part of his character, rather than just his emotion. . won't it?
Uh, no you're grabbing at straws. . did you read the picture I posted? Hmm?
I thought not.
🙄 really? I thought that his earlier explinations of why he does it would have told you different. . . Guess you know him better than he knows himself huh?
"I didn't like it!"
Sure then we can talk about frequency and how its then acceptable?
*yawn*
"He [b]interprets
his spidersense and acts accordingly."AS is Wolverine, as is just about any experienced character, it's still not a skill that is part of his spidersense. [/B]
I don't see how this is hard to understand... You brought up something I said to use against me. You did the same to willrules. He took something that you messed up on, you twisted my words. Same difference, it's ad hominem in both cases.
I wasn't trying to defend him because he used ad hominem, I defended him cuz A: Willrules is quite a guy. B: I doubt he knows what ad hominem really is, despite the number of times its been brought up in this thread.
You just recently tried to say "Wolverine hit him, it'll happen again", even though Spiderman has dodged things that are much faster and precise than Wolverine's claws. Him getting hit by Wolverine is a low end feat for Spiderman. It happened, but he's been portrayed much better. By the same token, every time Wolverine is shown to be hurt by something less than the freaking Hulk, you scream PIS, because it's NOT his best showing of durability. I'm saying both should be used to potential. Wolverine probably should not be knocked out in this fight, but it should take Wolverine a long time to actually hit Spiderman. You're a hypocrite. Again.
Hulk hit a glancing blow. I have no idea how much force Guardian was hitting with, but it wasn't anything near a Hulk punch. Three guys with guns is a low end feat for Wolverine. Similar to Spiderman not even trying to twist away from Wolverine stabbing him. 🙂 If one's not usable, why is the other? Correct, you like it when you think it gives Wolverine a shot at actually winning. You are a hypocrite. Again and again and again.
You just went into a lengthy description about why the art says that Wolverine let Spiderman hit him. You're a hypocrite. I don't wanna type out 'again' that many times, so I'm gonna stop with it. 🙂
When did I say Spiderman gets everything he needs? Give him an empty field and Wolverine's dead. The only way Wolverine will win is if you put them in a small cage, and THAT is battlefield stacking.
Spiderman was freaking out and fighting stupid. He even said so himself. How is that NOT PIS?
Him showing emotion makes him perform badly, as he states himself. There's a rule called "Bloodlust", y'know. It's pretty interesting. Quite a read...
The initial damage is what knocks someone out. It isn't something that just accumulates. The brain hits the skull, the person is unconscious. There's no time to heal in between, so the only way for a healing factor to prevent it would be to begin compensating before the damage is done.
It's illogical, it's a comic book. I don't like it, but I'll accept that it happens in an actual majority of Wolverine stories. Sorry if enjoying logic offends you though.
Once again, you jsut argued that Wolverine let SM hit him. Your argument was BASED ON THE ART. Hypocrite. x1 billion.
I don't really like particularly low end feats, no. Wolverine got knocked out by bullets. Do you like that? Too bad, it happened, Spiderman flicks him for the KO.
[QUOTE=5535728]Originally posted by whobdamandog
[B]I've got a question for you..how many times does Spiderman have to dodge things much faster than Wolverine..for you to understand that it must be PIS when Wolverine tags him?
Has Spiderman dodged Lasers? ✅
so has wolverine
Has Spiderman dodged Super Speedsters? ✅
so has wolverine
Has Spiderman dodged Symbiotic darts thrown at him by
Carnage..without the aid of his Spider Sense? ✅
big whoop.
Has Spiderman demonstrated the ability to move at Superspeed? ✅ (*note often times he's referred to as a "blur"😉
wolverine has moved so fast that he cut guns and a guy and shredds befor any one new what happen
Does Marvel state that Wolverine moves faster than any of these things?...❌
they also do not state that spiderman does either. oh and they also don't state that wolverine does not.
Does a fight between Wolverine and Spiderman, need to last more
than one panel to appease the fanboys of both characters? ✅
funny how ur right that why spidermans aloud to survive more then 4 panels
Do we need to learn to use our Common sense, when determining
the victor of these battles? ✅
agreed wolverine wins.
Originally posted by Dizzle
I don't see how this is hard to understand... You brought up something I said to use against me. You did the same to willrules. He took something that you messed up on, you twisted my words. Same difference, it's ad hominem in both cases.I wasn't trying to defend him because he used ad hominem, I defended him cuz A: Willrules is quite a guy. B: I doubt he knows what ad hominem really is, despite the number of times its been brought up in this thread.
You just recently tried to say "Wolverine hit him, it'll happen again", even though Spiderman has dodged things that are much faster and precise than Wolverine's claws. Him getting hit by Wolverine is a low end feat for Spiderman. It happened, but he's been portrayed much better. By the same token, every time Wolverine is shown to be hurt by something less than the freaking Hulk, you scream PIS, because it's NOT his best showing of durability. I'm saying both should be used to potential. Wolverine probably should not be knocked out in this fight, but it should take Wolverine a long time to actually hit Spiderman. You're a hypocrite. Again.
Hulk hit a glancing blow. I have no idea how much force Guardian was hitting with, but it wasn't anything near a Hulk punch. Three guys with guns is a low end feat for Wolverine. Similar to Spiderman not even trying to twist away from Wolverine stabbing him. 🙂 If one's not usable, why is the other? Correct, you like it when you think it gives Wolverine a shot at actually winning. You are a hypocrite. Again and again and again.
You just went into a lengthy description about why the art says that Wolverine let Spiderman hit him. You're a hypocrite. I don't wanna type out 'again' that many times, so I'm gonna stop with it. 🙂
When did I say Spiderman gets everything he needs? Give him an empty field and Wolverine's dead. The only way Wolverine will win is if you put them in a small cage, and THAT is battlefield stacking.
Spiderman was freaking out and fighting stupid. He even said so himself. How is that NOT PIS?
Him showing emotion makes him perform badly, as he states himself. There's a rule called "Bloodlust", y'know. It's pretty interesting. Quite a read...
The initial damage is what knocks someone out. It isn't something that just accumulates. The brain hits the skull, the person is unconscious. There's no time to heal in between, so the only way for a healing factor to prevent it would be to begin compensating before the damage is done.
It's illogical, it's a comic book. I don't like it, but I'll accept that it happens in an actual majority of Wolverine stories. Sorry if enjoying logic offends you though.Once again, you jsut argued that Wolverine let SM hit him. Your argument was BASED ON THE ART. Hypocrite. x1 billion.
I don't really like particularly low end feats, no. Wolverine got knocked out by bullets. Do you like that? Too bad, it happened, Spiderman flicks him for the KO.
so punisher can put spiderman in head locks?
cyber ninjas can beat spidermans ass?