Originally posted by scotsmn
Umm, I'm not even sure that's Wolverine. Where does it say "snikt"? What comic is that from? I can't even see how Wolverine is tied up. What's the point of that scan?
It's Wolverine. He says "snikt" in the next panel. The point is that, if he's bound by the wrists, he's helpless as a kitten.
Originally posted by Melnorme
It's Wolverine. He says "snikt" in the next panel. The point is that, if he's bound by the wrists, he's helpless as a kitten.
Doesn't look like Wolverine... 😕
Is that absorbing man? If it is... what do you think he's made out of in that scan? 😉 Something tells me whatever is, probably is harder than skin to break.
That guy doesn't look like he's trying to break it to me. He's giving a dirty look, then Spiderman kicks him. That shows nothing to help your case at all.
Originally posted by scotsmn
Doesn't look like Wolverine... 😕Is that absorbing man? If it is... what do you think he's made out of in that scan? 😉 Something tells me whatever is, probably is harder than skin to break.
That guy doesn't look like he's trying to break it to me. He's giving a dirty look, then Spiderman kicks him. That shows nothing to help your case at all.
The pictures speak for themselves. You can spin, but you still won't win.
Wolverine gets bound by the wrists, and can't break free. Spiderman 10/10.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Wait, if Wolverine actually got his wrists webbed to a wall, he would have no chance of getting off... He can't cut it, because his claws wouldn't be able to even get close to there. The bones in his hands would be too wide to pull his skin off with the webs. And he's nowhere near class 50. If that happens, he's screwed.
what ****ing wall?!?!?! 😕
Originally posted by Dizzle
My kickass scenario: Fight begins. Wolverine runs, Spiderman shoots a web at Wolverine's chest. If it connects, .
yup.. IF it connects.... connects with a guy who sees bullets go bye in slow motion.... 🙄 even then... I guess wolverine's suffering from major CIS since he's simply not slicing through it, or grabbing it and tugging it sending spiderman airborn (like nightcrawler did) or hell dodging it...
Originally posted by Dizzle
Spiderman swings him over his head to the ground, a few feet away. .
which is a probability right? cause wolverine would never.. idunno CUT the webbing off him? 🤨
Originally posted by Dizzlethis is just beyond wishful thinking.. not only did spiderman secure the webbing and the toss AND without wolverine retaliating it, he is also not even moving his arms from spiderman "hopping" onto them? 🤨 pffft...
A short hop lands one foot on each of Wolverine's arms...
Originally posted by Dizzleoy, and I thought the last part was wishful thinking.... guess he can punch through an admantium ribcage now?
At the same time, he's firing two streams of web at Wolverine's wrists. Wolverine is webbed to the ground, with no means of escape. Spiderman tears out his heart..
Originally posted by Dizzledodges the swipe but now it's too late.. wolverine's doing his "flowing" one move to the next thing and now spiderman's pinched for distance, (like spidey said) if he gives logan one second wolverine will kill him... I also like how spidey can land the webbing and secure a webthrow in mid-jump with this scenario... 😂
If the initial web throw fails, Spiderman dodges a swipe and trips him or jumps away and webthrows him from there. ..
Originally posted by Dizzle
Can't land on both arms at the same time? Land on one, web it, catch/dodge the inevitable counterswipe, (grab his arm if he opted to dodge) web it to the ground. Spiderman is much faster than Wolverine, Spiderman is much stronger than Wolverine.
Originally posted by Dizzle
That's just one scenario. It uses both his physical advantages and webs. He isn't limited to one at a time...
it uses more pis and cis then has ever BEEN used in any of the five comic book examples barring secret wars.... yeah it's one scenario.. and it fails miserably....
Originally posted by Melnorme
Too right. Not only can Wolverine's ears work as a targetting sense all of a sudden, but they can detect the sound of a foot moving inside of a sock...before it even happens!
all of the sudden? 🤨
do you even know which character you're arguing against here? this guy's trained as a blind swordsmen/fighter and has proven to use his senses that put him nearly equals with spiderman in determining oncoming threats. (new avengers)
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Rebuttal..
wow.. I've not seen such a hypocritical post up on the boards since the last time we got into it in the trio thread... pffft... 🙄
first pic... dissing wolverine on being a pis generator
ignoring: the pis spiderman generated in that little scenario...
2nd and third pics note spiderman's spider sense and casual bitchslap...
ignoring: wolverine not onyl got right back up.. but did the exact same thing in turn to spidey on the rooftop... well done.... doh
4th pic noting spiderman's trash talk...
ignoring: wolverine's trash talk on the next page and pretty much several pages after that...
5th pic boasting spidey can web logan
ignoring: wolverine got out when he wanted to, was held there by walls not guaranteed in this fight and multitudes of circumstances that led up to it...
6th and 7th pics show wolverine getting KOed by thing
ignoring: wolverine was already messed up and spiderman is NOT anywhere NEAR as strong as the thing... 🤨
8th pic.... complete and total harmony with the most hipocritical edit yet considering the first 3 pics and what happened during that escapade... ❌
well.................... that was an incredible waist of time.. thanks whob... 🙄
Originally posted by Dizzle
Are Spiderman's webs slow now? Wanna bring in the Hulk picture one more time?
well I mean again.. if you want to use faster than lightspeed webbing which wolverine has gotten out off, broken free off, and cut through making him> light speed thus> spiderman.... 😕
Originally posted by Dizzle
My scenario remains the more likely of the two. Put more basically, Spiderman gets Wolverine to the ground using his strength, then holds his arms down and webs them. Wolverine is dead.
actually your scenario is just as horrible as his, you both dumbed down the opposition while hyping up the character you were supporting.
Originally posted by Dizzleyours relies on wolverine being a complete fool when it comes to fighting, as well as being slower than he's proven to be... 🤨
Yours relies on Wolverine having precog.
Originally posted by Dizzle
has Wolverine done anything that precise with his senses? Not even close.
sure he has, he's trained to fight and swordfight blind, he used them in a spiderman like fasion to kick rogue out of the way of oncoming lasers, he's used them to register oncoming bullets like they're in slow motion, and he used them to pick up on heat seeking missiles at the same time spiderman's spider sense did... and before iron man's radar could...
Originally posted by Dizzle
Your scenario also requires Wolverine to be at least as fast, if not faster, than Spiderman himself. Simply not true.
not really, just fast enough to hit spidey.. he's certainly capaible of that after about a minute of fighting...
Originally posted by Dizzle
Wait, Wolverine's wrists are sharp now? 🤨Wolverine can't touch his wrists with his claws. Not even close, the things are a foot long. Try pointing your knuckles at your wrist, you won't even come close.
Spiderman's way faster than Wolverine. If Wolverine just got tripped or thrown to the ground, is he really gonna be in a position to stop Spidey? What if he's thrown onto his stomach? Unless he's impaling himself, Spidey's going to have plenty of time to pin and web him down.
This is all assuming, of course, that simply dumping webs on him after Wolvie's floored won't work. His webs are pretty fast...
actually spiderman's not WAYYY faster.. as spiderman as proven with feats and thoughts...
he may have better reflexes that allow him to "appear" faster but he's realistically only 12% faster than logan.. that's not good due to fatigue.
Originally posted by jinzin
all of the sudden? 🤨do you even know which character you're arguing against here? this guy's trained as a blind swordsmen/fighter and has proven to use his senses that put him nearly equals with spiderman in determining oncoming threats. (new avengers)
Gross exaggeration. Logan might be the next man down in the queue, but that doesn't make them "nearly equals", any more than a 350Z that comes in second place to a Charger in a 1 on 1 streetrace are "nearly equals". 😆
Originally posted by jinzin
wow.. I've not seen such a hypocritical post up on the boards since the last time we got into it in the trio thread... pffft... 🙄first pic... dissing wolverine on being a pis generator
ignoring: the pis spiderman generated in that little scenario...
Originally posted by jinzin
2nd and third pics note spiderman's spider sense and casual bitchslap...ignoring: wolverine not onyl got right back up.. but did the exact same thing in turn to spidey on the rooftop... well done.... doh
Originally posted by jinzin
4th pic noting spiderman's trash talk...ignoring: wolverine's trash talk on the next page and pretty much several pages after that...
Originally posted by jinzin
5th pic boasting spidey can web loganignoring: wolverine got out when he wanted to, was held there by walls not guaranteed in this fight and multitudes of circumstances that led up to it...
Originally posted by jinzin
6th and 7th pics show wolverine getting KOed by thingignoring: wolverine was already messed up and spiderman is NOT anywhere NEAR as strong as the thing... 🤨
Originally posted by jinzin
8th pic.... complete and total harmony with the most hipocritical edit yet considering the first 3 pics and what happened during that escapade... ❌well.................... that was an incredible waist of time.. thanks whob... 🙄
Originally posted by jinzin
actually spiderman's not WAYYY faster.. as spiderman as proven with feats and thoughts...he may have better reflexes that allow him to "appear" faster but he's realistically only 12% faster than logan.. that's not good due to fatigue.
That's the extreme minority opinion, pal. Spidey's at least several times faster, even discounting Spider-sense. Like the example above, Wolverine's second-place...a distant one, too.
Originally posted by jinzinIf he's only 12% faster(proof?), why did you put "appear" faster? Appearing ain't got s**t to do w/it. He IS faster.🙂
actually spiderman's not WAYYY faster.. as spiderman as proven with feats and thoughts...he may have better reflexes that allow him to "appear" faster but he's realistically only 12% faster than logan.. that's not good due to fatigue.
Originally posted by jinzin
ignoring: wolverine got out when he wanted to, was held there by walls not guaranteed in this fight
You're right Jin..it was wrong of me to assume that "walls" are a guaranteed. I mean come on, not to many places now a days..have buildings, houses, bridges...or similar things that Wolverine could be webbed too.
It would have been even more foolish to assume that Wolverine could have been webbed to the ground..because for all we know..both combatants could be fighting in Deep Space!! Or what if they were fighting under water? The webs will definately be ineffective down there!!
I've also made a couple of other poor assumptions..let me go ahead and post them right now..before you call me out again.
Poor assumptions made by whob:
Spiderman using his webshooters.
Spiderman using his superstrength.
Spiderman using his super speed.
Spiderman using his super agility.
Spiderman using his Spider Sense.
Spiderman using his superhuman reflexes.
Spiderman being able to hear.
Spiderman being able to see.
Spiderman attempting to dodge Wolverine's strikes.
Spiderman having a chance at winning this battle.
Okay..I believe that clears everything up. Please don't call me out like that again..it's embarassing. 😮
😆 😆
Originally posted by jinzin
ignoring: wolverine was already messed up and spiderman is NOT anywhere NEAR as strong as the thing... 🤨
Problem Solved:
It ain't PIS fellas..Wolverine is really the boy in blue. You managed to fool us for a little while Superman..but now we can see through the illusion..
😆 😆
Fin