Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

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Originally posted by whobdamandog
Exactly..as quoted in scripture from the good book..

Taken from Chapter 1 of the first book titled "Ad nauseam"..Written by the Apostle Creshosk

Verse 1..

"Ye shall not worship any gods before or after Wolverine."

verse 2...

"Honor thy Wolverine and his plot devices...and your days shall be long on this earth."

Jinzin..Have ye forgotten to use the sacred scriptures whilst thou debates?

Verse 3

May my words from the mouth..

be acceptable on the site in which I prophesize thy teachings...My lord..Wolverine..

Amen.

😇

Originally posted by jinzin
no it was plot devices and circumstances..

Right. Leading him through buildings, fighting him in places where Spidey has an advantage, sending him into a river, blowing him up in a gasoline explosion...none of that is tactical, nor is any of it strategic.

You can play it off as PIS all you want, but can you back it up? Or are we merely to accept your insistance as proof enough?

Originally posted by jinzin although I will admit firelord trying to take it easy on him and engage hin in a h2h fight after th pot devices wasn't very smart at all...

Has Wolverine8888's little brother gotten his hands on your computer as well? I can't make out what you're trying to admit to.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Jinzin..Have ye forgotten to use the sacred scriptures whilst thou debates?

Verse 3

May my words from the mouth..

be acceptable on the site in which I prophesize thy teachings...My lord..Wolverine..

Amen.

😇

I missed you. 🙂

Verse 4. Taken from the book of Ad Nauseam the words of the Lord Wolverine..Spoken thru the Apostle Creshosk..

Respect thy Lord Wolverine..and honor him with all thy heart and mind. If ye do these things..ye shall inherit the power of thy plot device and it will produce good works thru you.

Amen, bub.

Originally posted by Melnorme
I missed you. 🙂

Brother Mel..whilst you lead us in a prayer to our Lord?

Meditate on these words, from the Book of Weapon X, Chapter 3 Verse 12:

"And lo, though thine claws go 'snikt', and the scoring of organic steel doth be satisfying, I say unto thee: if thou should plungeth thine claws deep, into the steel of organic nature, then unto thee thine enemies shall be naught. For surely, if thine claws are capable of producing many sparks and scratches most deep, then I say that steel is no match for the Great Sharpness and the Fury of the Canuck."

Praise be.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I didn't see him throwing it, sorry.

no biggy

just one slash from wolverine and id say spiderman wouldnt last for along time cause he doesnt have a healing ability. but wolverine would have a hassel doing that to him cause spiderman is faster

More pics, entertain me.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No, C-master is definitely correct. Something I've brought up before, too.

Look at Wolverine. He's not lifting the elevator car. He's holding it with a death grip. His skeleton is doing the rest.

If I had an unbreakable skeleton and maybe just a good-gripping glove, I could do the same thing. If he didn't have that adamantium skeleton, the weight of that car would pull his arm from its socket if he didn't let go.

Strength is not an issue in that instance.

Spiderman, however...

lol.. it's only an unbreakable skeleton when spiderman's not trying to break it.. 🙄

(that's not at you metalman just something I find funny... )

Do we all agree at this point that Wolverine holding up the elevator car is an example of great strength?

Originally posted by Melnorme
Right. Leading him through buildings, fighting him in places where Spidey has an advantage, sending him into a river, blowing him up in a gasoline explosion...none of that is tactical, nor is any of it strategic.

firelord trying to fight peter in h2h is circumstantial
firelord trying not to fight hi with his best weapon was circumstatial
firelord holding back for spidey was circumstantial.
the building drop on his head was lucky and a plot device.. nothing strategic about it...
the explosion at the gas station.. again.. lucky.... and a plot device...

I didn't deny that peter used tactics/strategy... but he didn't win on those alone.. he had plenty of plot devices there to aid him... why you're attempting to argue i don't even know.. you must be bitter from me continuously proving you wrong...

(i'm stilll waiting for you to quote me on saying that roughouse is comparible to hulk....) 🙄

Originally posted by Melnorme
You can play it off as PIS all you want, but can you back it up? Or are we merely to accept your insistance as proof enough?

I didn't call it PIS.. 😕

infact I'm one of the few people who defend that event as one of non PIS occurance... 🤨

that doesn't change the fact that peter won using a buttload of circumstances and plot devices that he wouldn't get in a fight on the forum...

Originally posted by Melnorme
Has Wolverine8888's little brother gotten his hands on your computer as well? I can't make out what you're trying to admit to.

well you're certainly showing your quality there.. of the very lowest... but while I don't have crayons to draw you a map let me try and explain it for you... you said spiderman outsmarted firelord.. I partially agree to that due to the fact that firelord made some rash desicions that simply weren't smart there...

better?

Originally posted by scotsmn
Do we all agree at this point that Wolverine holding up the elevator car is an example of great strength?

Dunno. He didn't hold it for very long, I'm not sure what was inside the elevator, and it didn't look much like he was actually carrying the weight. He could have just been dangling 800 pounds, which is pretty much what we'd expect him to be able to do.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Dunno. He didn't hold it for very long, I'm not sure what was inside the elevator, and it didn't look much like he was actually carrying the weight. He could have just been dangling 800 pounds, which is pretty much what we'd expect him to be able to do.

Not only did he hold it, he caught it after it had already gained some momentum.. which is even harder. "dangling" 800 pounds requires a lot of strength. Let's not forget 2 important things. Wolverine is supposedly able to lift 800lbs with BOTH arms, not just one. That elevator is WELL beyond 800lbs. That's multi-ton.

Originally posted by cybermaster
just one slash from wolverine and id say spiderman wouldnt last for along time cause he doesnt have a healing ability. but wolverine would have a hassel doing that to him cause spiderman is faster

apparently...

........ not fast enough...

Originally posted by jinzin
firelord trying to fight peter in h2h is circumstantial
firelord trying not to fight hi with his best weapon was circumstatial
firelord holding back for spidey was circumstantial.
the building drop on his head was lucky and a plot device.. nothing strategic about it...
the explosion at the gas station.. again.. lucky.... and a plot device...

Yes. The circumstance was that Spider-Man lead him around like a matador dealing with a raging bull.

Originally posted by jinzin
I didn't deny that peter used tactics/strategy... but he didn't win on those alone.. he had plenty of plot devices there to aid him...

I'm glad you're not denying the obvious, but these reasons and Spider-Man's vast experience are really what won the day. You can argue if you want...just hold that thought on "plot devices" for a bit, will you?

Originally posted by jinzin
why you're attempting to argue i don't even know.. you must be bitter from me continuously proving you wrong...

And you must be punch drunk from getting smacked around so often on these forums. 😆

Originally posted by jinzin
(i'm stilll waiting for you to quote me on saying that roughouse is comparible to hulk....) 🙄

Here...

Originally posted by jinzin
class 70 or 80 close enough...

"Close enough" is a comparison. You are saying that he is comparable to the Hulk. Don't fence with me. You're bad at it.

Originally posted by jinzin
I didn't call it PIS.. 😕

Right. You just call it "plot devices". Well, call it PIS, CIS, plot devices, deus ex machina...whatever. Poe-tay-toe. Poh-tot-oh. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Did I mention you're a bad fencer? 😛

Originally posted by jinzin
infact I'm one of the few people who defend that event as one of non PIS occurance... 🤨

Right. Just like you did here...
Originally posted by jinzin
firelord trying to fight peter in h2h is circumstantial
firelord trying not to fight hi with his best weapon was circumstatial
firelord holding back for spidey was circumstantial.
the building drop on his head was lucky and a plot device.. nothing strategic about it...
the explosion at the gas station.. again.. lucky.... and a plot device...

Originally posted by jinzin
that doesn't change the fact that peter won using a buttload of circumstances and plot devices that he wouldn't get in a fight on the forum...

Wait, I just thought you said it wasn't a plot element, that is, that it's not "plot induced stupidity". Are you confused, or just playing both ends against the middle?
Originally posted by jinzin
well you're certainly showing your quality there.. of the very lowest... but while I don't have crayons to draw you a map let me try and explain it for you... you said spiderman outsmarted firelord.. I partially agree to that due to the fact that firelord made some rash desicions that simply weren't smart there...

Well, I wonder what quality you're showing by implying that I need a map drawn in crayon. Best not to claim moral outrage and then try for a low blow in that manner, in my experience. No matter. You've conceded throughout your post that tactics, smarts, and strategy played a role in Spider-Man's victory over Firelord. That's enough for me. 💃

Originally posted by scotsmn
Not only did he hold it, he caught it after it had already gained some momentum.. which is even harder.

Couldn't have fallen that far; the space in the cables is almost exactly as far apart as his arms allow. That doesn't imply a very far drop to me at all. If you'd like to put up more scans showing your point, however, you're welcome to.
Originally posted by scotsmn
"dangling" 800 pounds requires a lot of strength. Let's not forget 2 important things. Wolverine is supposedly able to lift 800lbs with BOTH arms, not just one. That elevator is WELL beyond 800lbs. That's multi-ton.

Wolverine isn't lifting it at all. His arms aren't bent, even in the slightest. And I'm not so sure that the elevator is multi-ton. Most cars aren't even multi-ton, and they actually have engines in them.

Originally posted by jinzin
........ not fast enough...

That's both weird and badly done. How did Wolverine go from being upright and facing Spiderman, to being inverted with his back turned to him with his foot in his crotch? That's totally unclear. Are there missing scenes? What issue is that, even?