Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Melnorme1,019 pages

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike

Also, he(Jinzin) is misinterperting CIS.

SELF IMPOSED MENTAL LIMITS. NOT fighting worse because he's stupid.

This includes codes of conduct not to kill. But Spidey would forgo that if he lost MJ or his aunt.


I agree with you on all counts. I don't think Spider-Man is a killer, but except for the circumstances you described, where he might be a bit more flexible on that rule.

That was my interpretation of how the rules of engagement for this forum worked as well. Thank you for lending your point of view to this. 🙂

hmmm

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Originally posted by Melnorme
I agree with you on all counts. I don't think Spider-Man is a killer, but except for the circumstances you described, where he might be a bit more flexible on that rule.

That was my interpretation of how the rules of engagement for this forum worked as well. Thank you for lending your point of view to this. 🙂

i agree there that hes not a killer he takes care of things that are important and all that. wolverine goes after anything that gets in his way which is why i think he is cooler.

Re: true

Originally posted by cybermaster
i agree there that hes not a killer he takes care of things that are important and all that. wolverine goes after anything that gets in his way which is why i think he is cooler.

You know the coolest thing I saw Wolverine do recently? In The Other, after MJ witnessed Peter's death, she went back to the Tower to make arrangements with the other Avengers. Wolverine took her aside, and made an apparently serious play for her. He was more or less saying, "Hey look, now that your husband's dead, let's hook up." MJ was shocked and disgusted, and more-or-less stormed off, fuming and hateful towards Logan. When asked why he acted like that by a teammate, he said something to the effect that, "All she has now is pain, and that can crush a person. I gave her something to hate (meaning himself), and that will help her carry on. Let her hate me, let her want to kill me. It's the least I can do to help her grieve."

That was one of the better Wolverine moments I've seen in a long time. Very complex, a little messed up in the head...excellent characterization.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wait...am I reading this right?

Are you still under the assumption that if Spiderman fights according to KMC Bloodlust rules that he'll fight like he's blinded with rage?

They're two different things, man. And I know you know this.

not really.. I mean after going back and looking over these rules that people keep trying to throw around on this forum... I came to the conclusion that bloodlust is really a contradicting rule for spiderman's character... sorry but it's true.. maybe the rules need to be changed if they are not to your liking but the fact is they ARE indeed open to interpretation and if spiderman is subjected to bloodlust he must stay in character, according to his character however, he fights like crap...

Originally posted by Melnorme
Yes, and you are saying that by the Bloodlust rule, Wolverine will fight better and Spider-Man will fight worse, thus causing him to fight like a completely different character. You concede that this is bias. Thank you for your honesty.

and you said arguing with me was comparible to arguing with a child....

all you ever say is "i win" you just have a fancier way of saying it.. 😉

anyways... nawwwwwww (lol) see the thing is this.... wolverine when in bloodlust DOES fight better.... ✅
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spiderman.. does not...❌
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neither are using limited abilities.. both are in character.. and cis is being applied.... if it's biased.. then the only reason this is so, is because it's not in spiderman's favor....

Originally posted by Melnorme
First off, Spider-Man has shown that he is more dangerous when he's angry, not less. This claim is bogus.

....you mean like when he got angry with cap? 😱
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Originally posted by Melnorme
Secondly, Bloodlust doesn't even mean "fighting like a crazy lunatic with no regard for self". It means "almost merciless", with the "almost" still checked by factors like a code against killing, or fighting using uncharacteristic weapons, etc.

really? funny, I thought it meant...
"It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. "
spiderman uses all his powers still? check....
spiderman's in character? check.
spiderman fights like poop when angry? big check...

Originally posted by Melnorme
Please. Other people are saying the same thing that I am. Why continue this charade?
what charade? I'm sick of people like you pretending that dd got some KO on a technicality that has no sufficient proof to back it up. I'm tired of rules being tossed into these fights but only applied to one part and not the other... you guys want to nitpick while you apply these rules? very well.. but the door swings both ways on this and again.. you're appealing to the popular vote... funny how the popular vote is the spiderman one... I thought we already went over this.. 🙄

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike

SELF IMPOSED MENTAL LIMITS. NOT fighting worse because he's stupid.

This includes codes of conduct not to kill. But Spidey would forgo that if he lost MJ or his aunt.

actually you're misinterpreting what argument I'm supporting by using cis...

basically... if spiderman's in bloodlust he's fighting like crap.. if he's fighting to the best of his abilities but in character.. then that's were cis comes in.. in that he holds back/doesn't kill/ and the whole bit that spidey fans are always bitchin about...

I'm not trying to imply that bloodlust is = to cis (though I apologize if it sounds that way)
I understand that spiderman fighting like crap while angry is not a self imposed mental limitation the equivolent of what cis describes.. nor is that my argument...

oh my god did anyone read Spiderman Black Cat Evil that men do?

Black Cat kicks Spideys ass and one issue later Daredevil.
Okay Spidey didnt fight Black Cat but this is no apologize that she handled him like a rookie. And against Daredevil they were controlled.
But hell Spidey gave him direct punches and Daredevil still fought.
Ok there was no winner because both were almost koed.
But is this some comc law that SPidey gets ass kicked by guys without Super Strength and Speed?

Now I feel like the Hulk fans when he is fighting Wolverine.

Crap everywhere.

(But Black Cat is so damn hot)

agreed on your point about the black cat.... meeeeeooooowwww! drool

argh now I need a shower again 😆

Originally posted by Arahan
oh my god did anyone read Spiderman Black Cat Evil that men do?

Black Cat kicks Spideys ass and one issue later Daredevil.
Okay Spidey didnt fight Black Cat but this is no apologize that she handled him like a rookie. And against Daredevil they were controlled.
But hell Spidey gave him direct punches and Daredevil still fought.
Ok there was no winner because both were almost koed.
But is this some comc law that SPidey gets ass kicked by guys without Super Strength and Speed?

Now I feel like the Hulk fans when he is fighting Wolverine.

Crap everywhere.

(But Black Cat is so damn hot)

lol yea...

Originally posted by wolverine8888
hmmm

Pfft. Tame. 😛

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spidershould win this fight

God why won't this thread die!!!!

lets compain to admin u got connections right

Spidey wins. All he have to do is to hold wolerine's wrists. End of fight.

I am a big spidey fan & wolverine is great as well. In a battle between both if it went long I would have to go with wolverine because spidey would have to stop & catch his breath to often. Wolverine is the ultimate warrior (no pun intended)

New powers Spiderman SMOKES Wolverine!

it would be awesome i always wanted to see one has anyone got a comic and a sacnner, if so can u put it on,

Spider-Man wins, the fight wouldn't drag on too long. All he has to do is break his neck like he could've in the crossover, or he could web him up with his fist to his head like in the MTU. Plus new amped up Spider-Man beats Wolvie before he can even go sknirt