Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by samishe1,019 pages
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Thank you, Samishe. I think I covered everything there. Of course, people will still argue, but the big ones that debated that Wolverine beat Spider-Man also said Wolverine could beat Superman, so I think all the angles are covered. Wolverine is "the best at what he does" but what he's best at is taking on normal guys, and doing covert ops, not taking down Class 100 characters.

True, but don't worry about it, some people will never stop argueing. And nothing in the world could change their opinion.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Maybe but it's not like Hulk hits Wolverine and they both sit there and wait for Logan to heal; nope Logan is up and moving almost instantly. Not that it matters, one hit from the Hulk is more damage then Spider-man could dish out in a week.

In one hit Hulk might dish out 100 ton punch on logan. Assuming spidey is doing ten ton punches (Probably closer to fifteen) thats ten punches he needs to do in around the same amount of time the Hulk does one if he needs to have a simallar effect on wolverine.

In Spider-man Unlimited 13, Ben Reilly beats the scorpion by punching him several times in a couple of seconds. He also comments on how his spider-sense allows him to land quickly blow after blow whilst Gargan couldn't land a punch. Gargan is way faster than Logan, in fact he is almost as fast or faster than spidey, yet spidey managed to dodge him.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
So then you're stuck, aren't you? You see, Wolverine fighting Hulk is a joke. All that's gonna happen is Hulk is gonna get scratched here and there, and that's the end. The reason Spider-Man can take the Hulk is because he knows how to beat the Hulk. You simply have to do something to knock him straight out. Spidey knew how to do it, and it's not the first time he's beaten Hulk by outsmarting him. Remember the gamma virus that I mentioned earlier? It made Hulk go into a mindless rage, like when he took on Onslaught. Spider-Man pushed him into a psychic overload, which reverted him back to Professor Hulk. So, it's not the first time that Spider-Man has won.
Here's when Spider-Man outsmarted him:
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk10tn.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk27hm.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk37fp.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk47ye.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk56ti.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk64gm.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk70ax.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk86ye.jpg

This is what one finger of Spider-Man can do:
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Amazing_Spider-Man_32-03.jpg

Notice one of the people in this pic
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6906/bio0058en.jpg
Spider-man would land 12 punches before Wolverine could land one little scratch.

He could also throw Wolverine
http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=331wz.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finger5ms.jpg

Don't even dare say that Spider-Man's durability is under Wolverine. This would kill Wolverine.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44805.jpg

Didn't Wolverine get knocked out in three hits from Juggernaut? Let's count the punches.
http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanjuggy7ec.jpg
I counted seven. Spider-Man was still awake. Just a bit dizzy.

Also, Spider man is fifteen times more agile than a normal person, and his reflexes are forty times faster. Spidey has also beaten:
Punisher (who Wolverine has trouble with)
Deadpool (who Wolverine has only beaten once, and don't argue with that, because you've already been proven wrong)
He punked EVERY member of the X-Men
Titania
Morlun
Iron Man 2020
Hulk
Masterson Thor
and many more.

Not only can Wolverine not win without bad writing, but he's severely outclassed here. Yeah, there have been crossovers, blah blah blah, but PIS is not allowed in these arguments, and all the pics I brought up have already been debated by people who are much smarter than you, and aren't PIS. So, you can take your repetitive arguments and what not and go somewhere else with them, because Wolverine hasn't done anything that isn't out of Spider-Man's abilities. Any of your arguments from this point forward will just be repitition of someone who thought Superman would lose to Wolverine.

How in the hell is punking every member of the X-Men not PIS? 🙄

Originally posted by batdude123
How in the hell is punking every member of the X-Men not PIS? 🙄

depends on the situation it occurred in, only parts of the fight in secret wars was P.I.S. How he beat Rogue was P.I.S I agree, but how he beat Nightcrawler and wolverine was perfectly feasible.

Originally posted by willRules
depends on the situation it occurred in, only parts of the fight in secret wars was P.I.S. How he beat Rogue was P.I.S I agree, but how he beat Nightcrawler and wolverine was perfectly feasible.

Did he actually manage to beat Cyclops, Iceman, Jean Grey, etc.? If he did, then that is MAJOR PIR (Plot Induced Retardation).

I can't believe this thread is still going strong. Wolverine is a cool character with a lot of attitude and heart, but without PIS, CIS or Batdude's PIR, Logan is completely outclassed. Spidey wins.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
So then you're stuck, aren't you? You see, Wolverine fighting Hulk is a joke. All that's gonna happen is Hulk is gonna get scratched here and there, and that's the end. The reason Spider-Man can take the Hulk is because he knows how to beat the Hulk. You simply have to do something to knock him straight out. Spidey knew how to do it, and it's not the first time he's beaten Hulk by outsmarting him. Remember the gamma virus that I mentioned earlier? It made Hulk go into a mindless rage, like when he took on Onslaught. Spider-Man pushed him into a psychic overload, which reverted him back to Professor Hulk. So, it's not the first time that Spider-Man has won.
Here's when Spider-Man outsmarted him:
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk10tn.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk27hm.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk37fp.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk47ye.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk56ti.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk64gm.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk70ax.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk86ye.jpg

This is what one finger of Spider-Man can do:
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Amazing_Spider-Man_32-03.jpg

Notice one of the people in this pic
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6906/bio0058en.jpg
Spider-man would land 12 punches before Wolverine could land one little scratch.

He could also throw Wolverine
http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=331wz.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finger5ms.jpg

Don't even dare say that Spider-Man's durability is under Wolverine. This would kill Wolverine.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44805.jpg

Didn't Wolverine get knocked out in three hits from Juggernaut? Let's count the punches.
http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanjuggy7ec.jpg
I counted seven. Spider-Man was still awake. Just a bit dizzy.

Also, Spider man is fifteen times more agile than a normal person, and his reflexes are forty times faster. Spidey has also beaten:
Punisher (who Wolverine has trouble with)
Deadpool (who Wolverine has only beaten once, and don't argue with that, because you've already been proven wrong)
He punked EVERY member of the X-Men
Titania
Morlun
Iron Man 2020
Hulk
Masterson Thor
and many more.

Not only can Wolverine not win without bad writing, but he's severely outclassed here. Yeah, there have been crossovers, blah blah blah, but PIS is not allowed in these arguments, and all the pics I brought up have already been debated by people who are much smarter than you, and aren't PIS. So, you can take your repetitive arguments and what not and go somewhere else with them, because Wolverine hasn't done anything that isn't out of Spider-Man's abilities. Any of your arguments from this point forward will just be repitition of someone who thought Superman would lose to Wolverine.

*sigh*

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
So then you're stuck, aren't you? You see, Wolverine fighting Hulk is a joke. All that's gonna happen is Hulk is gonna get scratched here and there, and that's the end. The reason Spider-Man can take the Hulk is because he knows how to beat the Hulk. You simply have to do something to knock him straight out. Spidey knew how to do it, and it's not the first time he's beaten Hulk by outsmarting him. Remember the gamma virus that I mentioned earlier? It made Hulk go into a mindless rage, like when he took on Onslaught. Spider-Man pushed him into a psychic overload, which reverted him back to Professor Hulk. So, it's not the first time that Spider-Man has won.
Here's when Spider-Man outsmarted him:
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk10tn.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk27hm.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk37fp.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk47ye.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk56ti.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk64gm.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk70ax.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvshulk86ye.jpg

This is what one finger of Spider-Man can do:
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Amazing_Spider-Man_32-03.jpg

Notice one of the people in this pic
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6906/bio0058en.jpg
Spider-man would land 12 punches before Wolverine could land one little scratch.

He could also throw Wolverine
http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=331wz.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finger5ms.jpg

Don't even dare say that Spider-Man's durability is under Wolverine. This would kill Wolverine.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44805.jpg

Didn't Wolverine get knocked out in three hits from Juggernaut? Let's count the punches.
http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanjuggy7ec.jpg
I counted seven. Spider-Man was still awake. Just a bit dizzy.

Also, Spider man is fifteen times more agile than a normal person, and his reflexes are forty times faster. Spidey has also beaten:
Punisher (who Wolverine has trouble with)
Deadpool (who Wolverine has only beaten once, and don't argue with that, because you've already been proven wrong)
He punked EVERY member of the X-Men
Titania
Morlun
Iron Man 2020
Hulk
Masterson Thor
and many more.

Not only can Wolverine not win without bad writing, but he's severely outclassed here. Yeah, there have been crossovers, blah blah blah, but PIS is not allowed in these arguments, and all the pics I brought up have already been debated by people who are much smarter than you, and aren't PIS. So, you can take your repetitive arguments and what not and go somewhere else with them, because Wolverine hasn't done anything that isn't out of Spider-Man's abilities. Any of your arguments from this point forward will just be repitition of someone who thought Superman would lose to Wolverine.

Okay now, the Hulk is beaten by being crushed underneath a truck. Now you do know who the Hulk is don't you? Perhaps you can explain to me why this feat isn't PIS, you can start with give one reasonable explanation as to why Hulk was koed by that attack.

Now unto the Spider-man vs Juggy fight. So Spider-man, a character that has been physically beaten by Puma (a class 25 character) some how takes a barrage of attacks from a heavy hitter like Juggy... and is barely stunned? How is this not PIS? Remember what Spider-man looked like after fighting Morlun? 'Cause that's what one hit from Juggy would do to him. Seriously can you honestly tell me that you believe Spider-man can take a hit from Juggernaut with out becoming a fine paste on his massive fist? And to thing you have the gull to grill cap it up...

Why is that Thor feat impressive? Thor even said he was just trying to get Spider-man's attention... he clearly wasn't trying to do more then briefly stun Spider-man. Three cheers for Spider-man's durability! 🙄

I could be wrong but didn't Wolverine take a direct blast from Storm when she possessed Mjolnir?

Just curious, who are these "smarter" people who debated this feats and decided that they weren't PIS? You know what, it doesn't matter but you can tell them for me to take off their Spider-man bed sheets and open up their eyes.

Also still waiting to be proven wrong on the whole Deadpool thing...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Okay now, the Hulk is beaten by being crushed underneath a truck. Now you do know who the Hulk is don't you? Perhaps you can explain to me why this feat isn't PIS, you can start with give one reasonable explanation as to why Hulk was koed by that attack.

Now unto the Spider-man vs Juggy fight. So Spider-man, a character that has been physically beaten by Puma (a class 25 character) some how takes a barrage of attacks from a heavy hitter like Juggy... and is barely stunned? How is this not PIS? Remember what Spider-man looked like after fighting Morlun? 'Cause that's what one hit from Juggy would do to him. Seriously can you honestly tell me that you believe Spider-man can take a hit from Juggernaut with out becoming a fine paste on his massive fist? And to thing you have the gull to grill cap it up...

Why is that Thor feat impressive? Thor even said he was just trying to get Spider-man's attention... he clearly wasn't trying to do more then briefly stun Spider-man. Three cheers for Spider-man's durability! 🙄

I could be wrong but didn't Wolverine take a direct blast from Storm when she possessed Mjolnir?

Just curious, who are these "smarter" people who debated this feats and decided that they weren't PIS? You know what, it doesn't matter but you can tell them for me to take off their Spider-man bed sheets and open up their eyes.

Also still waiting to be proven wrong on the whole Deadpool thing...

You shoud know that Morlun hits effected Spider-man because they drained his energy from him.

Juggernaut on that scan didn't hit Spider-man directly not once. He was distracted so his punches may not fully effected Spider-man.

Funny how you call Spider-man taking punches from Hulk PIS, but you concider that when Wolverine takes his punches is ok.

Originally posted by samishe
You shoud know that Morlun hits effected Spider-man because they drained his energy from him.

Juggernaut on that scan didn't hit Spider-man directly not once. He was distracted so his punches may not fully effected Spider-man.

Funny how you call Spider-man taking punches from Hulk PIS, but you concider that when Wolverine takes his punches is ok.

At least Wolverine has an adamantium-laced skeleton and an accelerated healing factor. What in Spider-man's repetoire says that one punch from the Hulk wouldn't turn him into Spider paste? 😕

Originally posted by batdude123
At least Wolverine has an adamantium-laced skeleton and an accelerated healing factor. What in Spider-man's repetoire says that one punch from the Hulk wouldn't turn him into Spider paste? 😕

Same should happen with Wolverine's stomach, brains, heart etc.

Originally posted by batdude123
At least Wolverine has an adamantium-laced skeleton and an accelerated healing factor. What in Spider-man's repetoire says that one punch from the Hulk wouldn't turn him into Spider paste? 😕

Superstrength mixed with a decent level of endurance?

That and a spiders exoskeleton makes it durable. If Spidey has ALL of a spiders powers, he'd have incredible durability as well. So no, Spidey taking heavy hits is not really PIS. It's actually PIS that he's not ALREADY bulletproof I'd say...


Okay now, the Hulk is beaten by being crushed underneath a truck.

No, he was beaten by having an entire cement truck crash down on his head. As durable as the Hulk is, the head and neck are still "weak spots". A normal human would've died. Hell, Wolverine would've died. The Hulk was knocked out.

How in the hell is punking every member of the X-Men not PIS?

Because it was showcasing Spider-mans agility and reflexes which have been shown to be well above most Marvel characters?

^ *(to samishe) When has Hulk ever been shown to be smart enough to be a tactical fighter rather than just a straight up brawler? (Besides Professor Hulk)

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Okay now, the Hulk is beaten by being crushed underneath a truck. Now you do know who the Hulk is don't you? Perhaps you can explain to me why this feat isn't PIS, you can start with give one reasonable explanation as to why Hulk was koed by that attack.

Now unto the Spider-man vs Juggy fight. So Spider-man, a character that has been physically beaten by Puma (a class 25 character) some how takes a barrage of attacks from a heavy hitter like Juggy... and is barely stunned? How is this not PIS? Remember what Spider-man looked like after fighting Morlun? 'Cause that's what one hit from Juggy would do to him. Seriously can you honestly tell me that you believe Spider-man can take a hit from Juggernaut with out becoming a fine paste on his massive fist? And to thing you have the gull to grill cap it up...

Why is that Thor feat impressive? Thor even said he was just trying to get Spider-man's attention... he clearly wasn't trying to do more then briefly stun Spider-man. Three cheers for Spider-man's durability! 🙄

I could be wrong but didn't Wolverine take a direct blast from Storm when she possessed Mjolnir?

Just curious, who are these "smarter" people who debated this feats and decided that they weren't PIS? You know what, it doesn't matter but you can tell them for me to take off their Spider-man bed sheets and open up their eyes.

Also still waiting to be proven wrong on the whole Deadpool thing...

1. Already told you. Spider-Man knows how to revert Hulk to Banner.

2. The fight with Morlun: Morlun drains energy out of Spider-Man with every punch he lands. He also didn't land just seven punches. Also, Spider-man was severely weakened from a curse. There goes your Morlun argument. Also, He's taken hits from Juggernaut, Hulk on more than one occasion, and so forth and just been dazed. Why? Very good durability.

3. Smarter people? How about Scoobless, The Kahn, Grey Fox, and Digimark. You wanna debate the Authority, then go ahead. Have fun getting your butt handed to you.

4. Deadpool fights: I don't enjoy repeating myself, but here you go.
Fight from Deadpool's comic:
http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27086zd.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27099pu.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27103db.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27123pk.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27130ve.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27148pc.jpg
http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27150wy.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27168nw.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27176ew.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27180wr.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool27191zs.jpg
Best at what he does? Yet you yell at me for Frank Castle hitting me in the nuts. Wolverine wins by exploitation.

Fights from Wolverine's comics:
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page019bz.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page02034iq.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page04057tb.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page06078pe.jpg
Two punctured lungs. Wouldn't matter if his healing factor was on the fritz or not. He'd still be unconscious for a while.

Second Fight, the Scourge is with Deadpool. This is the fight where you said they got involved. You're a liar.
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page02032op.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page043un.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page052ih.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page062ls.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page074mq.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page088hs.jpg
CIS on Logan's part. This puts it at Deadpool 2, Logan 1

Last fight. No winner, but Deadpool didn't even get touched.
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155082gf.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine15509101zt.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155114wg.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155138ja.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155141mf.jpg

Record stands as Deadpool 2, Logan 1. You're wrong, and I already posted these. You can try to come up with some sort of excuse, like "he had a cold that day" or some crap like that, but it's just your sad attempt at trying to win an argument that was lost 300 pages ago. In the end, you're no different than the people who argued that Superman would lose to Wolverine. You just have better grammar.

Originally posted by batdude123
^ *(to samishe) When has Hulk ever been shown to be smart enough to be a tactical fighter rather than just a straight up brawler? (Besides Professor Hulk)

Well, every his punch is supposed to be strong enough to turn everything inside of Wolvie into pasta.

Originally posted by samishe
Well, every his punch is supposed to be strong enough to turn everything inside of Wolvie into pasta.

😛 "pasta" 😆

Originally posted by capt it up
cross over are un useable.

You heard it right here, folks. Crossovers are un-usable.

That means we get to throw out all those crappy cross-overs of Wolverine somehow beating Spiderman with his inferior abilities.

And you have capt it up (wolverine8888) to thank for it.

In Spider-man Unlimited 13, Ben Reilly beats the scorpion by punching him several times in a couple of seconds. He also comments on how his spider-sense allows him to land quickly blow after blow whilst Gargan couldn't land a punch. Gargan is way faster than Logan, in fact he is almost as fast or faster than spidey, yet spidey managed to dodge him.

Now imagine instead of scorpion, we have Logan. Imagine filling a bowl up with water, if you move the bowl the water sloshes around in it. Replace the bowl now with an adamantium skull and replace the water with a brain. Imagine the effect of a ten to fifteen ton punch (from spidey) to the skull would have on the brain. Slightly more than a knockout IMO. 🙄

Why hasn't Hulk been able to do this before then? Well there are two possible answers

1) Logan heals so fast its almost as if the blow never landed.
2) the writers in a dastardly plot to keep their sales and profit going, hyped up Logan to make the battle less one sided to favor Hulk.

If 1) is correct then why has much weaker punches from other characters in the past stunned Logan for longer? It simply doesn't work. So by process of elimination, IMO option 2) is correct.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
1. Already told you. Spider-Man knows how to revert Hulk to Banner.

I never argued that fact. What I argued was the fight you show scans of in which Hulk is beaten by having a truck dropped on his head. He should have barely been phased by it.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
2. The fight with Morlun: Morlun drains energy out of Spider-Man with every punch he lands. He also didn't land just seven punches. Also, Spider-man was severely weakened from a curse. There goes your Morlun argument. Also, He's taken hits from Juggernaut, Hulk on more than one occasion, and so forth and just been dazed. Why? Very good durability.

I never commented on the fight with Morlun, I know full well that Morlun did as much damage as he did because he was draining energy. I said that one punch from Juggy would have Spider-man looking way worse then he did after that fight and it would. High end bricks like the Hulk and Juggernaut lift thousands of tons... how do you justify Spider-man a guy who has been taken to the wringer by guys who can lift 25 tons surviving a even a love tap from someone like the Hulk?

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Fights from Wolverine's comics:
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page019bz.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page02034iq.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page04057tb.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page06078pe.jpg
Two punctured lungs. Wouldn't matter if his healing factor was on the fritz or not. He'd still be unconscious for a while.

Unconscious from a puncture lung? Every time you open your mouth, I think you know less and less about Wolverine. The guy takes storms of machine gun fire center mass with out drop, I'm sure some of those punctured his lungs. Lady Death strike stabbed Wolverine in the heart... and he didn't even fall over. In Inner Threat he was infected with a nanovisus that prevented him from healing properly. What did he do? He stabbed him self in the brain with his claws to give his healing factor a real wound to deal with... and he did in the middle of a fight. Unconscious form a puncture lung? Don't make me laugh.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Second Fight, the Scourge is with Deadpool. This is the fight where you said they got involved. You're a liar.
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page02032op.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page043un.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page052ih.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page062ls.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page074mq.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine154page088hs.jpg
CIS on Logan's part. This puts it at Deadpool 2, Logan 1

I never said the team fought Wolverine, what I said is that Deadpool had prep time and a team with him... and he does. What I did say was that it is likely that they there was a fight off panel. Why do I think that? You see that dead guy in front of Wolverine (Reckless Eric), see how he's dead and Wolverine killed him? That must have happened of panel, and then their is the looming smoke that would seem to have come from some sort of explosion. Deadpool wins because he has prep time and Wolverine somehow gets away and they are after him again by the end of the issue?

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Last fight. No winner, but Deadpool didn't even get touched.
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155082gf.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine15509101zt.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155114wg.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155138ja.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine155141mf.jpg

Record stands as Deadpool 2, Logan 1. You're wrong, and I already posted these. You can try to come up with some sort of excuse, like "he had a cold that day" or some crap like that, but it's just your sad attempt at trying to win an argument that was lost 300 pages ago. In the end, you're no different than the people who argued that Superman would lose to Wolverine. You just have better grammar.

This is even a fight. Three attacks are made, one is dodged, one hits and one is blocked.

So... let me get this straight Deadpool is a better fighter because he a) beat Wolverine when Wolverine has no healing factor and b) after Wolverine walked all over him he managed to down him tranqs that he only had with him because prep and has never carried with him before?

Let me clear somethings up. Spidey beating the Hulk w/that truck does smell like PIS to me. Hulk can litterally throw truck into space. His duribility is a good deal higher than that. It's either total PIS or Hulk wasn't really pissed off yet. PIS.

People who say what Spidey did to Wolvie in Secret Wars is PIS are lying to themselves. Can any of them honestly explain how what Spidey did to him (not the rest of the X-Men) is PIS? Spidey's reflexes and speed are waaaaaaaay better than Wolvie's. Spidey has out quicked people who are also faster than Wolvie.