Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Zahit1,019 pages

thanx!!!
The Thanos Death Club will be my experimental industrial music project one day...
I tried starting that club way back in High School, but I was denied....
I probably shouldn't have mentioned the whole "ending half the life
in the universe" goal.

as for wolverine....
he wasn't written that way all the time......only since the advent
of fanboyism did marvel start writing him like that.
he's been knocked-out by a backhand from Juggernaut in the past. that makes sense.
now he takes punches from Hulk and gets right back up. that does not make sense.
wolverine is now the most inconsistently written character of all time.
in one book he's getting kicked across the living room by Daredevil.
in another book, same month, he takes 2 shots by Namor like nothing.
that's just not right.
if I, Thanos of Titan, were the editor-in-chief of Marvel.........

lol....you'll have to keep me posted about the club

well I figure that matt pushed him away more than kicked him; I can leg press like 500 pounds even more when i max out.....DD's a peak human he should be able to push wolverine airborne with ease.....wolverine wasn't hurt by that....just moved away....when he took those shots from namor he had a more grounded stance. I'm not saying that makes it right but it does help explain it somewhat.
Wolverine IMO is kinda like doomsday on a farrrrr lower level.....his brain canceled itself out of it's own memories to protect logan from mental pain....perhaps, it developed somekind of homer simpson syndrome to proetect logans brain from the physical brain....just speculation but it would make a lot of sense out of logan.

wolverine weighs 300 pounds.
daredevil can obviously leg press more than that.
namor can lift 100 tons.
i don't care who grounded logan is...
if he gets punched by someone who can lift 100 tons....he's going flying.
that's one example of why the writing of wolverine has gone too far.

"if he gets punched by someone who can lift 100 tons....he's going flying. that's one example of why the writing of wolverine has gone too far."

personally i agree. but i still stand by what i thought before..... about it being a 1 in a million shot like those people who fall out of the sky without their parachutes and don't die. Now wolverine taking a nuke and getting up.....THAT was too far.

if wolverine got punched by spiderman, peter would be more injured. yes, wolverine would get a concussion, but his healing factor is fast....he has survived 5 adamantium bullets to the head and was still awake. a punch wont do any more damage than that

Originally posted by jinzin
[Bpersonally i agree. but i still stand by what i thought before..... about it being a 1 in a million shot like those people who fall out of the sky without their parachutes and don't die. Now wolverine taking a nuke and getting up.....THAT was too far. [/B]

i would agree with you and give the writers' benefit of the doubt......
but this isn't a one-in-a-million occurance....it happens a lot now.
he takes hits from the Hulk and gets up.....supposedly healing from
his "insides turning to jelly" immediately.
in that graveyard incident, he got punched in the face like 20 times by spidey. and smiled.
in the same issue he got popped by namor, the blazing skull clocked
wolverine good and logan just hit him back without missing a beat...
blazing skull can lift at least 40 tons.

strength is not everything. wolverine is a peak human which makes him very quick and with the healing factor and senses, he is even faster. he is just a little slower than spiderman

Originally posted by WOLVERINEFAN
strength is not everything. wolverine is a peak human which makes him very quick and with the healing factor and senses, he is even faster. he is just a little slower than spiderman

wolverine a LITTLE slower than spiderman??????
hey WOLVERINEFAN, you wouldn't just so happen to be a fanboy now?

Originally posted by Zahit
wolverine weighs 300 pounds.
daredevil can obviously leg press more than that.
namor can lift 100 tons.
i don't care who grounded logan is...
if he gets punched by someone who can lift 100 tons....he's going flying.
that's one example of why the writing of wolverine has gone too far.

The thing is, Wolverine in most cases tend to at most just topple over or be flung over a short distance and not orbit as would one seem and this has been demonstrated for ages with him. I think someone before mentioned that he rolls with the punches. It sure saved Batman's hide with this trick when he peeved Wonder Woman off in Trinity.

a super punch would knock him off balance, but would not knock him out. oh, and the issue where he was shot 5 times in the head was the one where he teamed up with spiderman and daredevil in Hells Kitchen

Originally posted by jinzin
It doesn't matter how wolverine should be written....this is just how wolverine HAS been written. my opinion on the matter is irrelivant. the fact remains....

Well then, Wolverine has been written getting webbed up so he couldn't escape.

all that inexpierence is gonna cost spiderman in this fight. he is always distracted when saying all those cheesy jokes. and ya wolverine is not a LITTLE slower than spidey. mr. parker is about twice as fast

Originally posted by radioboy121
The thing is, Wolverine in most cases tend to at most just topple over or be flung over a short distance and not orbit as would one seem and this has been demonstrated for ages with him. I think someone before mentioned that he rolls with the punches. It sure saved Batman's hide with this trick when he peeved Wonder Woman off in Trinity.

if you read New Invaders #6, you'll see quite clearly
that wolverine did NOT roll with the punches.
in fact, they showed him diving head-first at Namor,
who was holding a steel beam waiting to smack wolverine with it.
now call me crazy but.....
that doesn't exactly sound like something a person who's got
"100 years of experience" and "peak fighting abilities" would do.....
......see what i mean......INCONSISTENT.

Despite his specified experience, his healing factor gives the writers much leeway in allowing his character to take such abuse and then some. There is a point for him to actually use his skills in dodging and whatnot when required and other times to take the punishment to illustrate he's a little toughie.

ya, in the comics, they just show him slashing and getting beat up for most of his fights, just to show that he is tough. but they really should use his fighting skills more

read some of his solo stuff with samurai battles and stuff.
That's some skill

i will. thanks mr. smiley

Originally posted by WOLVERINEFAN
all that inexpierence is gonna cost spiderman in this fight. he is always distracted when saying all those cheesy jokes. and ya wolverine is not a LITTLE slower than spidey. mr. parker is about twice as fast

Twice as fast?

Sigh...

I don't much agree with Wolvie being able to take the kind of punches that he does either, but everyone just needs to get over it. It seems as though everyone's forgotten he was originally written as a Hulk villian.

Either way concussions are something you can heal from, so logically logan should be able to recovery from such things quite quickly.

Originally posted by Zahit
if you read New Invaders #6, you'll see quite clearly
that wolverine did NOT roll with the punches.
in fact, they showed him diving head-first at Namor,
who was holding a steel beam waiting to smack wolverine with it.
now call me crazy but.....
that doesn't exactly sound like something a person who's got
"100 years of experience" and "peak fighting abilities" would do.....
......see what i mean......INCONSISTENT.

Kind of sounds like someone who was mind controlled... moron