Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Arahan1,019 pages
his spider sense was on.. it just didn't work.

Is this some kind of ninja logic? It is on but didnt work? geez.

The SS tingled to things much less dangerous than Wolverine´s
attack.

In one comic Peter dodged while in half sleep state a pillow
attack of MJ from behind.

Originally posted by Creshosk
No ass**** it's your stupidity preventing you from grasping what I was saying shithead.

No, its your flawed logic

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not in the slightest. He's had his flesh burned off so that his joints were exposed, but the skeleton didn't fall apart... at least twice.

In alternate timelines that diverged before the initial bonding process what you say is true, however in alternate timelines that diverge after, we see his intact skeleton not a pile of bones.

Artistic interpertation. The artists drawing Wolverine's skeleton generally only tend to focus on the fact that Wolverine has an adamantium, not his joints.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hulk has failed to pull him apart.

Ok, this I'd like to see

Originally posted by Creshosk
Silversamurai and Shingen both with blows intended to go between the vertebrae

With the intention to hurt, not decapitate

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hell each time Hulk punches him, or spiderman punched him his head doesn't go flying off.

Because they don't aim to do it. Hulk is enraged and is interested in smashing, Spider-Man just wails on his skull. Spider-Man did get the idea. Besides Claremont has eluded to this issue before in an iss of Uncanny X-Men where where Nightcrawler's father was tired of Wolverine. He told his men Wolvie had a healing factor with metal in his bones so he needed to remove his arms at the joints and cauterize them so they won't grow back.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So no Spiderman wouldn't have succeeded.

Whatever makes you sleep at night

spidey wins 8 or 9/10

Originally posted by brainchild81
Has proven he can do alright against a slow & stupid Spidey or one that thinks he's an imposter?

on both occasions when he was holding back and spiderman wasn't....?

Originally posted by Arahan
Is this some kind of ninja logic? It is on but didnt work? geez.

lol.. sorry I haven't been sleeping much lately...
okay let me rephrase...

spider sense- ON
dodging because of spidersense?- didn't work...

OR...

just because he got hit doesn't mean the spider sense was off.... there better?

Originally posted by Arahan
The SS tingled to things much less dangerous than Wolverine´s
attack.

In one comic Peter dodged while in half sleep state a pillow
attack of MJ from behind.

my point exactly.. I was actually going to bring this up... after his spider sense going off there.. what's the use in saying that his spider sense wasn't on every time wolvie hit him?

it's ridiculous to think that spiderman would dodge a pillow attack but ignore his ss during a wolverine attack...

which further brings up the matter that if his ss was off at that point he probably would have brought that up at some point in time.. but he didn't.. wonder why...

I've clearly demonstrated that Spidey was holding back on the rooftop Jinzin. Remember? It's in comic book print, unlike the assumption that Wolvie was holding back before he put the claws in.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I've clearly demonstrated that Spidey was holding back on the rooftop Jinzin. Remember? It's in comic book print, unlike the assumption that Wolvie was holding back before he put the claws in.

it's in comic book print.. AFTER he made his initial attack and got bitchslapped for his troubles... that makes a big difference....

i like how you seem to think that him think wolverine is an imposter means he thought the imposter was harmless... and should just ignore his spider sense alltogether when he got hit.. I mean you would have to think that for your B.S. conclusion to make any sense.. wolverine holding back is obvious... he didn't start the fight (AGAIN) when he had the chance to clearly kill spiderman he didn't....

Originally posted by jinzin
it's in comic book print.. AFTER he made his initial attack and got bitchslapped for his troubles... that makes a big difference....
It would if it were true😆 You might wanna read the page again Jin. Spidey is holding back before anybody lands an attack. You think Spidey was gonna "K a B"?

Originally posted by jinzin
i like how you seem to think that him think wolverine is an imposter means he thought the imposter was harmless... and should just ignore his spider sense alltogether when he got hit.. I mean you would have to think that for your B.S. conclusion to make any sense.. wolverine holding back is obvious... he didn't start the fight (AGAIN) when he had the chance to clearly kill spiderman he didn't....
If your goal was to make me cry........MISSION ACCOMPLISHED 🙁 😆 Is there somewhere where I said Wolvie wasn't holding back on the rooftop(probably not)? They were both holding back.

That part about Wolvie putting the claws in was about the graveyard fight

Originally posted by brainchild81
It would if it were true😆 You might wanna read the page again Jin. Spidey is holding back before anybody lands an attack. You think Spidey was gonna "K a B"?

he was punching hard enough to level brick chimneys and dent metal pipes.. yeah... how much was he holding back again?

Originally posted by brainchild81
If your goal was to make me cry........MISSION ACCOMPLISHED 🙁 😆 Is there somewhere where I said Wolvie wasn't holding back on the rooftop(probably not)? They were both holding back.

That part about Wolvie putting the claws in was about the graveyard fight


I WAS reffering to the graveyard fight... was has soon as I said "wolverine holding back is obvious"
sorry that wasn't more clear.

Originally posted by jinzin
he was punching hard enough to level brick chimneys and dent metal pipes.. yeah... how much was he holding back again?
Spidey can do alot more than damage property Jinzin. He was likely punching the same way he'd do most metas. There's no way to tell exactly how much he held back. All we know is that he did. Again, all ya gotta do is read it & you'll see what I mean. It's written.

Originally posted by jinzin
I WAS reffering to the graveyard fight... was has soon as I said "wolverine holding back is obvious"
sorry that wasn't more clear.
It is obvious..........AFTER he put the claws away.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey can do alot more than damage property Jinzin. He was likely punching the same way he'd do most metas. There's no way to tell exactly how much he held back. All we know is that he did. Again, all ya gotta do is read it & you'll see what I mean. It's written.

read it.. multiple times over.. I would have thought you knew that by now...

The fact is spiderman doesn't comment about holging back until AFTER he makes his initial attack...
does that justify wolverine landing a blow on him? I suppose spiderman LIKES being hit in the face right? or kicked in the gut? or almost stabbed in the jaw... thinking wolverine was an imposter had nothing to do with getting his ass handed to him.

guess that spider sense isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Originally posted by brainchild81
It is obvious..........AFTER he put the claws away.

as long as you admit that it's obvious.. 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
read it.. multiple times over.. I would have thought you knew that by now...
You just didn't remember it as well as I did then

Originally posted by jinzin
The fact is spiderman doesn't comment about holging back until AFTER he makes his initial attack...
So Spidey was planning on killing the imposter then? That sounds like Spidey. What a bastard, always killin' folk & whatnot🙄
Originally posted by jinzin
does that justify wolverine landing a blow on him? I suppose spiderman LIKES being hit in the face right? or kicked in the gut? or almost stabbed in the jaw... thinking wolverine was an imposter had nothing to do with getting his ass handed to him.

guess that spider sense isn't all it's cracked up to be.

or the writer😆 It's kinda like how he used to get by Kingpin in his "younger days"(Cap quote). We all know it shouldn't happen, but it did for the sake of the plot

Originally posted by jinzin
as long as you admit that it's obvious.. 😉
🙂 Yep when Wolvie put the claws back he obviously didn't wanna kill Spidey anymore.

Originally posted by brainchild81
You just didn't remember it as well as I did then
ORLY

Originally posted by brainchild81
So Spidey was planning on killing the imposter then?

not a statement I made so why argue against an argument that doesn't exist?

i said it's never implied that spiderman was holding back at all until After his attack... which is true... your strawmanning doesn't change that fact.

Originally posted by brainchild81
That sounds like Spidey. What a bastard, always killin' folk & whatnot🙄

why would you roll your eyes at an argument that YOu made up 😕 😂

Originally posted by brainchild81
or the writer😆 It's kinda like how he used to get by Kingpin in his "younger days"(Cap quote). We all know it shouldn't happen, but it did for the sake of the plot

ah yes. the ever so popular I don't like it, it didn't happen argument.. wolverine beats spidey it's pis, spidey gets the drop on an entire x-team.. it's gold.. pffft.. whatever..

Originally posted by brainchild81
🙂 Yep when Wolvie put the claws back he obviously didn't wanna kill Spidey anymore.
or at all.. but since you already agreed with my previous statement I'll just leave it at that...

Beast beats Wolverine .....................lol🙂 Its happened.

Originally posted by Soleran
Beast beats Wolverine .....................lol🙂 Its happened.

therefore spiderman gets beat by wolverine...

btw.. wolverine's downed beast in a single panal too...

Originally posted by jinzin
ORLY

not a statement I made so why argue against an argument that doesn't exist?

i said it's never implied that spiderman was holding back at all until After his attack... which is true... your strawmanning doesn't change that fact.

Spidey is well known for holding back though so the semantics don't matter unless you think that @ any point
Spidey was going for the kill. Spidey holding back is pretty much the norm. See pic

Originally posted by jinzin
why would you roll your eyes at an argument that YOu made up 😕 😂

ah yes. the ever so popular I don't like it, it didn't happen argument.. wolverine beats spidey it's pis, spidey gets the drop on an entire x-team.. it's gold.. pffft.. whatever

pffffffffffffffffffffffffffft 😆How can I be using that argument if I never said it or the Kingpin stuff didn't happen? You're not making sense

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey is well known for holding back though so the semantics don't matter

then why bring them up?
"spidey thought he was an imposter"

so that's why he got hit? cause he's not able to dodge people he preceives as imposters?
🙄 riiiiiight....
Inspite of being able to jump out of the way of RANDOM bullets, sneak attacks, and lazer fire due to spider sense?
Maybe he's just not guaranteed to dodge everything wolverine thrwos at him like you seem to imply he would.

unless you think that @ any point

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey was going for the kill. Spidey holding back is pretty much the norm. See pic
you're missing the point...
read above...

Originally posted by brainchild81
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffft 😆How can I be using that argument if I never said it or the Kingpin stuff didn't happen? You're not making sense
well you just said that the only reason wolverine hit him was for the sake of the plot... (inspite of previously stating it was because he thought wolverine was an imposter) basically equating to an argument equivalent to wolverine can't hit spidey.. even though wolverine has hit spiderman multiple times as that's what has happened... (the same way namor got downed by two or three guttings from wolverine)... as have literally one or two DOZEN street level heroes and villians at or below wolverine's level....

so if the only reason spiderman's getting hit is for the sake of the plot, then those characters can't possibly do the things they've already proved they could do.. thus: "i don't like it, it didn't happen".

Originally posted by jinzin
then why bring them up?
"spidey thought he was an imposter"

so that's why he got hit? cause he's not able to dodge people he preceives as imposters?
🙄 riiiiiight....
Inspite of being able to jump out of the way of RANDOM bullets, sneak attacks, and lazer fire due to spider sense?
Maybe he's just not guaranteed to dodge everything wolverine thrwos at him like you seem to imply he would.

unless you think that @ any point
you're missing the point...
read above...

well you just said that the only reason wolverine hit him was for the sake of the plot... (inspite of previously stating it was because he thought wolverine was an imposter)

If you can find me saying that, I'll give you a shining new nickel. I've been trying to avoid using the "bad writing" argument for a while now, doesn't mean it no longer applies. You'll often see me try to cover for the writers like I did when the Hulk somehow lost to a truck.

alright my mistake, i misinterpreted your "it shouldn't happen but it did for the sake of the plot"... quote. still though I don't agree to your rationale for spiderman getting bitchslapped... he couldn't dodge twice.. and he almost got his face cut off... it had nothing to do with him thinking wolverine was an imposter.

the imposter line is just to show Spidey punched nowhere near as hard as he could've. Wolvie would've been sent flying(Like he should when he fights Namor). Care to explain how Wolvie continued to miss in the yard, but was able to connect on the roof?