Originally posted by capt it up
ur post was realy not worth a real counter for sicne all u kept saying is wolverine htting spiderman is crappy writting yet wolverine does it in every encounter were the two have foughten
Ah yes. The tried-and-true "I don't really have a counter but I'll just say that your post was not worth one at all so it looks like I still know what I'm talking about" technique.
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Originally posted by capt it up
actauly wolverien does have enchanced speed
according too whom? I want to see an official printing stating Wolverine has enhanced speed. pictures of him moving fast are not proof becuase writers can and do take liberties, ESPECIALLY with Wolverine.
Marvel handbook 2007 maybe? does it say Wolverine can move faster than normal human physic's allow? and too an extent were it rival's spiderman?
Originally posted by capt it up
u have not read the ruels actauly if shown mulitable tiems in comcis then it becomes facts whcih wolverine has hit spiderman multiable tiems so it is fact.also do u eve know what wolverines agility and reflex are listed as?
Flash have been hit many times. So according to you he is slow and he has bad reflexes. You call THAT facts??!!!
Originally posted by capt it up
no thats my piont. the whole issue was bad writting so to try and use what DD did to wolverine as evidence is retarded sicne what happen to spidemrna was ten times worse lol. i think that issue should never be sued as evdience
Yeah and Wolverine was KOed multiple times as well, by DD, by Punisher, hell even by deer 😂
Originally posted by Marcellus
according too whom? I want to see an official printing stating Wolverine has enhanced speed. pictures of him moving fast are not proof becuase writers can and do take liberties, ESPECIALLY with Wolverine.Marvel handbook 2007 maybe? does it say Wolverine can move faster than normal human physic's allow? and too an extent were it rival's spiderman?
See capt doesn't need Marvel to tell him how fast or strong Wolverine is. Would you like to know why? Because he has read enough of Wolverine appearances to make a realistic an informed oppionion... you might want to look into doing the same.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
See capt doesn't need Marvel to tell him how fast or strong Wolverine is. Would you like to know why? Because he has read enough of Wolverine appearances to make a realistic an informed oppionion... you might want to look into doing the same.
I already stated that Wolverine's writiers take liberties. wonder why he is making claim that a human can keep up with an enhanced human.
So no thanks, I'll tust marvel over fan endused exageration.
Originally posted by Marcellus
I already stated that Wolverine's writiers take liberties. wonder why he is making claim that a human can keep up with an enhanced human.So no thanks, I'll tust marvel over fan endused exageration.
Do you think the hiring process for a author to write an actual issue is more slack the the one for the guy who compiles the bios for the Hand Guides? The hand guides are a joke. They are just thrown out to makes so extra cash from collecters. Half the stuff in them is wrong and is just info rehashed from the old guides... which were also wrong. The only accurate things in the guides are the bios. The comic are the primary cannon for these characters.
So in that sense Wolverine can and will live threw a nuke? I dont think so.
even in the comics is there an explination for some sort of superhuman speed? Wolverine's healing factor, adamantium skeleton and whatever else do not warrant enhanced speed. he is still at best peak human
enhanced human>peak human.
Originally posted by Marcellus
I already stated that Wolverine's writiers take liberties. wonder why he is making claim that a human can keep up with an enhanced human.So no thanks, I'll tust marvel over fan endused exageration.
Actually, srankmissingin is right. Comic books hold more continuity than handbooks. DarkCrawler has proved that again and again and again.
Well I cant argue that, I know the handbook's are not up too date or entierly arcurate.
my point is this. general consensus is that Wolverine is fast, yes I know and agree to that. but Spiderman is faster.
If Wolverine is somehow as fast as Spiderman that has to have an explination.
THAT is what Im really looking for. an issue where Wolverine underwent somthing that actually increased his speed too a point where he was faster than humans are capable of being, and thus in Spiderman's league. If there is such an instance then I will acknowlage it. until then I have to go with Wolverine being at best peak human.
so my mistake on the handbook referrence.
Originally posted by Marcellus
So in that sense Wolverine can and will live threw a nuke? I dont think so.even in the comics is there an explination for some sort of superhuman speed? Wolverine's healing factor, adamantium skeleton and whatever else do not warrant enhanced speed. he is still at best peak human
enhanced human>peak human.
The nuke feat is crap, no one will argue that but we have rules that discont crap like that period.
People get caught up on the term human and what it implies. This is a comic book people, the same restraints to apply here. All sorts of humans have shown the same level of speed Spider-man has just because they are "human" doesn't mean they can't be as fast as Spider-man. Wolverine has shown time and time again that his attributes are low level superhuman, you can ignore them if you'd like but then you aren't debating Spider-man vs Wolverine but Spider-man vs your flawed and bias conception of Wolverine.
Originally posted by Marcellus
Well I cant argue that, I know the handbook's are not up too date or entierly arcurate.my point is this. general consensus is that Wolverine is fast, yes I know and agree to that. but Spiderman is faster.
If Wolverine is somehow as fast as Spiderman that has to have an explination.
THAT is what Im really looking for. an issue where Wolverine underwent somthing that actually increased his speed too a point where he was faster than humans are capable of being, and thus in Spiderman's league. If there is such an instance then I will acknowlage it. until then I have to go with Wolverine being at best peak human.
so my mistake on the handbook referrence.
Well, he's fast because of his mutant abilities. They grant him enhanced speed because of his secondary mutations I believe. He's been shown to go at about 50mph in very short bursts. But you're right, he's definitely not as fast as Spider-man.
Originally posted by batdude123
Well, he's fast because of his mutant abilities. They grant him enhanced speed because of his secondary mutations I believe. He's been shown to go at about 50mph in very short bursts. But you're right, he's definitely not as fast as Spider-man.
thank you for the info, as far as I knew Wolverine didnt undergo the secondary mutation's. thats really all I needed to hear unless he actually gained other abilties.
has he genuinely broke the 800 lb mark? can he lift over a ton?
Originally posted by Marcellus
thank you for the info, as far as I knew Wolverine didnt undergo the secondary mutation's. thats really all I needed to hear unless he actually gained other abilties.has he genuinely broke the 800 lb mark? can he lift over a ton?
Yeah, actually he has. Capt it up has a bunch of scans demonstrating his strenght. It's pretty impressive, but Spider-man is still stronger.