Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

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Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Spiderman takes this.

He is faster, stronger, more agile, and has much better reflexes due to the spider-sense, do not try and compare wolverine's animal senses with the spider-sense, it just does not work out.

Also, if you factor in spiderman's stress factor when he is in a life or death situation, his strength level, which already defeats wolverine's, skyrockets into uncharted territory. Sure it'll be a good fight, but wolverine will not win.


spiderman also no were near as skilled, has no were enar the stamina or durability.

actuly spiderman spdiersense is easiliy compared to hyper sense. hypersense are just as use full.

ya enrage spiderman would die in a matter of seconds. enrage spiderman gets stronger but u forget he fights like a retard when he gets made and would get himself killed.

also wolverine beserker rage makes spiderman rage look like nuthing.

Originally posted by capt it up

ya enrage spiderman would die in a matter of seconds. enrage spiderman gets stronger but u forget he fights like a retard when he gets made and would get himself killed.

Actually...he doesn't:
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3586/spidey32xs.gif

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Actually...he doesn't:
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3586/spidey32xs.gif

thats not enrages spiderman so i don't see the piont and showing me this pick

That IS enraged Spider-Man. You can be angry without fighting like a retard...Venom had just killed a man there. He was pissed off. Like he said "No more chances, dirtbag". And then owned him.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
That IS enraged Spider-Man. You can be angry without fighting like a retard...Venom had just killed a man there. He was pissed off. Like he said "No more chances, dirtbag". And then owned him.

that not the rage jade was speaking about. yes spdierman can fight angrey and still fight smart but the rage jade was speaking about isnot the as the one u showed in the pic. spiderman strength was no stronger in the pic u showed he was made but no in the rage that the other are speaking about.

Originally posted by capt it up
[QUOTE=6464505][i]Originally posted by Sparkz [
[B]Not to mention that the dodgeing of machine gun fire you posted there is wolverine running away looking for a better angle of attack, when spider-man dodges machine gun fire he weaves through it and kicks the crap outa the shooter. The only impressive dodging feat throughout all of that is wolverine dodging living lighting, and none of that shows wolverine has superhuman reflexes, they just show wolverine either antipating an attack with his senses, or running as fast as he can.

DID U EVEN READ THE OTHERE FEATS I POSTED? HELL EVEN THE ONE U COMMENTED ON U PLANLY DID NOT READ IT BECUASE I SAID RIGHT IN IT WOLVERINe LATE RIN THE COMCI CHARGES AND DODGES MICHINE GUN FIRE AS HE CHARGING. THE OTHER FEATS I LISTED ARE WOLVERINE DODGEING LAZERS AND SUCH WHICH IS FAR MORE IMPRESSIVE THEN MACHINE GUN FIRE. U NEED TO READ MY FEAT LIST BEFORE TALKING.

But even so as fast as wolverine is, which is peak human, combined with his senses which makes him appear faster has got nothing on spider-man's speed, who also seems much faster with his spider-sense but he is still a hell of alot faster than wolverine without it.

YUP U PLAINLY KNOW NUTHING ABOUT WOLVERINE. WOLVERINE IS SUPERHUMAN REFLEXES AND AGILITY NOT PEAKHUMAN BUT NICE TRY.

Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS)
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
all thses sources say he superhuman.

And samshie is right if you had a comic of spider-man and he never got hit, would you read it, same reason as if wolverine is so fast he shouldnt get hit either except from people with superior speed and agility such as spider-man, but then wolverine comics would be boring aswell.
NO HE JUST MAKING EXCUSES

And ok I'll give a couple of scenario's now of how spider-man could beat wolverine....

First is an easy one spider-man can just use his superior speed to get near wolverine and burst a web cartridge and throw it at wolverine, the webfluid would then expand to fast for wolverine to cut through and he would then become incapacitated... and oncce it stopped expanding there would be so much webbing engulfing wolverine he couldnt move so he couldn't slash his way out.

NOPE WON"T WORK. FIRST SPIDERMAN NO LOGNER CAN DO THAT SINCE HE NO LONGER USES WEB CARTRIDGES AND SECOND WOLVERINE ARMS SPEED IS SO FAST THAT HE CUT IT TO NUTHIGN WITH NO PROBLEMS.
Second spider-man can keep his distance from wolverine and coat the floor in webbing while spider-man stays in the air while webswinging wolverine would either be stuck to the floor or be to busy getting free from the webbing leaving him open for spidey to throw more webbing on wolvverine so he can't move then spider-man can proceed to kicking the stuffing out of wolverine, it would take a while but eventualy wolverine would be knocked out as he can't move to defend himself from spider-man's blows.

FIRST IT A AREANA BATTLE THERE NUTHIGN FOR SPIDERMAN TO WEB ON TO SECOND WOLEVRINe CAN CUT THE WEBBING ALL AROUND HIM.
Third, as he knows wolverine would survive using his superior reflexes, once againhe could use his new stingers to keep stabbing wolverine while bypassing wolverines attacks, and using shots of webbing to slow wolverine down and stabbing so much he overloads wolverines healing factor leaving him easy pickings to KO.

FIRST OFF SPIDERMAN CAN NOT USE HIS STINGER VS NO MAGICAL BEINGS> SEOCND WOLEVRINE HAS SHOWN REPEATEDLY HE HAS NO TROUBLE HITTING SPIDERMAN
And fourth depending on whether he has them, he could use his sedative stingers ( he only used them once after he became spider-man again after Ben Reily) but he could use them to slow wolverines speed a reflexes, which would also slow wolverines healing factor while its trying to get rid of the sedatives out of his body leaving him open to a barrage of punches from the webspinner, granted it wouldnt be a big or a very long opening but it would be enough to cause some damage.
DUDE THAT WOULD NOT EVEN EFFECT WOLVERINE. SECOND NO IN SPIDERMANS STANDERED EQUIPTMENT.

So there you have it theres aload of scenarios where spider-man would win, now where are wolverines I ask you? [/

ALL UR SCENERIOS WOULD NEVER WORK AND MSOT OF THEM DO NOT WORK ON THIS TYPE OF BATTLE FIELD AND WOUDL NOT WORK EITHER WAY.
SCENERIO ARE USE LESS I COULD MAKE UP HUNDREDS BUT HARD FACT IS MUCH BETTER THEN WHAT PEOPLE LIKE TO MAKE UP IN THERE HEADS. [/B]

Since when do sharp pointy objects only effect magical beings? otherwise how would wolverine be able to kill spider-man with his claws because spider-man isnt a magical being. And just because spider-man dosen't have webshooters anymore dosen't mean he got rid of his webcartridges, and wolverine wouldnt be fast enough to cut through the amount of webbing that would be produced, it would be more effective than impact webbing and venom couldnt cut through tht he had to use brute strength, and I read all your feats what you have posted half the time is wolverine just running out the way, then you say "on the next page wolverine does something impressive".
And we don't even know what kind of arena they are fighting in so how do you know there is nothing for spider-man to web onto.
and note when I say the webbing is to distract him, while wolverine is cutting out of it spider-man is dealing damage, if you couldnt move your arms could you cut the webbing, no i dnt think so.

you say my scenarios don't work because "wolverine can cut through his webbing" when I clearly stated spider-man webs him to distract him to then proceed to web him more effectivly so he cant move yet you ignore that then say he can cut through the webbing.

And ok then if you have hundreds of scenarios where wolverine wins humor me and give me one. unless of course you don't have one and your just saying these things.

Oh come ON, 643 pages on this?? are you serious??

Spiderman is class 10 and can flip circles around Wolverine.

Spiderman owned the whole team of Xmen by himself WITH Wolverine in it, and this thread is 643 pages?? There's no contest here.

Too many fanboys.

If you just tried to say that spiderman is nowhere near as durable as wolverine, I think you need to take a look at Spiderman's battle with Morlun, both of them, or maybe his battles with Hulk... Sure wolverine might be more durable, but not by much, and this doesn't mean he's going to win, it means he can take hits better, but Spiderman will be hitting him harder and doing more damage than wolverine.

And as for the rage, that was close to a rage for Spiderman, and Cap, if you're going to say he fights like a retard when enraged, you need to show proof, because every time I have ever seen Spiderman go into a rage, his opponent stands little chance of victory, he gets stronger, faster, and even more calculating if that's possible.

Just because wolverine could beat Peter Parker in a sword fight and has more martial arts under his belt doesn't mean those fighting skills are superior to Spiderman's. He is the more skilled fighter, but as is mentioned time and again on Marvel's official website and handbook on Spiderman, he has invented his own style unique in the Marvel Universe that is capable of matching virtually any foe toe to toe.

Spider-man Is stronger then Wolverine. He is smarter then Wolverine. (Wolverine is a good tactition but Spidey is as well). He is quicker then Wolverine. And now he has enhanced keen sense abilities like Wolverine. So he's practicaly got him in every stat.
And If you wanna talk examples, in the ultimate universe Wolverine has been beaton by Venom whilst Spidey as kid beat him. I'd have to go through my collection to find you other scanned examples.

Originally posted by capt it up
so if u ahd a ehaling factor u could dodge bullets? dude ur a retard if u truely believe the shit that comes out of ur mouth.
first wolverine is superhuman reflexes and agility and is many tiems faster then any human .
wolevrine like from the pcis ive shown can dodge bullets and lazer ect. ur pethetic excuse saying u could do it if u ha da ehaling factor is the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life.

wait so no the only reason spiderman gets hit in comics is so they look good? do u honestly here what comes out of ur mouth? please im begging to know if u think about what u say before u say it.

Jumping of the way of bullets and dodging them are different things. Almost every comic characters avoided bullets in his career, like Batman and yes if i had healing factor I would be capable of facing guns without being affraid to be killed. Jumping of the way of bullets when they are not a threat for you is NOT a big deal. It's like dodging in paintball.

The only pathetic thing here is your crazy fanboism. Dude, you should pay attention to the real world sometimes. If you did you would realise what makes people buy comix, it's ACTION. If Spider-man was beating Green Goblin without getting hurt it won't be interesting, same comes to Wolverine. I can't imagine how STUPID one must be not to understand it.

Originally posted by capt it up
FIRST SPIDERMAN PUNCHING WOLVERINE IN THE THROTE WOULD NEVER KO HIM. SECODN WOLVERINE WOULD NEVER ALLOWS SPIDERMAN TO WEB HIM TO THE GROUND

It worked for DD. Spider-man punches like 30 times harder.
And like Spider-man would ask Wolverine if he wants to be webbed to the ground, he'll slap him so hard that Logan would fly ten feet back and web him before he stands up.

And i'm still waiting for you to give logical not fanboish scenario of how could Wolverine win this.

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Since when do sharp pointy objects only effect magical beings? otherwise how would wolverine be able to kill spider-man with his claws

HAVE U READ SPIDERMAN LATLY? SPIDERMAN STINGER ONLY COMER OUT WHEN HE IS VSING A MAGICAL BEING OR A PEROSN WHO HAS MAGIC POWERS. SPIDERMAN CAN NOT CONTROL WHEN HIS STINGERS COME OUT THEY ONLY COME OUT WHEN MAGIC ATATCKAS HIM OR WHEN EH ATTACKING A MAGICAL BEING>
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ecause spider-man isnt a magical being. And just because spider-man dosen't have webshooters anymore dosen't mean he got rid of his webcartridges,

ACTAULY IT MROE THEN LIKLY DOES MEAN HE HAS> THEY COST MONEY QUITE A BIT OF MONEY, ALSO SICNE SPIDERMAN HAS NOT BEEN SHOWN TO USE THEM IN QUITE SOME TIME THEN THEY ARE NO LONGER PART OF HIS ARSENAL.

and wolverine wouldnt be fast enough to cut through the amount of webbing that would be produced, it would be more effective than impact webbing and venom couldnt cut through tht he had to use brute strength, and I read all your feats what you have posted half the time is wolverine just running out the way, then you say "on the next page wolverine does something impressive".

ACTAULY U HAVE NO READ THEM PLEASE PIONT OUT WHICH ONES ARNT IMPRESSIVE. PLEASE IM BEGGING U TO TELL ME WHAT HAPPEN IN THOSE ISSUE U HAVE NEVER EVEN READ. ALSO WOLVERINE AHS SHOWN REPEATLY HE CAN CUT BULELTS IN AIR HE CAN CUT PEOPLE SO FATS NO ONE EVEN KNOWS HE AHS MOVED. WOLVERINE IS EASILIY FATS ENOUGH TO CUT SPIDERMANS WEBBING.

And we don't even know what kind of arena they are fighting in so how do you know there is nothing for spider-man to web onto.
and note when I say the webbing is to distract him, while wolverine is cutting out of it spider-man is dealing damage, if you couldnt move your arms could you cut the webbing, no i dnt think so.
THING IS SPIDERMAN WILL NEEVR GET WOLVERINE WEBBED UP. WOLVERINE EASILIY FAST ENOUGH TO DODGE OR CUT SPIDERMANS WEBBING. MY AGILITY AND REFLEX FEATS PROVE IT

you say my scenarios don't work because "wolverine can cut through his webbing" when I clearly stated spider-man webs him to distract him to then proceed to web him more effectivly so he cant move yet you ignore that then say he can cut through the webbing.

BECUASE THAT MAKES NO SENSE SINCE AS SOON AS THE WEBBING IS SHOT AT WOLEVRINE IT WILL BE CUT BEFORE IT HITS HIS BODY. WOLVERINE ALSO COUDL EAISLIY DODGE IT.

And ok then if you have hundreds of scenarios where wolverine wins humor me and give me one. unless of course you don't have one and your just saying these things. [/QUOTE]

ok the fight starts out wolverine run at spiderman spiderman shots webign at wolverine whcih wolverine easiliy dodges and then spiderman leaps side ways into the air and wolverine stabbs him liek he did in issue 14 of marvel knights spiderman.

Originally posted by DBZ MAN
Spider-man Is stronger then Wolverine. He is smarter then Wolverine. (Wolverine is a good tactition but Spidey is as well). He is quicker then Wolverine. And now he has enhanced keen sense abilities like Wolverine. So he's practicaly got him in every stat.
And If you wanna talk examples, in the ultimate universe Wolverine has been beaton by Venom whilst Spidey as kid beat him. I'd have to go through my collection to find you other scanned examples.

ultimate is not 616. also I can show u scanns of spidemran losing to 616 wolevrine so ur little ultimate scanns ar epiont less. also if u did not know in ultimate universe spiderman looks up to ultimate wolverine.

spidermans smarter. wow big deal there fighting in when it comes to fighting intel wolverine out classes him.

strength ya thats good but wolverine far more durable

Originally posted by samishe
Jumping of the way of bullets and dodging them are different things. Almost every comic characters avoided bullets in his career, like Batman and yes if i had healing factor I would be capable of facing guns without being affraid to be killed. Jumping of the way of bullets when they are not a threat for you is NOT a big deal. It's like dodging in paintball.

FIRST OFF IF U AHD A HEALING FACTOR U WOULD NOT WANT TO GET SHOT U PASS OUT FROM THE SHOCK. ALSO WOLEVRIEN DOES NOT AVIOD BULELTS MSOT OF THOSE FEATS I POSTED WAS WOLVERIEN CHARGING PEOPLE AND DODGEING THE BULELTS AND LAZERS AS HE CHARGED. HELL DD HAS EVEN COMMENT ON WOLVERINE DODGING ABILTIES BEFORE.

The only pathetic thing here is your crazy fanboism. Dude, you should pay attention to the real world sometimes. If you did you would realise what makes people buy comix, it's ACTION. If Spider-man was beating Green Goblin without getting hurt it won't be interesting, same comes to Wolverine. I can't imagine how STUPID one must be not to understand it.


NOPE UR TRYING TO MAKE LAME EXCUSES FOR SPIDERMAN AND UR LETTING UR BIAS GET THE BETTER OF U. U CAN THINK SPIDERMAN WINS THAT COOLD BUT TO THINK WOLEVERINE COULD NEVER TOUCH HIM IS BEEING BEYOND BIAS

Originally posted by samishe
It worked for DD. Spider-man punches like 30 times harder.
And like Spider-man would ask Wolverine if he wants to be webbed to the ground, he'll slap him so hard that Logan would fly ten feet back and web him before he stands up.

And i'm still waiting for you to give logical not fanboish scenario of how could Wolverine win this.


IT WORKED FOR DD? are u talking about the crap ennis wrote? oh so punisher tricking spiderman into believeing fake bombs are real is good wrighting? punisher in that issue punked spiderman like 5 times

Originally posted by capt it up
NOPE UR TRYING TO MAKE LAME EXCUSES FOR SPIDERMAN AND UR LETTING UR BIAS GET THE BETTER OF U. U CAN THINK SPIDERMAN WINS THAT COOLD BUT TO THINK WOLEVERINE COULD NEVER TOUCH HIM IS BEEING BEYOND BIAS

No it's being realistic. You only excuse is that Wolverine touched him in comix and that is a bright example of what I told you before. Even Flash gets hit in comix and that means NOTHING on this forum if you read the rules.

And push "caps lock" button again, whill ya?

Originally posted by capt it up
IT WORKED FOR DD? are u talking about the crap ennis wrote? oh so punisher tricking spiderman into believeing fake bombs are real is good wrighting? punisher in that issue punked spiderman like 5 times

So when it comes to Wolverine it's bad writing but when to Spider-man it all right??

And scenario please.

Originally posted by capt it up
spiderman also no were near as skilled, has no were enar the stamina or durability.

IMO his skill is negated by the fact that he shouldn't be able to touch peter. Whilst logan has the stamina and durability he doesn't have the reflexes to avoid over several fifteen ton punches to the belly per second. Or for that matter the reflexes or stamina to avoid a mouthful of webbing. Or better yet both of these things 🙂

Originally posted by capt it up
actuly spiderman spdiersense is easiliy compared to hyper sense. hypersense are just as use full.

Assuming wolvie can utilise his hypersense really quickly what use would they be to him? And for that matter he wouldn't be able to utilise it as fast as spidey uses his spider-sense.

Originally posted by capt it up
ya enrage spiderman would die in a matter of seconds. enrage spiderman gets stronger but u forget he fights like a retard when he gets made and would get himself killed.

Nope ❌ check Darkcrawler's scan.

Originally posted by capt it up
also wolverine beserker rage makes spiderman rage look like nuthing.

That's assuming the guy who is waaaayyyy faster stronger, more agile, better reflexes etc gives logan a chance to get angry, or for that matter lets logan hit him.

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
If you just tried to say that spiderman is nowhere near as durable as wolverine, I think you need to take a look at Spiderman's battle with Morlun, both of them, or maybe his battles with Hulk... Sure wolverine might be more durable, but not by much, and this doesn't mean he's going to win, it means he can take hits better, but Spiderman will be hitting him harder and doing more damage than wolverine.

SPDIERMAN WILL EB DOING MORE DAMAGE? NOW A PUNCH FROM SPIDERMAN IS MORE DMAAGE THEN WOLVERINES CLAWS LOL?
ALSO WOLVERIEN IS FAR MORE DURABLE. WOLVEIRNE LETT SPIDERMAN REPEATEDLY BASH HIS FACE INTO A TOMB STONE AND SMILED<U THINK IF SPIDERMAN LET WOLVERINE DO THAT THAT HE WOULD BE SMILING? OR EVEN STILL AWAKE? SPIDERMAN NEVER SHOWS TO TAKE FULL HITS FROM HULK NORMALY. AND AT BEST SPIDERMAN CAN TAKE ONE SHOT FROM HULK NOT MULTIABLE ONES

And as for the rage, that was close to a rage for Spiderman, and Cap, if you're going to say he fights like a retard when enraged, you need to show proof, because every time I have ever seen Spiderman go into a rage, his opponent stands little chance of victory, he gets stronger, faster, and even more calculating if that's possible.

YA RIGHT IVE READ HIS FIGHTS WITH MORLUN HE GOES NUTS AND JUST UNLOADS ON THE PERSON. WHICH IS GOOD VS SOME ONE LIKE MORLUN BUT WITH WOLVERINE HE GET HIMS ELF STABBED.

Just because wolverine could beat Peter Parker in a sword fight and has more martial arts under his belt doesn't mean those fighting skills are superior to Spiderman's. He is the more skilled fighter, but as is mentioned time and again on Marvel's official website and handbook on Spiderman, he has invented his own style unique in the Marvel Universe that is capable of matching virtually any foe toe to toe.

how is wolverines fighting skill not superior? if u took both there powers away spiderman would never win vs wolverine.

"Peter Parker in a sword fight and has more martial arts under " that a huge udnerstatement trying many many many many many times more.

wolverine also has his own fighting style and he created hims elf after learn most every style in the world so trying to say spiderman is as skilled is a joke. no spiderman with his power is as effective but not nearly as skilled.

Originally posted by willRules
IMO his skill is negated by the fact that he shouldn't be able to touch peter. Whilst logan has the stamina and durability he doesn't have the reflexes to avoid over several fifteen ton punches to the belly per second. Or for that matter the reflexes or stamina to avoid a mouthful of webbing. Or better yet both of these things 🙂

YET HE AS SHOWN IS IS QUITE ABLE TIEM AND TIME AGAIN.

Assuming wolvie can utilise his hypersense really quickly what use would they be to him? And for that matter he wouldn't be able to utilise it as fast as spidey uses his spider-sense.

NOT TRUE HE AHS BEEN ABLE TO USE IT SO FAST HE WAS ABLE TO DODGE LAZER BECUASE OF IT.

Nope ❌ check Darkcrawler's scan.

WHICH SCANN IS THAT?

That's assuming the guy who is waaaayyyy faster stronger, more agile, better reflexes etc gives logan a chance to get angry, or for that matter lets logan hit him.


HE IS NO WAY MROE AGILE NRO IS HE MUCH FAST NOR IS HIS REFLEX MUCH QUICKER AS SPIDERMAN HIM SELF HAS THOUGHT WOLVERINE WAS FASTER THEN HIM AT A TIME