Originally posted by Dayscribe
So your saying movement speed is closer, but the reactions are quicker with Spidey? Just trying to figure it out.
yes more or less... guys like batman and cap are well within spiderman's range of actual speed.. but because spiderman has precognition he's able to react to things much quicker.. thus he appears faster than he really is.
Originally posted by riceroost
Apparantly Wolverine is neither a mutant or a superhero. He is simply the living, breathing representation of PIS.I suppose Wolverine throwing a dumpster, Wolverine holding up an elevator, Wolverine throwing Colossus like a rag doll, and Wolverine using a tree like a baseball bat are all PIS.
Only problem is all 4 of those feats are written by different writers.
Are we also to assume that all 4 times Wolverine has hit Spider-Man it was PIS too?
Oh wait, all 4 of those issues were written by different writers too.
Damn Wolvie is PIS. Peter Porker wins.
No your right lets say 15 feats over what 25 years really makes a strong impression on strngth feats.
Originally posted by jinzin
yes more or less... guys like batman and cap are well within spiderman's range of actual speed.. but because spiderman has precognition he's able to react to things much quicker.. thus he appears faster than he really is.
Hmm. Makes sense. I'd probably say Spidey 6/10, pending no CIS.
Originally posted by samishe
And you asked for feats, here you go.
You once said that Spider-man claimed that Wolverine is faster than him. Well here according to him he lifts weight that Thor couldn't. 🙄 So what?http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36536ox.gif
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36543pt.gifDodges machine fire that comes from many directions without breaking a swet. Wonder if Logan would dare to do that if he hadn't his healing factor. 🙄
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6386/1534uv.jpg
One webcartrege holds blob, wonder how much time it'd take Logan to cut outta there. He'd most likely run outa O2 before he manages.
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvsblob16xu.jpg
Spider-man dodges multiple lasers in a small space with easy.
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38539sa.png
Strength feat Wolverine could only dream about.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5571426
LOL Spider-man's finger is stronger than Wolverine.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Amazing_Spider-Man_32-03.jpg
"And you asked for feats, here you go.
You once said that Spider-man claimed that Wolverine is faster than him. Well here according to him he lifts weight that Thor couldn't. 🙄 So what?
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36536ox.gif
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36543pt.gif"
what this prove? that spiderman can lift 15 tons? also my piont was that spiderman him self thoguht wolverine may be faster then him which is not true, but wolverine showed he is quite fast enough to keep up with spiderman
(spiderman vs wolverine #1)
"Dodges machine fire that comes from many directions without breaking a swet. Wonder if Logan would dare to do that if he hadn't his healing factor. 🙄
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6386/1534uv.jpg"
again why does this matter if wolverine can heal or not u trying to say spidermans braver?
also this feat just as good
(wolverine #97) wolverine while fight a bunch of guys in metal suits manages to while charging one to not be hit by a single bullet and when the guy is firing at him with two very high powered machine guns.
"One webcartrege holds blob, wonder how much time it'd take Logan to cut outta there. He'd most likely run outa O2 before he manages.
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvsblob16xu.jpg"
first off spidemrna has yet to shwo that he still carries around webcartreges. also this is the only time shown that spidemran has done some thing such as this.
harly matter though since wolverines far to fast to ever get caught by some thing that moves that slow
Speed feat. Wolverine is pretty dam fast. He is faster then human eye can see at times.
http://img145.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc54&image=22730_fast.jpg
"Spider-man dodges multiple lasers in a small space with easy.
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38539sa.png"
my feats better wolverine dodges army of people firing lazer at him
marvel team-up Spiderman and wolverine #117) wolverine using his agility and reflex and fighting skill takes out army of guys while dodging lasers, which is even mentioned in the text.
"Strength feat Wolverine could only dream about.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5571426
LOL Spider-man's finger is stronger than Wolverine.
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Amazing_Spider-Man_32-03.jpg"
first we already know spidemrans stronger then wolverine. I don't see u piont since wolverine durability is far greater then spiderman
as shown in this issue
(The New Invaders #6 enemy of the state tie-in) wolverine fight Namor and takes a few hits from Namor and keeps coming and wins the match, This is Namor and wolverine second fight with eachother. also wolverine win this fight.
also us aid spiderman fingure is stornger then wolverine? that thats very doubtful and that feat does not show that at all. also what was the piont of that pic
oh.. well i wouldn't expect that he would... but then again I wouldn't expect wolverine to fight like one either.. the whole beating four super computers at chess simultaneously while coming up with complicated battle plans in a comprehensed time frame while in a berserker rage kinda negates the possibility of that...
Originally posted by SoleranWolverine's strength combined with his metal skeleton are suficient to knock out level 5 durability. He may not be as strong as Spider-Man, but he is still strong enough to cave in Spidey's skull if he hits him. Peter can't say the same.
Your right however his low end Strength feats aren't his strong point and very moot against spiderman really.
Originally posted by jinzinI can't believe I'm going to argue with one of the only 2 people that back me up. Anyway:
well I don't think he'd cave in spidey's skull but he'd definitely do some damage to the guy.
If Wolverine can punch Rogue through brick walls and knock out Roughouse how could he not break Spider-Man's skull?
Originally posted by riceroost
I can't believe I'm going to argue with one of the only 2 people that back me up. Anyway:If Wolverine can punch Rogue through brick walls and knock out Roughouse how could he not break Spider-Man's skull?
for the same exact reason that spiderman doesn't crush human skulls when he hits them.... wolverine will never land a direct hit that spidey won't be rolling with.
I mean hell, hulk breaks planetoids but he doesn't cave in spiderman's skull when he hits them.. don't get me wrong I think wolverine can KO spidey with fists and kicks.. but cave in his skull?
no.. I mean venom can't do it, wolverine definitely can't...
no if we put spiderman's head against an unbreakable wall and spiderman isn't allowed to move... maybe.. wolverine's punched down a titanium door... but even then I have my doubts.. though I think he could break bones I doubt he could crush spidey's skull....
Originally posted by capt it up
first off. wolverien retracted his claws. he even had the claw in front of were spiderman was aim, wolevrien let spiderman hit him it simple as that.the other time u are speaking about wolverine also let spideyman him him. if wolverine was not he would of pulled his claws out sicne he reflex would atuo do it unless he was stoping him self.
All that pic showed me when he had his claws in front of him was wolverine was trying to block the punch because he knew it was coming but couldnt do anything about it, I suppose its up for interpretation... and the other just because he didnt pull his claws out didnt mean he let spider-man hit him after all spidey did ctach him off guard, after all if some1 is on the floor bleeding you arent going to expect them to get up and attack full force, besides he probaly didnt have his claws out because he wasnt planning on fighting, but once spider-man attacked he couldnt defend himself untill he could have a few seconds breather which spider-man didnt let him have...untill he passed out.
Originally posted by Sparkz
All that pic showed me when he had his claws in front of him was wolverine was trying to block the punch because he knew it was coming but couldnt do anything about it, I suppose its up for interpretation... and the other just because he didnt pull his claws out didnt mean he let spider-man hit him after all spidey did ctach him off guard, after all if some1 is on the floor bleeding you arent going to expect them to get up and attack full force, besides he probaly didnt have his claws out because he wasnt planning on fighting, but once spider-man attacked he couldnt defend himself untill he could have a few seconds breather which spider-man didnt let him have...untill he passed out.
first look at the picture it clearly shows that wolverine had his claws out and right infron or were spidy was throwing his punch. this is no debatably if u look spidy hit wolverien on the side of the face right were wolverien had his claws a moment before.
also the second fight u revering to wolverinie clealry let spiderman punch him. look it a reflex for wolverines claws to come out if spiderman simple caught wolverine of guar dhis claws would of poped out and he would of poped out pritty quickly. also if u notice wolevrien is just grapping his had letting spiderman hit him. he also talking during teh whole thing so pelase tell me how that not letting spiderman hit him?
Originally posted by jinzin
yeah it does... it puts him well within the speed class of peter...
Well thats where I disagree. I don't think that because spidey is quick enough to dodge a bullet, and wolverine is, that puts them anywhere near each other in terms of speed. True it does mean they could be classed as fast enough to do that, but so could the silver surfer who is ridiculously faster than both of them.
Originally posted by jinzin
no i'm calling you a hypocrite because you think that spiderman dodging shit means he's too fast for wolverine to hit when wolverine dodges the same damn crap.. also I never said, nor implied that spiderman was slower than wolverine.. so check your facts before you go around making claims.
hey don't go getting your knickers in a twist, you can't expect to accuse me of being a hypocrite and not expect me to respond. And thinking that spidey dodges things wolvie can also dodge isn't the only reason why I think spidey is fast enough to dodge Logan, you are putting words in my mouth.
Originally posted by jinzin
CIS isn't excempt from these fights though... 😕
It kinda is...........
Originally posted by Tron
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability
This means that finally some of the stronger characters Logan fights will suddenly stop acting like retards when figthing him............
