Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by willRules
Well thats where I disagree. I don't think that because spidey is quick enough to dodge a bullet, and wolverine is, that puts them anywhere near each other in terms of speed. True it does mean they could be classed as fast enough to do that, but so could the silver surfer who is ridiculously faster than both of them.

Every speed feat that Spider-man that has shown his speed to be superhuman Wolverine has also (the same can be said for Cap and DD). So why is that Spider-man is too fast for Wolverine to hit? It certainly isn't because feats show Spider-man to be too fast or even that Wolverine's feat show that he is too slow. No the only argument that anyone can come up with as to why Spider-man is faster then Wolverine is because Woverine "is only human". People need to get past the conception that the title human somehow places physical restraints on a character because that clearly isn't the case.

Originally posted by capt it up
first look at the picture it clearly shows that wolverine had his claws out and right infron or were spidy was throwing his punch. this is no debatably if u look spidy hit wolverien on the side of the face right were wolverien had his claws a moment before.

also the second fight u revering to wolverinie clealry let spiderman punch him. look it a reflex for wolverines claws to come out if spiderman simple caught wolverine of guar dhis claws would of poped out and he would of poped out pritty quickly. also if u notice wolevrien is just grapping his had letting spiderman hit him. he also talking during teh whole thing so pelase tell me how that not letting spiderman hit him?

I suppose your half right, at first he was caught off guard and then after the first few punches because he knew he had done wrong wolverine wasnt fighting back.

Who said Wolverine is only human ? 😕 (whispers) he's a mutant !

Originally posted by willRules
This means that finally some of the stronger characters Logan fights will suddenly stop acting like retards when figthing him............

The best of his/her abilities not the best someone else could do with the same abilities. All these characters all have personalities that they maintain in these fights. Spider-man has a strict moral code that causes him to hold back the strength he puts behind his punches, he doesn't suddenly lose this when we debate on this forum as it is an integral part of his character (Silver Surfer and Superman both have similar restrictions the place on them selves).

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The best of his/her abilities not the best someone else could do with the same abilities. All these characters all have personalities that they maintain in these fights. Spider-man has a strict moral code that causes him to hold back the strength he puts behind his punches, he doesn't suddenly lose this when we debate on this forum as it is an integral part of his character (Silver Surfer and Superman both have similar restrictions the place on them selves).

Why would he ?

Originally posted by willRules

big difference between herald and street level and street level and street level.. big difference.. the point is spiderman dodges a lot of crap so people think wolverine can't hit him when wolverine dodges the same crap but then it's assumed spiderman can in turn hit wolverine it makes no sense...

Originally posted by willRules

no... no it's not..

"Events of CIS are not exempt from debates"

Originally posted by jinzin
big difference between herald and street level and street level and street level.. big difference.. the point is spiderman dodges a lot of crap so people think wolverine can't hit him when wolverine dodges the same crap but then it's assumed spiderman can in turn hit wolverine it makes no sense...

I see your reasoning but I don't only base why I think spidey is way faster on that, but other feats, th fact he will be performing at his best, and his stats....

lol Spiderman performing at his best! Whats this.................no it cannot be, the only spiderman you can present is the spiderman that gets hit by street lvl'rs !

Originally posted by Soleran
lol Spiderman performing at his best! Whats this.................no it cannot be, the only spiderman you can present is the spiderman that gets hit by street lvl'rs !

Street levels heroes whos best speed feats are on par with Spider-man's... so what your point?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Street levels heroes whos best speed feats are on par with Spider-man's... so what your point?

I wasn't refering to street level hero's but thugs etc etc........its my dopest illenist way of using humor except it sucked and I messed it up.

Originally posted by Soleran
I wasn't refering to street level hero's but thugs etc etc........its my dopest illenist way of using humor except it sucked and I messed it up.

Hehe 😄

Originally posted by capt it up
"And you asked for feats, here you go.
You once said that Spider-man claimed that Wolverine is faster than him. Well here according to him he lifts weight that Thor couldn't. 🙄 So what?

http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36536ox.gif
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36543pt.gif"

what this prove? that spiderman can lift 15 tons? also my piont was that spiderman him self thoguht wolverine may be faster then him which is not true, but wolverine showed he is quite fast enough to keep up with spiderman

(spiderman vs wolverine #1)

"Dodges machine fire that comes from many directions without breaking a swet. Wonder if Logan would dare to do that if he hadn't his healing factor. 🙄

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6386/1534uv.jpg"

again why does this matter if wolverine can heal or not u trying to say spidermans braver?

also this feat just as good
(wolverine #97) wolverine while fight a bunch of guys in metal suits manages to while charging one to not be hit by a single bullet and when the guy is firing at him with two very high powered machine guns.

"One webcartrege holds blob, wonder how much time it'd take Logan to cut outta there. He'd most likely run outa O2 before he manages.

http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvsblob16xu.jpg"

first off spidemrna has yet to shwo that he still carries around webcartreges. also this is the only time shown that spidemran has done some thing such as this.
harly matter though since wolverines far to fast to ever get caught by some thing that moves that slow
Speed feat. Wolverine is pretty dam fast. He is faster then human eye can see at times.
http://img145.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc54&image=22730_fast.jpg

"Spider-man dodges multiple lasers in a small space with easy.

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38539sa.png"

my feats better wolverine dodges army of people firing lazer at him

marvel team-up Spiderman and wolverine #117) wolverine using his agility and reflex and fighting skill takes out army of guys while dodging lasers, which is even mentioned in the text.

"Strength feat Wolverine could only dream about.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5571426

LOL Spider-man's finger is stronger than Wolverine.

http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Amazing_Spider-Man_32-03.jpg"

first we already know spidemrans stronger then wolverine. I don't see u piont since wolverine durability is far greater then spiderman

as shown in this issue

(The New Invaders #6 enemy of the state tie-in) wolverine fight Namor and takes a few hits from Namor and keeps coming and wins the match, This is Namor and wolverine second fight with eachother. also wolverine win this fight.

also us aid spiderman fingure is stornger then wolverine? that thats very doubtful and that feat does not show that at all. also what was the piont of that pic

I showed those feats because of the same reason you showed yours. You didn't proved that Wolverine wins this fight, you only proved that he is taugh. So I proved in respone that Spider-man is taugher in every aspect.

OK let's put it this way. Punching speed of martial arts master is at max 30meters/s. You claimed that Wolverine's punches are a lot faster than of normal human, ok. Lets concider they are 5 times faster(what is very doubtfull BTW). So it will be 150 meters/s. Speed of fired bullet is 896 meters/s and more. Spider-man reacts at multiple bullets that shot from the VERY close range easilly. Now again tell me, why couldn't he react at Wolverines attacks that are MUCH slower than that?

Originally posted by jinzin

big difference between herald and street level and street level and street level.. big difference.. the point is spiderman dodges a lot of crap so people think wolverine can't hit him when wolverine dodges the same crap but then it's assumed spiderman can in turn hit wolverine it makes no sense...

spiderman is faster, stronger, more agile and has spidey sense. spiderman wins 7.5/10

What do you have a Dictonary of Marvel heros and their statistics stashed under your bed?

This thread is never going to end.

Over 13,000 posts and still strong.

Originally posted by batdude123
This thread is never going to end.

....yes....and? 😐

Originally posted by brainchild81
If you look @ their encounters closely enough you'll see it though. In the graveyard Spidey was able to connect almost everytime he tried. Wolvie was able to evade one or two attacks. I think I remember him dodging a double legged upperkick or something, but once Spidey started tracking Wolvie w/the SS he connected @ will. Wolvie was unable to connect. I already know & respect your theory about Wolvie trying to scare Spidey away, but that's not something that can be proven or disproven. Thus, we'll have to go by what we see(Wolvie swingin' & missin' + Spidey swingin' & hittin'😉. In Secret wars Spidey evaded Wolvie easily and pimp smacked him. I also know the theory that Wolvie was aiming @ the obliques and other non-fatal spots. That can't be proven or disproven either but what we do know is that even if he was aiming for those spots, he still missed them because Spidey's too fast. Things seem to say that it's easier for Spidey to hit Wolvie than the other way around.

yep I don't disagree with that last bit whatsoever...
but to say spiderman's straight up untouchable by wolverine when wolverine's already proven he can hit spiderman while aiming for center mass.. well. that's a bit of a stretch IMO.