Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

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capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Sam Z
That's what I wanted you to do.

I know you did. I love how you think your being so sneaky, but in reality I new what you were up too the whole time.

Originally posted by Sam Z
It's funny how everytime Wolverine gets beaten or KOed you have to find an excuse for that.

No not at all actually. If you used non PIS examples then I would make no excuse. Your only examples were either written by Ennis who is known for PIS and by the way neither one of those examples was wolverine KOed. The only other example you showed were the juggernaut one in which wolverine was not even written as a mutant yet let lone a healing factor. Your last example was of thing knocking wolverine out with a single hit which is not really PIS, but rather a one time deal since evidence after evidence shows other wise.

Originally posted by Sam Z
The fact the Wolverine was KOed before by streetlevelers,

Such as? Please give some names and issue numbers.

Originally posted by Sam Z
he took two punches from Juggernaut and then got KOed with a slap.

Seriously can’t you find any better examples then to use one of wolverine before he was written with a healing factor and as mutant.

Originally posted by Sam Z
You talk about his durability but Spider-man also took multiple punches from Hulk and Juggernaut.

Can you prove he taken more then two hits form either? Also are you really trying to say spidermans durability is even close to on par with wolverine, when wolverine ahs taken repeated hits from sas, hulk and a number of other high level characters.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Spider-man doesn't has skills of DD but he has speed that is greater than speed of both DD and Wolverine and strength, so i don't see any reason why he can't hit him in the throat but 50 times harder and KO.

When has spiderman ever aimed for the throat in a fight? Can you even show one example of spiderman punching some one in the throat? Also again your using a PIS feat as an example. First of all the writer is none for PIS, secondly the whole series was PIS after PIS. Thirdly Spiderman got punked by wolverine in it. Fourthly there is evidence after evidence that show that the attack DD did on wolverine would not have fazed him let alone effected him so, but of course you ignore all this.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Yes I'm gonna use it as proof because

You have no better argument and you enjoy using PIS events as evidence even though they are no valid evidence.

Originally posted by Sam Z
everytime WOlverine does something that you like you use it as proof

Really? You are so far from correct it is not even funny. You don’t see me using venom on the run or the new wolverine cival war as evidence. You don’t see me using the time wolverine punked spiderman in the Ennis series the one in which you love to show DD hitting wolverine in the throat. You don’t see me using wolverine slamming spiderman in to a tree such as in spiderman issue with wendigo. So were do you get off saying this shit when youa re the one that trying to use non fights as evidence such as when spiderman through wolverine through a window.

Originally posted by Sam Z
but when something you don't like it is PIS.

Not at all the only things I said were PIS, were PIS and were written by Ennis.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Wolverine being KOed doesn't make sense to you

? when did I ever say it does not make sense? Now your just putting words in my mouth.

Originally posted by Sam Z
but when Spider-man is scared to die and scared of Wolverine it makes sense to you.

Dam right it makes sense. Spiderman just saw wolverine murder many people in cold blood. He also has never foughten some one so deadly before who could keep up with his movements. Not to mention when spiderman saw wolverine kill all those people he was smiling. This was also young spiderman he was no as experience as he is now. Also wolverine has a history I scaring his a opponents. So ya it does make sense.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Wolverine can be KOed by streetlevelers and with attack like to the throat or to the balls.

Both events were PIS and are proven to be PIS filled comics, not to mention wolverine constant feats say that is not possible. Also you do realize neither of those attacks KOed wolverine.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Spider-man has everything what it takes to hit him.

And wolverine has ever thing “that” it takes to hit spiderman as well.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Speed - Spider-man

What use is running speed in combat unless you’re a speed stir and even then with out the reflexes to match your screwed.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Strength - Spider-man

True spiderman is stronger how ever spiderman only chance of KOing wolverine would be to constantly pound on wolverine and even then his track record is quite bad at being able to KO Logan.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Skills - Wolverine

Correct

Originally posted by Sam Z
(and it doesn't matter when opponent is stronger and faster than you)

Really now? How many fights have you been in? I have won fights from purly being more skilled fighter and more durable even though my opponent was faster and stronger.
Also I guaranty an old master of the marital arts, who I am stronger then and faster then would still kick my ass. Skill is ever thing, just because your faster and stronger does in no way mean you will win the fight.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Agility - Spider-man

The edge is so slight that it would make no differences in this battle. Wolverine can easily fallow Spiderman’s movement and wolverine feats are comparable to Spiderman’s

Originally posted by Sam Z
Senses - Spider-man

Not really actually since the senses are totally different. Wolverines senses can do a lot more things then spider sense. Both how ever can sense attacks before they are made so Spiderman really has no edge here and if Spiderman does have an edge it is extremely slight at best.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Reflexes - Spider-man

Again if spiderman has a edge it is extremely slight and would not matter in this battle. Wolverine reflexes can easily keep up with Spiderman’s and wolverine feats are equally as impressive.

Originally posted by Sam Z
The only real advantage Wolverine has is durability

How do you figure this? Wolverine has a huge stamina edge which would be extremely helpful in this battle. Wolverine also has a huge skill edge which would also be extremely useful in this battle not to mention wolverine’s huge experience edge. There is also wolverine tactical advantage which would certainly aid him in this battle as well.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and he still was KOed before

That is certainly true how ever he ahs never once been KO by the likes of spiderman.
Originally posted by Sam Z
and even by characters that are weaker than Spider-man.

Such as?

Originally posted by Sam Z
The outcome - Spider-man wins.

No not at all. That is your opinion how ever I disagree and I feel Logan would take the win.

Murda Ma$e ...
Originally posted by capt it up
I can’t believe you like using Ennis crap so much.

Ennis is one of the best new comic writers in the biz.

How can you call his writing crap?

Well, everyone has their own opion not matter how wrong it is.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Murda Ma$e
Ennis is one of the best new comic writers in the biz.

How can you call his writing crap?

Well, everyone has their own opion not matter how wrong it is.

ennis is one of the best punisher writters how ever he is not the best writter for other characters.. it is well known fact he hates super powered character and he is known to write them terrably when in punisher comics. He is known to writte PIS filled comic when writting punisher vs any one.

Murda Ma$e ...
Originally posted by capt it up
ennis is one of the best punisher writters how ever he is not the best writter for other characters.. it is well known fact he hates super powered character and he is known to write them terrably when in punisher comics. He is known to writte PIS filled comic when writting punisher vs any one.

Have you read more of his work then Punisher?

He's writen many characters very well.

Oh, PIS is just soemthing this CBR made up, alot of people don't know what the hell that it is.

Its just comics exagerated stuff happens all the time.

lft4ded the Desert Moon

Originally posted by jinzin
that's funny cause spiderman doesn't disagree...

he didn't take wolverine out.. 🤨
the fight ended in a stalemate.. a stalemate in which logan held back and spiderman didn't... a stalemate in which logan could have killed spidey and spidey couldn't kill logan... spidey didn't do anything there but annoy wolverine...

Was Spider-Man sick in that fight. The way that he said 'Mary Jane' in the wavey word balloon, along with the way he said that Wolverine was affecting his head, and that his Spider-sense was slow, lead me to believe that he wasn't in top form for their cemetary fight.

Because the characters don't agree or disagree means nothing. Wolverine agreed that Spider-Man could break his neck and stop him. If the character's are right then Spider-Man was in a position to kill him.

Really, as surely as Wolverine can swivel his head to the left or right, Spider-Man can continue to swivel around for a complete 360.

Broly92 Bow to Amc or else?

They both have a heart attack by how stupid this thread is for going this long and die rip rip

Sam Z Restricted

First of all I want to pay your attention that you used word "PIS" like 10 times during this post. And as I said, it is a cheap excuse.

Originally posted by capt it up
I know you did. I love how you think your being so sneaky, but in reality I new what you were up too the whole time.

fear Man my bad lol

Originally posted by capt it up

No not at all actually. If you used non PIS examples then I would make no excuse. Your only examples were either written by Ennis who is known for PIS and by the way neither one of those examples was wolverine KOed. The only other example you showed were the juggernaut one in which wolverine was not even written as a mutant yet let lone a healing factor. Your last example was of thing knocking wolverine out with a single hit which is not really PIS, but rather a one time deal since evidence after evidence shows other wise.
Yeah right, the truth is that you have excuses for every book where Wolverine fails to do something. When he gets pwned by Cyclops in h2h fight and Wolverine also uses claws but his "spider-man-like" speed doesn't helps him, or that he gets pwned by deadpool pretty often, even if Deadpool doesn't leaves him uncouncious he always cuts Wolverine first. Interesting fact for someone with Wolverine's speed and skills. It is always PIS, badwriting or one time deal. You can't judge correctly because you base yourself on your limitless love to the character. I don't care, call it PIS CIS etc but that are comicbook fact you don't want to accept and it is only your problem.

Originally posted by capt it up

Such as? Please give some names and issue numbers.

I gave you scans. But you as usually prefere to whine.

Originally posted by capt it up

Seriously can’t you find any better examples then to use one of wolverine before he was written with a healing factor and as mutant.
I gave you many examples, but you have cheap excuses for everything.

Originally posted by capt it up

Can you prove he taken more then two hits form either? Also are you really trying to say spidermans durability is even close to on par with wolverine, when wolverine ahs taken repeated hits from sas, hulk and a number of other high level characters.
Remeber when Spider-man was on Juggernauts back? Juggernaut hit him like 5 times. And I'm not trying to say he has better durability and I told you that in my previous post.

Originally posted by capt it up

When has spiderman ever aimed for the throat in a fight? Can you even show one example of spiderman punching some one in the throat?
😆 Ok so now you are going to base your self on that Spider-man is to kind to puch in the throat. lol That "argument" sounds familliar and is hillarious because this is comicbook vs forum. If you are really going to base yourself on his kindness, good luck with that.

Originally posted by capt it up

You have no better argument and you enjoy using PIS events as evidence even though they are no valid evidence.

Also again your using a PIS feat as an example. First of all the writer is none for PIS, secondly the whole series was PIS after PIS. Thirdly Spiderman got punked by wolverine in it. Fourthly there is evidence after evidence that show that the attack DD did on wolverine would not have fazed him let alone effected him so, but of course you ignore all this.

Funny how you scream about PIS but think that Spider-man that is scared of Wolverine is just fine written story. I'm using not a PIS, I'm using canon story where Wolverine got owned and I don't care what happened next. You always like saying "don't trust directories, books are really inmportant" and this way you prove that he is not pick human, ok. Books say that Wolverine can be beaten with hit in the throat by characters much weaker than Spider-man and by hit in the balls or by slap from Juggernaut and books also say that he can't even stab Cyclops that isn't even using his powers and that Deapool is faster than Wolverine. Want go by the books fine, here you go. And don't even bother givving cheap excuses, i don't care. I know that Wolverine can be KOed by streetlevelers and his speed is not close to Spider-man's.

Originally posted by capt it up

Really? You are so far from correct it is not even funny. You don’t see me using venom on the run or the new wolverine cival war as evidence. You don’t see me using the time wolverine punked spiderman in the Ennis series the one in which you love to show DD hitting wolverine in the throat. You don’t see me using wolverine slamming spiderman in to a tree such as in spiderman issue with wendigo. So were do you get off saying this shit when youa re the one that trying to use non fights as evidence such as when spiderman through wolverine through a window.

You don't using that book because it would mean you accept that DD KOing Wolverine is fine, so you have nothing to be proud about, you do it only for your personal benefit, I never used window thing and what's wrong with Venom? I pnly use canon story books that you hate and call PIS only because your beloved Wolverine gets pwned there.

Originally posted by capt it up

Not at all the only things I said were PIS, were PIS and were written by Ennis..
And you have excuses for everything else.

Originally posted by capt it up

? when did I ever say it does not make sense? Now your just putting words in my mouth.
Dam right it makes sense. Spiderman just saw wolverine murder many people in cold blood. He also has never foughten some one so deadly before who could keep up with his movements. Not to mention when spiderman saw wolverine kill all those people he was smiling. This was also young spiderman he was no as experience as he is now. Also wolverine has a history I scaring his a opponents. So ya it does make sense. .
Yeah a lot of sense. 🙄 Hulk never made Spider-man move slow, Carnage never did that, fighting dozens guys with guns never made him affraid of death but Wolverine da man did it. 🙄 And again, how is Wolverine as fast as Spider-man if he couldn't hit him untill Spider-man allowed him even though Spider-man was moving slow.

Sam Z Restricted

Originally posted by capt it up

And wolverine has ever thing “that” it takes to hit spiderman as well.
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No, not speed, nor reflexes, sorry.
Originally posted by capt it up

What use is running speed in combat unless you’re a speed stir and even then with out the reflexes to match your screwed.
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Running speed? Who's talking about running, I'm talking about moving during the fight and reflexrs + sense. Spider IS faster and has better reflexes.
Originally posted by capt it up

True spiderman is stronger how ever spiderman only chance of KOing wolverine would be to constantly pound on wolverine and even then his track record is quite bad at being able to KO Logan.
Want to hear ways to take out Logan? As you said 1)constantly pound on him and it would have effect. Not instantly but would.
2) Kick him in the balls and since Spider-man is faster it would be walk in the park for him to perform such kick. 3) Hit in the neck and it will be easy because of the same reason and I don't care if you concider it PIS or not, books speak for themselvs.4) Web him to the groung and rip off his skeleton from his body.
Originally posted by capt it up

Correct.
Really now? How many fights have you been in? I have won fights from purly being more skilled fighter and more durable even though my opponent was faster and stronger.
What video games you've been playing? Sorry but in the REAL fights strength, speed and reflexes are the most important thing, and unless it is an old kung fu movie if your oponent is skilled but much slower and weaker than you he'd still lose.
Originally posted by capt it up

Also I guaranty an old master of the marital arts, who I am stronger then and faster then would still kick my ass. Skill is ever thing, just because your faster and stronger does in no way mean you will win the fight.
😂 What kind of martial art master is it if he is slower and weaker than you? Skills are important but not when your opponent sees every your move in slowmo and gets worning of an attack before you started performing it.

Originally posted by capt it up

The edge is so slight that it would make no differences in this battle. Wolverine can easily fallow Spiderman’s movement and wolverine feats are comparable to Spiderman’s.

Slight? Yeah right. Wolverine has disadvantages in all physical aspects except durabilty and his "comparable" feats are not bigger deal than feats of almost anty book character including DD or Batman etc but it doesn't puts hin in the same level as Spider-man.

Originally posted by capt it up

Not really actually since the senses are totally different. Wolverines senses can do a lot more things then spider sense. Both how ever can sense attacks before they are made so Spiderman really has no edge here and if Spiderman does have an edge it is extremely slight at best.
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His advantage here is clear and simple. Sorry but sense that tells you when attack is coming and what attack it would be and where it comes from is way more handy than enhanse hearing or smell.

Originally posted by capt it up

Again if spiderman has a edge it is extremely slight and would not matter in this battle. Wolverine reflexes can easily keep up with Spiderman’s and wolverine feats are equally as impressive.
Wolverine's reflexes are not even close to Spider-man's, neither his speed so Spider-man advantage is to big and obvious.
Originally posted by capt it up

How do you figure this? Wolverine has a huge stamina edge which would be extremely helpful in this battle. Wolverine also has a huge skill edge which would also be extremely useful in this battle not to mention wolverine’s huge experience edge. There is also wolverine tactical advantage which would certainly aid him in this battle as well.
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And it doesn't mean anything since he'll be taken down with one throat hit like before in canon story book.
Originally posted by capt it up

That is certainly true how ever he ahs never once been KO by the likes of spiderman..
But was beaten and outclassed by guys like Deadpool. Even though WOlverine has a lot of skills and great speed, for some reason Deadpool always cuts him first.
Originally posted by capt it up

Such as?
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Such as DD and Punisher and Deadpool.
Originally posted by capt it up

No not at all. That is your opinion how ever I disagree and I feel Logan would take the win.

I'll say it again. Like it or not Wolverine can be beaten even by guys that are weaker than Spider-man.
Spider-man is much faster than Wolverine.
I would like to see WOlvie doing this.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6834323 And by the way, He moved so before the upgrade and in this scan SPider-man is weak and VERY tired because he spent a lot of time burried alive in the cement.
Or doging thirty laser shots at the same time without much trouble.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6634101
Or dodging bullet that is feet away from him
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6506479
Spider-man has much better reflexes and scan above prove it too, besides I'd like to see Wolverine catching bullet with bare hand. Oh btw cutting dart in the middle air and catching bullets are not simillar feats.
Spider-man is much stronger. He lifted train car. And if you want to believe that Wolverine is as fast as Spider-man ONLY because Spider-man himself said so, then you'll have to believe that Spider-man lifted wheight that according to him not Hulk nor Thor would be able to lift. 🙄
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3354xo.gif

Sorry but all his advantages combined would be enough to perform class 15 hit for example in the throat that would end this fight.

Broly92 Bow to Amc or else?

Tie they both lose now shut the **** up 😒 😐

Sam Z Restricted
Originally posted by Broly92
Tie they both lose now shut the **** up 😒 😐

If i was evil bastard I would've reported you 😒

Broly92 Bow to Amc or else?

Originally posted by Sam Z
If i was evil bastard I would've reported you 😒

Sorry just sick of this thread
It just keeps going on and on 🙁

I really don"t care who wins anymore just that it ends

Sam Z Restricted

Some "equel" to Spider-man speed.

Sam Z Restricted

Originally posted by Broly92
Sorry just sick of this thread
It just keeps going on and on 🙁

I really don"t care who wins anymore just that it ends

Oh well, I'm sick of it too. But i can't help myself, i keep posting.🙁

Broly92 Bow to Amc or else?

Originally posted by Sam Z
Oh well, I'm sick of it too. But i can't help myself, i keep posting.🙁

sadwalk shock

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Sam Z
Some "equel" to Spider-man speed.

🙄 don't try to include the story line or the reason WHY cyc was able to do that or anything... pffft... pitiful example.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by lft4ded
Was Spider-Man sick in that fight. The way that he said 'Mary Jane' in the wavey word balloon, along with the way he said that Wolverine was affecting his head, and that his Spider-sense was slow, lead me to believe that he wasn't in top form for their cemetary fight.
Nah phsyically he was fine but wolverine really messed with his head he beat him on the mental playing field as much as the physical one. Parker wasn't sick, he was just getting his head F***ed with.

Originally posted by lft4ded
Because the characters don't agree or disagree means nothing. Wolverine agreed that Spider-Man could break his neck and stop him. If the character's are right then Spider-Man was in a position to kill him.
wolverine didn't know about his skeleton and the way it works till years later, wolverine was wrong.. or lying.. so no.. spiderman really wasn't...

Originally posted by lft4ded
Really, as surely as Wolverine can swivel his head to the left or right, Spider-Man can continue to swivel around for a complete 360.
but it's not a sure thing due to that adamantium bonding.... ba'al proved this when he failed to rip logan apart.. sabretooth proved this when he tried the VERY SAME tactic that spiderman was about to use to no effect. wolverine won by default deal wit it. 😉

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Eh....No. He did it alone. The Avengers showed up afterwards.
oh he didn't? 😐

so spiderman regularly carries around exploding and collapsing buildings as well as explosive city block leveling gas stations in his arsenal on the day to day?
not to mention an aura that allows heralds to fight at his level for more of a challange? 😬

jinzin Senior Member
Originally posted by batdude123
You have any scans of that?
jinzin Senior Member

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