Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by A.J1,019 pages

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
I see this being a great fight, but nonetheless i would choose spiderman for the win about 60% of the time.

The aspect many people seem to disreguard about this face-off is the power both combatants pack. Although spiderman is comfortably stronger than wolverine, wolverine's strength is nothing to laugh about, and his adamantium makes his punches hurt spiderman as well, but I think spiderman's bare punches will inflict significantly more damage than wolverine's. The thing that evens out the striking of both fighters is wolverine's claws, meaning it doesn't really matter if spiderman's got superhuman strength and durability, because he can't take too many full-on stabs from wolverine. It is wise to note, however, that spiderman is not one to give in to pain and vicious wounds easily, and he has quite the healing factor of his own, though it works best while he's sleeping. Over the years he's healed a broken arm in under a day, vicious battles with morlun in a few days, and a full on stab from wolverine himself in a day.

As per the two vying in speed, agility, and reflexes, I think this is the category that really wins the fight for spiderman. Yes, wolverine is very fast, and has some feats where he moves so fast the human eye can't trace him; he also has the ability to dodge a degree of bullets rapid-fire. However, though wolverine has been known for such feats, spiderman has been labeled- quite correctly- as the most agile, acrobatic character in comic books, and his instintaneous reflexes operate at more than 40 times the speed of a normal human. He is approximately 15 times faster than a normal person, and his spider-sense, as well as new upgraded 360 degree sensory awareness that allow him to pinpoint the coming threat make hims nearly impossible to hit. Wolverine can do it, but spiderman will get more punches in for sure.

Finally, the category most wolverine supporters bring up is the two vying in fighting skill. Wolverine is a much better fighter than spiderman, there's no doubt about it. If we stripped both combatants of their powers, peter would be utterly demolished (although that would also mean wolverine would have to die instantly since he wouldn't have been able to live as long as he has and learned all of the skills he has). However, though this may be true, I don't pay as much attention to it as most seem to. Spidey has invented his own unique fighting style efficiently utilizing his wide array of powers, allowing him to go toe to toe with virtually any bad-ass- up to Hulk level and even a bit beyond- that writers can think up. Over the years he has single- handedly defeated the fantastic four, the x men, the incredible hulk, and the avengers.

The final match-up that makes this the closest part of the debate is wolverine's healing factor. Without it, I don't think he'd last very long against someone like Spiderman, however, that defeats the purpose of the debate, as it would be stripping his most basic power from him. With the healing factor, spiderman is going to have a long battle on his hand, and, though he is able to fight for days on end- as with the vicious battle with Morlun, my favorite spidey battle- wolverine can top that no problem, virtually able to fight for an eternity without tiring. It is pointed to quite potently by Marvel, however, that wolverine is not invincible, and he can be killed by repeated baragges of high levels of damage. If wolverine is written the way he should be, I think spiderman can work out a way, especially utilizing his resources, such as a city as a playground, to defeat wolverine's healing factor, but some writers, like Ghugenheimer (i believe) insist on playing wolverine out as being literally immortal, as with the new Civil War series. I guess we have to take a happy medium, that wolverine can indeed be killed, but it is very difficult- an annoying- to do so, and not to mention that he will most likely be trying to kill you at the same time.

At this point I'd have the two fighters about even, a pure 50/50 bout. What puts me over the edge of the fence to Spiderman's side, is the unfrequent visit of the stress factor he is- or should be- infamously known for. In times of extreme stress, emotional trauma, and physical duresse, spiderman has been seen accomplishing feats of strength and endurance that put him almost up to levels paralelling Ben Grimm. He has been seen catching a military grade apache helicopter in complete free-fall over the city streets, a feat even he was dumbfounded that he accomplished. He has taken full on hits from hulk, has been seen lfiting tons upon tons of debris to free himself, and has also lifted a great portion of a train station off of his back, as well as pulled missles off course with nothing but strength, and has even survived a close-range detonation of a warhead.

Conclusion:
1) If we're talking about a fight to KO, then I think spiderman can take it without the stress factor, winning 60-65% of the time.
2) If this is a strict battle to the death, no matter how valiantly he fights, spiderman would eventually tire and be overcome before wolverine unless he fled the scene of battle to recover, which is a viable option. However, I can still see spiderman killing wolverine if he pulls out the full potential, which has yet to be reached, of his unexplored powers. This fight to the end I'll give to spiderman by an almost invisible margin.

KO= Spiderman 60-65%
Death= Spiderman 50-52%

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Originally posted by A.J
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Originally posted by badabing
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Originally posted by A.J
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Wow 700 pages long.

We could add 700 more pages and still not end this debate.

Hold on Jinzin. you said spiderman lacked the strgnth to take down wolverine. I must disagree. This is the same guy that knocked out firelord. He has thrown wolverine through a Bulletproof window in the new avengers series and has taken him out in the cemetary battle. Whenspidey surprised the xmen wolverine couldnt touch him. Spidermans punches would hurt wolverine. Now would wolverine put up a good fight. Yes. But one punch from wolvie would not knock out spiderman. Spiderman has taken punches from Hulk and thor.

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Originally posted by soxfn89
Hold on Jinzin. you said spiderman lacked the strgnth to take down wolverine. I must disagree.
that's funny cause spiderman doesn't disagree...

Originally posted by soxfn89
This is the same guy that knocked out firelord.
with a LOT of help.

Originally posted by soxfn89
He has thrown wolverine through a Bulletproof window in the new avengers series
which did absolutely nothing to wolverine whatsoever.. in fact wolverine's seen a page later walking around like nothing happened.. grumbling about how spiderman has a lousy senseof humor. and it wasn't in the new avengers series.. it was in a spiderman comic.. and it wasn't bulletproof it was supposed to be indestructible.

Originally posted by soxfn89
and has taken him out in the cemetary battle.
he didn't take wolverine out.. 🤨
the fight ended in a stalemate.. a stalemate in which logan held back and spiderman didn't... a stalemate in which logan could have killed spidey and spidey couldn't kill logan... spidey didn't do anything there but annoy wolverine...

Originally posted by soxfn89
Whenspidey surprised the xmen wolverine couldnt touch him.

perhaps it's cause he didn't want to kill spidey.. he even says he doesn't want to hurt the kid and it didn't help that spidey surprised the x-men.. funny how wolverine was landing hits just fine later on the rooftop fight eh?

Originally posted by soxfn89
Spidermans punches would hurt wolverine
hurt.. sure... to the point of incapacitation.. no, not until proven otherwise.

Originally posted by soxfn89
. Now would wolverine put up a good fight. Yes. But one punch from wolvie would not knock out spiderman. Spiderman has taken punches from Hulk and thor.
one punch with claws out MIGHT depending on location of the strike one punch could even kill him.. and there's proof of this too.. 😕

Wolverine was KOed before many times and sometimes by characters weaker than Spider-man. I don't see any reason why Spider-man can't do the same thing as DD did to take him down.

Originally posted by jinzin

with a LOT of help.

Eh....No. He did it alone. The Avengers showed up afterwards.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Eh....No. He did it alone. The Avengers showed up afterwards.
Correct, and let's not hear any of that "but it was the Symbiote suit" whining. Spidey was not amped at the time.

The only thing the symbiote suit did was allow Peter limited shape changing abilities, healing, and the ability to shoot webbing without shooters.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Correct, and let's not hear any of that "but it was the Symbiote suit" whining. Spidey was [B]not amped at the time.

The only thing the symbiote suit did was allow Peter limited shape changing abilities, healing, and the ability to shoot webbing without shooters. [/B]

And he wasn't wearing the symbiote suit. He was wearing his normal black suit, for style purposes. He made the black suit after he lost the symbiote. It was just cloth.

Originally posted by Soljer
And he wasn't wearing the symbiote suit. He was wearing his normal black suit, for style purposes. He made the black suit after he lost the symbiote. It was just cloth.

Actuly the black Cat made him the suit cause it was sexier...man I'm picky.