Originally posted by capt it up
Not true actually. Logan durability with out his healing factor is enhanced. True durability has nothing to do with healing factor.True how ever does it matter? It what gives him his superhuman stamina.
You are referring to the original ahnd book which was the next year redone putting logan as beyond human. Also The first issue logan appeared in he was written with no healing factor but with spiderman level strength and superhuman durability.
There from his healing factor and they got stronger over time.
.Before the program he still has superhuman stats in every thing basically.
Logan's durability (sans healing factor) is nothing to write home about. Even wielded by normal humans, needles still puncture him. Knives still cut him. Bullets still pierce his skin. His still bleeds when normal humans or characters with no super strength punch him in the face. His bones still break (pre-adamantium) when he does something bone-breakable (the only stronger bones were his claw bones, they were actually much stronger than normal and could withstand a lot of punishment).
What kind of enhanced durability is this when he's shown he's just as durable as the next guy?
My point exactly. Wolverine does not have enhance durability (and if he does, it's VERY MINIMAL). His healing factor is what makes him appear to be durable.
Wait wait wait. In Wolverine's first appearance in the Hulk comic, he was written to have Spider-Man level strength? Where are you getting this from? 🤨
Originally posted by Grimm22
You do know its impossible to see bullets in slow motion 😐
Originally posted by Grimm22
Its possible to say that Wolverine's nerves are faster than a normal humans can be thus letting him interpret the bullet and move as a normal human cannot, thats how Cap dodges bullets
Originally posted by Grimm22
Oh and Spidey's speed >>> Wolverine's speed
Originally posted by capt it up
Again you are thinking capt and wolverine are on the same level when that is not the case. Also capt does not have hyper sense and superhuman reflexes which all him to see the bullet in slow motion and then dodge it as explain in the weapon x noval which is a cannon source.Combat speed? Prove it
Its simple science 😐
Its impossible to see a bullet in slow motion
Oh and Cap and Wolverine are on the same level, deny it all you want
Also, after 739 pages and you still think Wolverine is faster than Spiderman 😆
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Logan's durability (sans healing factor) is nothing to write home about. Even wielded by normal humans, needles still puncture him.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Knives still cut him.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Bullets still pierce his skin.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
His still bleeds when normal humans or characters with no super strength punch him in the face.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
His bones still break (pre-adamantium) when he does something bone-breakable
Originally posted by Metalmanx
(the only stronger bones were his claw bones, they were actually much stronger than normal and could withstand a lot of punishment).
Originally posted by Metalmanx
What kind of enhanced durability is this when he's shown he's just as durable as the next guy?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
My point exactly. Wolverine does not have enhance durability (and if he does, it's VERY MINIMAL). ?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wait wait wait. In Wolverine's first appearance in the Hulk comic, he was written to have Spider-Man level strength? Where are you getting this from? 🤨
Originally posted by Grimm22
Its simple science 😐Its impossible to see a bullet in slow motion
Oh and Cap and Wolverine are on the same level, deny it all you want
Also, after 739 pages and you still think Wolverine is faster than Spiderman 😆
it also impossable to lift several tons. it impossable to have spider powers. The whole comic world is impossable yet you have no problems with it unless it ahs to do with logan.
no capt and logan are not on the same level as stated in countless hand books.
You have yet to prove it in 739 pages
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Dunno if this has been posted - don't have enough time to read through 740 pages! 📖Anyway, this pretty much sums up my whole argument...
"Those pigstickers may scare the bar room bullies, but to me you're a joke!"
also you do realize that single event was full of PIS. nigth crawler getting caught in webbing, colossus and rouge both unable to break webbing. hulk at base level lifting 150 billion tons.
Originally posted by capt it up
also you do realize that single event was full of PIS. nigth crawler getting caught in webbing, colossus and rouge both unable to break webbing. hulk at base level lifting 150 billion tons.
So a ridiculous wolverine feat is just "evidence" for you, but any feat for any other character in marvel that in any way makes a character superior to logan is either PIS, or jobbing by another character.
Your arguments have become repetitious and boring.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
So a ridiculous wolverine feat is just "evidence" for you, but any feat for any other character in marvel that in any way makes a character superior to logan is either PIS, or jobbing by another character.Your arguments have become repitious and boring.
the fact is the whole x-men team foguth spidy out of character and fell to moves that were well in there abilities to dodge or get out of.
again what did that fight prove? prove that a lunging logan can get hit by spiderman whoopy.
Originally posted by capt it up
sums up nuthing. it sums out logan takign spidy to lightly. Logan was fine how ever and unlike spidy logan never been KOed in one of there fights.also you do realize that single event was full of PIS. nigth crawler getting caught in webbing, colossus and rouge both unable to break webbing. hulk at base level lifting 150 billion tons.
You know what the funny thing is?
Despite all the others (Storm, Colossus, Rogue, and Nightcrawler), Wolverine WAS acting in character. He did just what he would always do.
And you say he wasn't trying hard to attack or damage Spidey? Hm...the un-sheathed claws could've fooled me. 😬
Wolvie came at Spidey TWICE with un-sheathed claws, looking to stab him. I think that's painfully obvious. Spidey, however, wants no part in that and simply avoids him (easily) and then swats him away (even easier), something very easily-done given Spider-Man's abilities.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
You know what the funny thing is?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Despite all the others (Storm, Colossus, Rogue, and Nightcrawler), Wolverine WAS acting in character. He did just what he would always do.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
And you say he wasn't trying hard to attack or damage Spidey? Hm...the un-sheathed claws could've fooled me. 😬
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wolvie came at Spidey TWICE with un-sheathed claws, looking to stab him. I think that's painfully obvious.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey, however, wants no part in that and simply avoids him (easily) and then swats him away (even easier), something very easily-done given Spider-Man's abilities.
Originally posted by capt it up
He first attack was in character the second how ever was not? Logan was so close to spiderman the there was no reason to jump by jumping he made his attack slower which is some thing logan would not have dumb unless he was planning to tackle spiderman and not stab him.You do realize he ahs his claws unsheathed all the time with out fighting to kill people such as when he fought shatter star and even though he had his claws out he never once aimed to kill.
That’s why it was bad writing if logan was planning to stab spiderman the second time then why yell any thing out? Why jump when that waist time and be a far slower attack since he was literally like 3 feet away.
Not true since logan has proven time and time again to easily hit spiderman
...How does jumping slow you down? 🤨
If you have momentum behind you, which he did (since he appeared to be running), a strong jump will actually give you a burst of faster speed.
Honestly, it doesn't matter. Had Wolvie stayed on the ground, he still would've swatted away just as easily.
You say he wasn't trying to hit Spidey with his claws. I say you're blind. 😐
And he didn't scream/yell or anything when he lunged at Spider-Man. He didn't give his presence away at all. Spidey's spider-sense told him all he needed to know.
Originally posted by bigbran
He has become one of my favorites.
especially, when he had his... umm... knee(?) showing through the sheets.
He's the man of the people
1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlightv203-BuryYourDead-02-1.jpg
Originally posted by King_MungiGod, would he ever wreck Wolverine.
He's the man of the people1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlightv203-BuryYourDead-02-1.jpg
