Originally posted by jinzin
I might be. i dunno.. lol.
You are right about half the fights Hulk and Spidey have had. Some Spidey gets hit a couple times and it's over, other times he takes horrid beatings and stays in the game. It all depends on circumstance and such, like when he fought Gamma Virus Hulk, and Banner was enraged to the point of near mindlessness, where Spidey had to outsmart him after that nasty thunderclap.
Originally posted by jinzin
they've fought a number of times..the fights are almost entirely consistent. spiderman hops around trying to stop hulk.. hulk lands a shot and spidey almost gets KOed or killed...
same thing happened in the early amazing spidey issues.. like 120 something or another....
that's what I would have thought too, you know.. until I saw their graveyard fight. 😕
I know they fought just before Gwen Stacy died though I have to check what happened in that fight, they also fought in the appearance on the first GG, and when Spidey was going to join the Avengers, but again I need to check to see what happened, I think in most fights Spidey either runs away or the fight stops.
Yeah I'll admitt the Graveyard fight looks bad for Spidey that's why I mainly say he wins due to webbing, but I'm not sure how long he was pounding on Logan for it could only have been for 5 secs and that wouldn't have been sufficient to KO Logan, if he carried on he may have KO'd Logan for a Minuit or 2, but again he'd need to Web logan to the ground or something to be able to pull that off other wise when Logan starts to feel the effects he'd gonna gut Spidey or force Spider-man away while trying to.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
In ASM 120 Spidey took one hell of a beating. You're thinking maybe of an earlier issue, around when they fought in Canada.
Not that I just read it but I took a quick scan, he didn't seem to take a beating the Hulk was about to give him a beating when he stunned him before the military scared him off.
Originally posted by Sparkz
I know they fought just before Gwen Stacy died though I have to check what happened in that fight, they also fought in the appearance on the first GG, and when Spidey was going to join the Avengers, but again I need to check to see what happened, I think in most fights Spidey either runs away or the fight stops.Yeah I'll admitt the Graveyard fight looks bad for Spidey that's why I mainly say he wins due to webbing, but I'm not sure how long he was pounding on Logan for it could only have been for 5 secs and that wouldn't have been sufficient to KO Logan, if he carried on he may have KO'd Logan for a Minuit or 2, but again he'd need to Web logan to the ground or something to be able to pull that off other wise when Logan starts to feel the effects he'd gonna gut Spidey or force Spider-man away while trying to.
the reason I think why the beating on wolvie wnet on for a lot longer than a few seconds is due to what spiderman claims...
he states..
"i've given him everything I've got...
he just keeps coming....
I realize now there's only one way to stop him..."
the monologue box gives one the impression that he's spent his punches on logan....
I don't think peter parker would go COMPLETELY against his character and opt to break logan's neck after throwing a few punches...
he'd only do that upon realizing he had no other options...
now before you scream out " but webbing"
let us reflect first upon what spidey said before that, if he gave wolverine one second he though logan would kill him. webbing wouldn't necessarily wolverine from gutting spiderman, so he opted to draw wolverine in..
finally at the end of the fight spiderman can barely stand, this seems to be related to his exhaustion from spending himself throughout the fight.
Originally posted by Sparkzthat's what I thought happened but I don't remember the issues all that well and figured I wasn't about to go around dictating.. lol
Not that I just read it but I took a quick scan, he didn't seem to take a beating the Hulk was about to give him a beating when he stunned him before the military scared him off.
Originally posted by jinzin
the reason I think why the beating on wolvie wnet on for a lot longer than a few seconds is due to what spiderman claims...he states..
"i've given him everything I've got...
he just keeps coming....
I realize now there's only one way to stop him..."the monologue box gives one the impression that he's spent his punches on logan....
I don't think peter parker would go COMPLETELY against his character and opt to break logan's neck after throwing a few punches...he'd only do that upon realizing he had no other options...
now before you scream out " but webbing"
let us reflect first upon what spidey said before that, if he gave wolverine one second he though logan would kill him. webbing wouldn't necessarily wolverine from gutting spiderman, so he opted to draw wolverine in..finally at the end of the fight spiderman can barely stand, this seems to be related to his exhaustion from spending himself throughout the fight.
Well in that fight I wouldn't have expected Spidey to try webbing he was scared probably doubting his own abilities and thought the only way to stop Logan was to kill him. After all if he thought about it he could have kept dodging while firing webbing at Logan and at the range they were in I doubt Logan would dodge. Or at least easily, I mean what does it take for Spidey to move out the way of Logan s claws while firing a web line at Logan at the same time, even if Logan dodges that would put Wolverine on a bit of a defensive also .
Current Spidey I think would opt more in the favour f webbing, especialy since he knows how unlikley it is he will KO Logan
Originally posted by jinzin
that's what I thought happened but I don't remember the issues all that well and figured I wasn't about to go around dictating.. lol
Well i'd have to re read it to be sure, its also in black and white and its harder to tell whats going on with a quick glance when there is no colour.
Originally posted by jinzin
and I'm not trying to...I'm simply bringing up facts as they stand.
I wasn't using the Ennis feats as an indicator, just an example of a low end feat of Logan to show that he can be hurt by attacks under Hulk strength. I know all about Ennis and how he feels Punisher is the best cause he doesn't have powers.
Originally posted by capt it up
it clearly the writter ment for logan to tripp and tghe art was a little off
He tripped cause he was stunned by the dumbell. He's hit in the head, sees stars, staggers back onto the sword which unscrambles his programming for a second.
Originally posted by jinzin
at this point I'd just like to say that scorpion has no formal training, thugs PROBABLY have no formal training.. if you don't know the right way to throw a punch (and surprisingly a lot of people don't), then there's actually a pretty high possibility of you hurting yourself more than what you're hitting.scorpion breaking his hand doesn't validate a whole lot, for one, scorpions not a trained fighter like cap or dd, he doesn't know how and where to hit for optimum efficieny
and two, he's an idiot....
Regardless of his level os skill someone of that strength level breaking a hand still says volumes of Spider-Man's durabilty