Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by marvelprince1,019 pages
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hardly.

Not hardly. We've already seen it

Originally posted by Soljer
I already spoke of that fact.

But, the thing is, we've seen a pissed off Spidey pound on Wolverine's face and only make him smile.

Spiderman might land TONS of attacks, but how much lasting damage will they do?

On the flip side, how much damage will a stab do? Or a slash? Or a full rend? Wolverine's cut through steel, the Thing, the Hulk, it isn't like his claws wouldn't go into pete like he was warm butter.

It'll take Wolverine a while to land a hit, yes. But in the mean time, how much damage will Wolverine be taking? How many times has a class one hundred brick layed into Wolverine, only to have Wolverine pop back up again, 'rawr'ing into battle?

How many times has Cyclops knocked Wolverine around with his optical beam, only to have Wolverine ready to go again?

Wolverine will suffer through a LOT of Spiderman's attacks - but he will suffer THROUGH them.

I very much doubt that Spiderman will last too long after he is bleeding from a deep gash, or three stab wounds that leave entry AND exit holes.

Even if the stab/slash that Wolverine initially scores isn't a fatal one, it would VERY likely slow Parker down, at least a little bit. And it isn't like Spiderman's impossibly faster than Logan either.

He's faster - absolutely. But not to the point of Wolverine being entirely unable to keep up. It's not like Wolverine will be getting speedblitzed whilst being unable to react.

Now, again, assuming this is a fight in new york or something like that, it's very obvious that Spiderman would take the fight. His (moderate - but not overwhelming) speed advantage, tied in with a VERY superior mobility, and a ranged weapon that could disable Logan?

Obviously that spells Spiderman as the victor.

However, if Parker chose, for whatever reason, to try to stay in close, go to melee, and NOT use his webbing advantage, he'd be laying, cold, in a pool of blood before the night was over.

My only point was Spider-Man will land way more hits than Logan. I never debated the effectiveness of any hit

Originally posted by capt it up
not likly at all.

you underestimate Logan speed and reflex.

ye spiderman got's spider sense however logan has supersense which also can work in a similar fashion.

No, I think I overestimate them if anything. In any situation Spider-Man will land more hits on Wolverine than vice versa. Why? Because he's faster and can land his own plus has spider-sense to dodge Logan's. Again not debating effectiveness just establishing the speed advantage

But, the thing is, what most people are arguing isn't the RELATIVE speed advantage (Spider Sense + Speed) it's the SHEER speed advantage.

Speed vs. Speed, Spiderman isn't that much faster.

You add in the spider sense, absolutely! Obviously Spiderman will dodge a ton of Wolverine's attacks, while Wolverine is forced to take many many more.

However, that doesn't change the outcome of the fight.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Not hardly. We've already seen it

My only point was Spider-Man will land way more hits than Logan. I never debated the effectiveness of any hit

No, I think I overestimate them if anything. In any situation Spider-Man will land more hits on Wolverine than vice versa. Why? Because he's faster and can land his own plus has spider-sense to dodge Logan's. Again not debating effectiveness just establishing the speed advantage

prove that spiderman ahs a huge comabt speed advantage I love to see it proven. jsut post some reflex feat and I will match ever one

Originally posted by capt it up
prove that spiderman ahs a huge comabt speed advantage I love to see it proven. jsut post some reflex feat and I will match ever one

I find that to be a waste cause relatively most speed feats are comparable. A Nightwing feat could be comparable to a Wolverine feat which in turn could be compared to a Spider-Man feat. Its all about preception.

A real factor imo is to look at examples when they're presented together. A good example I like to cite is in Marvel Team Up where Logan is pinned by a robot (or something) and Spider-Man comes in a dodges the attacks to get past.

Originally posted by marvelprince
I find that to be a waste cause relatively most speed feats are comparable. A Nightwing feat could be comparable to a Wolverine feat which in turn could be compared to a Spider-Man feat. Its all about preception.

A real factor imo is to look at examples when they're presented together. A good example I like to cite is in Marvel Team Up where Logan is pinned by a robot (or something) and Spider-Man comes in a dodges the attacks to get past.

so you can't prove a thing you have been saying?

also the issue you satted I own it and it was spiderman having the trouble and wolverien walking in and destroed the flying rebots.

Thats' not a good comic to use ebcuase wolverine out did spiderman through out it.

Originally posted by capt it up
so you can't prove a thing you have been saying?

also the issue you satted I own it and it was spiderman having the trouble and wolverien walking in and destroed the flying rebots.

Thats' not a good comic to use ebcuase wolverine out did spiderman through out it.

I find that to be a waste cause relatively most speed feats are comparable. A Nightwing feat could be comparable to a Wolverine feat which in turn could be compared to a Spider-Man feat. Its all about preception.

QFT. werd

Originally posted by Soleran
QFT. werd

if there comparable then I guess spiderman really is not as fast as you all love to say. also there a feats of wolverine and spiderman that night wing can not match.

Originally posted by capt it up
so you can't prove a thing you have been saying?

also the issue you satted I own it and it was spiderman having the trouble and wolverien walking in and destroed the flying rebots.

Thats' not a good comic to use ebcuase wolverine out did spiderman through out it.

He is right, though, Capt.

At least partially.

I mean, prove that Nightwing isn't as fast as Captain America. Prove that Captain America isn't as fast as Wolverine. Prove that Wolverine isn't as fast as Spiderman.

They all reproduce similar feats....

So, are all four equally as fast? 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
He is right, though, Capt.

At least partially.

I mean, prove that Nightwing isn't as fast as Captain America. Prove that Captain America isn't as fast as Wolverine. Prove that Wolverine isn't as fast as Spiderman.

They all reproduce similar feats....

So, are all four equally as fast? 😬.

no but close enough it make no real difference in battle.

also the thing is night wing cna not match some of the higer end feats and evenc apt fall's sort of soem fo then like catching bullets deflecting bullets and so on.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Glad you finally came to your senses. The joy I'm feeling now is beyond description. Its like my son called me dadda for the first time. 😂

LMAO!

Originally posted by capt it up
if there comparable then I guess spiderman really is not as fast as you all love to say. also there a feats of wolverine and spiderman that night wing can not match.

Just a heads up though, just because I say something is "comparable" that doesn't mean they are equal, it just allows you a measuring stick.

Capt, you want to measure Wolverine's abilities at his peak and compare them essentially against Spiderman's lows, your views are a little beyond skewed.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
IT WILL NEVER DIE!!!!

Besides, after I get my Spider-Man Respect Thread ready, I bet people will return here with new bullets in their guns...

Then someone makes a huge Wolverine Respect Thread in answer.

And it's on, b!tch.

Again.

:lol;

dude you don't know the half of the truth of that.. 😏

Originally posted by Newjak
Spiderman can avoid an entire fights worth of punches from Hulk Wolverine still get's hit.

actually spiderman gets pounded by hulk in about half of their encounters.. he's hardly untouchable in hulk fights..

on the other hand wolverine fought hulk and wendigo in his first appearance and neitherone of them hit him until logan got distracted by outside circumstances... (that doesn't make it a standard does it?)

Originally posted by Newjak
Spiderman can avoid entire machine guns aimed and emptied at him Wolverine hasn't.

the hell are you talking about? 🤨
wolverine did JUST that i cayote crossing..
hell a drugged wolverine dodged a gatling gun in claws issue 2.

Originally posted by Newjak
Spiderman can jump 30 feet straight in the air Wolverine can jump ten feet straight up maybe.

except that wolverine's jumped 20 to 30 feet into the air on at least half a dozen occasions..

and both alpha flight and the x-men have made comments concerning his absurd acrobatic ability in a high jump..

Originally posted by Newjak
And just for Spiderman can always climb on buildings yeah I think he has the agility and maneuverability advantage

uhhhh 😕 wolverine can too.. the guy's raced spider woman in a wall crawling contest and "barely" lost...

Originally posted by jinzin
:lol;

dude you don't know the half of the truth of that.. 😏

Is that to imply a revamped Wolverine respect thread is on the way?

😱 Bout ****ing time....

whistling

Originally posted by Soleran
Just a heads up though, just because I say something is "comparable" that doesn't mean they are equal, it just allows you a measuring stick.

Capt, you want to measure Wolverine's abilities at his peak and compare them essentially against Spiderman's lows, your views are a little beyond skewed.

?

I askied for you to take spiderman best feats of reflex and I will match every single one. I have said thta from the beging, but you have yet to show any evdience.

hell your few the skewed one.

Originally posted by jinzin
whistling

I saw that edit.

🙂.

Originally posted by jinzin
whistling

Originally posted by Soljer
I saw that edit.

🙂.

I'm so lost. 🙁

Originally posted by capt it up
?

I askied for you to take spiderman best feats of reflex and I will match every single one. I have said thta from the beging, but you have yet to show any evdience.

hell your few the skewed one.

Haha dude this thread is over 800 pages, in the past I have posted up pictures however at this point I am tired of the feat war and I did post my thoughts and conditions required for both Wolverine and Spiderman to get majority wins.

Originally posted by Soljer
I saw that edit.

🙂.

😉

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I'm so lost. 🙁

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