Originally posted by jinzin
yo mamma's so poor: the other day i saw her walkin down the street with one shoe.. I asked her "you lose a shoe?"she said: "no, i found one"
Your momma's such a skank that when she and two other women went after a man,one fit half a bottle up her bejingo,the second fit a whole bottle up her bejingo and your momma said "Why am i sitting so low on my barstool?"
Originally posted by marvelprince
I understand this is where we tend to disagree the most. You say you haven't seen Spider-Man do anything that Wolverine hasn't done something similar to and I say I haven't seen anything from Wolverine that puts him on the same level as Spider-Man.As I mentioed before feats from each characters books are comparable. Spider-Man has speed feats, Wolverine has speed feats, Batman, Nightwing and Green Arrow have speed feats. If you look at them all you're bound to find instances where it seems like they are replicating the same feat. Thats why I look at things in context. I can say that Nightwing is more agile than Batman cause when they're together Nightwing is shown to be more agile even though Batman has similar agility feats. I can say Green Arrow is more accurate than Green Arrow II cause when together GA I has shown greater accuracy even though GA II has insane accuracy feats. I use the same principle with Spider-Man. In the end I guess its all a matter of discretion.
and yet when wolverine and spiderman are shown together and spiderman has to second guess himself due to wolverine's speed.. something he even admits to.... ?
what happens to your logic then hmm? 😬
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Your momma's such a skank that when she and two other women went after a man,one fit half a bottle up her bejingo,the second fit a whole bottle up her bejingo and your momma said "Why am i sitting so low on my barstool?"
yo mamma's so fat she could roll over 4 quarters and make a dollar.
Originally posted by jinzin
did you just pull that from spiderman unlimited?
aside from that being one of hulk's WORST PIS moments in the history of marvel comics, and aside from spiderman winning via plot device, and aside from the fact that I said spidey get hit "half the time".....
is unlimited even canon?and uhhhh ultimate wolverine got ripped in half by hulk not 616, in a fight NO ONE'S EVEN SEEN YET... so i'm not sure what you're trying to prove there....
I might as well be bringing in the 70's spiderman t.v. show where he got pummeled by a big asian HUMAN as evidence.. and you have the nerve to roll your eyes at me? 🤨
in any case, no wolverine's not faster, they're comparible.. period.
So if Wolverine accomplishes any remarkable feat regardless of what reality Wolverine it is do you consider that feat worth using. If Wolverine accomplishes a feat from say AOA, House of M, Ultimate Wolverine, or from the Marvel Mangaverse do you not put that up as your evidence to back up your claim. 😕. Is anything other than 616 even cannon
anymore 😕 . Wolverine survived a nuke, Wolverine grew a new heart, Wolverine came back from a cell, Wolverine can regenerate any organ. So many accomplishments on the part of Wolverine but are they all 616 😕 So Wolverine getting his ass ripped apart in ultimate its a problem, but when he accomplishes something so great fanboys drool all over it because its Wolverine so it does not matter what reality its in right? 😉
Originally posted by capt it up
you actaully have to psot the issue number or the scann, but if you insit.Wolverine Origins issue 3: wolverine run's up and kickes the rocket launcher so that it aimed at the ground. This happen after the bottun to lauch the rocket had already been clicked.
I find that far more impressive
I didn't. Seemed pretty generic to me
Originally posted by jinzin
how about wolverine stopping a bullet before it exits the berrall of a gun but only AFTER the hamer's already hit the hilt of the firearm?AND from 5 to 7 feet away?
Now that sounds impressive. Scans? Or an issue number so I can look it up?
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Yo momma so dumb she took a spoon and bowl outside when she heard it was chilly out
Originally posted by marvelprince
I didn't. Seemed pretty generic to meNow that sounds impressive. Scans? Or an issue number so I can look it up?
wait a sec. spiderman dodging a bullet is more impressive then wolverine runninf from 5 feet away and kicking the rocket launcher after it had alread been clicked is not more impreessive?
now your just being bias
Originally posted by python99
So if Wolverine accomplishes any remarkable feat regardless of what reality Wolverine it is do you consider that feat worth using. If Wolverine accomplishes a feat from say AOA, House of M, Ultimate Wolverine, or from the Marvel Mangaverse do you not put that up as your evidence to back up your claim. 😕. Is anything other than 616 even cannon
anymore 😕 . Wolverine survived a nuke, Wolverine grew a new heart, Wolverine came back from a cell, Wolverine can regenerate any organ. So many accomplishments on the part of Wolverine but are they all 616 😕 So Wolverine getting his ass ripped apart in ultimate its a problem, but when he accomplishes something so great fanboys drool all over it because its Wolverine so it does not matter what reality its in right? 😉
Uhhh....
Neither Jinzin, nor Capt, nor myself, have referenced a single alternate universe feat.
Originally posted by Soljer
Actually - Spiderman is MORE durable than Wolverine, but that isn't the point.Let me state this again - Spiderman is faster, no doubt. He is not, however, fast enough to speedblitz Logan without allowing Logan to react. I never argued that Spiderman was slower than Logan, or even AS slow as Logan - just that they are close enough for it not to play as the LARGEST factor in the fight.
In the fight, actually, there are only two factors that actually matter - Spiderman's mobility, and his webbing. These two, combined, means that he will likely win EVERY - SINGLE - TIME.
However, if the two were placed in an 'enclosed environment' and Spiderman were restricted from using his webbing (two OBVIOUS advantages into Logan's favor),
-OR-
if Spiderman decided to go melee with Logan and try to slug it out?
He'd lose. He's faster, stronger, more agile, more durable, smarter, AND is precognitive. He'd still lose.
The first scenario - where Spiderman can use his webbing, isn't a fight. It's "How long can Wolverine dodge/cut Spiderman's webbing before he makes a mistake?"
The second scenario? Where Spiderman is restricted? That's not a fight, either. It's "How long can Spidey pound on Logan until Wolverine lands a hit?"
Because, really, in the first fight? Once Logan's webbed up real nice? It's over. And in the second? Once Wolverine lands a hit? It's over.
😬.
A logical argument. I can agree to it.
But the match wasn't stipulated in such a way. So, it's assumed they're each normal (ie, Spidey gets his webs).
That said, Spidey should win everytime then.
Originally posted by python99
I am not saying any of you have I am pointing out the fact that it happens on both parts for the Spidey and Wolverine supporters.
Who is going to be the first to admit that they do it.
no one does it your the only one.
you use other realities as evidence when they are not. You need to learn not to do this. You have done this at least 3 times to my knowledge and your very ignorant about it when people point it out to you. Shut up and learn that there are other realities and not to use them in a 616 debate.
freaking ulitmate wolverine does not even look that much like 616.
Originally posted by python99
I am not saying any of you have I am pointing out the fact that it happens on both parts for the Spidey and Wolverine supporters.
Who is going to be the first to admit that they do it.
But...like I just said, it DOESN'T happen on both parts.
Only a complete and utter douche would try to bring in alternate universe material.
Might as well say 'Well, last halloween, a kid dressed up as spiderman TOTALLY shat all over a kid dressed as Wolverine, ergo, Spiderman is clearly the winner here.'
It holds about as much relevance.
Originally posted by capt it up
no one does it your the only one.you use other realities as evidence when they are not. You need to learn not to do this. You have done this at least 3 times to my knowledge and your very ignorant about it when people point it out to you. Shut up and learn that there are other realities and not to use them in a 616 debate.
freaking ulitmate wolverine does not even look that much like 616.
You are funny. read the posts between jinzin and myself CAREFULLY then try writing another response.
Originally posted by marvelprince
You really don't think that Spider-Man is faster than Nightwing by enough to make a difference in a fight?You know your the one who claims that Spider-Man isn't much dfaster than Wolverine in a fight. Burden of proof kinda falls on you. Since you insist though, how about the scna that shows Spider-Man dodging a bullet after its been fired?
Originally posted by python99
You are funny. read the posts between jinzin and myself CAREFULLY then try writing another response.
yup yoru still a moron for the most part. No one is trying besides your self to use feats from other realities.
do you just enjoy talking out your back end? If you can not realize that usign evidence from another reality is a bad idea then your hopeless and should simply jsut leave