Originally posted by jinzin
yeah maybe I should be more like you and put on my fact-filtering bat goggles.. 🙄
no, you should apply some LOGIC and COMMON SENSE.
Logic tells me: someone whose webbing can:
- instantaneously hold hundreds of tons debris
- trap a class 100 character on the offensive (iron man)
- cover large radius
Will be able to trap a 5'3 hairy midget with an attitude, no matter how sharp their claws are.
Originally posted by Martian_mindshocklaugh
you sick,sick bastard.rot in hell martiandurhunter
go look at Jonns updated thread,now,in respect section as your penance.
The MM thread looks good. 😎
It's difficult to use past showings because of the fact that Peter said in Spider-Man #544 that he's never let his webbing fly without holding back since it went internal. Well, the results were impressive. Peter shot directly into the uni-beam and encased Stark into a cocoon. It's my opinion that Peter has a good chance of webbing up Logan.
The webbing not only encases Stark but covers a considerable area around him. This is key because Peter's webbing overwhelmed the uni-beam and stopped a extremely strong Iron Man cold. I don't think it's difficult to imagine the webbing overwhelming claws and stopping Logan.
The amount of webbing plus the total area covered shows me Logan wouldn't easily avoid Peter's webbing.
this is how it happens:
after fighting for awhile, Spiderman realizes he can't really take out Logan the regular way with ol' fists of his
so he leaps high into the air and just BLASTS his webbing
Logan senses this and leaps outta the way
While avoiding the mass of webbing, Logan couldn't avoid all of it, and his foot is caught. He slices easily through the webbing.
However, just as Logan is clearing his foot of webbing, the world becomes dark.
A massive web bomb has covered Wolverine in his entirety. His limbs cannot move a centimeter and his claws have been rendered useless.
"Ya gunna get me outta here bub?" asks Logan snarkily
"Sure, as soon as you submit" Parker quips
"GGggrrrrrrrr"
a week later, after futiley trying to get outta the web, a starving and tired Logan finally relents
"alright punk, ya got me this time. But no more cheap parlor tricks next time we meet. GOT IT KID!?"
"yeah sure *munch* *munch* whatever you say" says Parker as he finishes his delicious chilidog lunch.
Originally posted by BadabingSo first peter takes a maximum power uni-beam ... Then he's able to web Ironman up by blindly shooting out webbing which overwhelms a maximum power unibeam and web up ironman who obviously just sat there shooting out a maximum power uni-beam and the webbing shot around him to perfectly mumify/cacoon him and shoot up at angles parker couldn't have hit?
shocklaughThe MM thread looks good. 😎
It's difficult to use past showings because of the fact that Peter said in Spider-Man #544 that he's never let his webbing fly without holding back since it went internal. Well, the results were impressive. Peter shot directly into the uni-beam and encased Stark into a cocoon. It's my opinion that Peter has a good chance of webbing up Logan.
The webbing not only encases Stark but covers a considerable area around him. This is key because Peter's webbing overwhelmed the uni-beam and stopped a extremely strong Iron Man cold. I don't think it's difficult to imagine the webbing overwhelming claws and stopping Logan.
The amount of webbing plus the total area covered shows me Logan wouldn't easily avoid Peter's webbing.
I'm sorry but that scene was a pretty good example of PIS... That was just stupid.
Originally posted by CreshoskPeter taking the uni-beam was overreaching. It's hard to call the webbing PIS because this is the first time since Peter's webbing went internal that it's been shown that he fully let it fly without holding back. Peter has always shown amazing control of the webbing and IMO it's a valid feat.
So first peter takes a maximum power uni-beam ... Then he's able to web Ironman up by blindly shooting out webbing which overwhelms a maximum power unibeam and web up ironman who obviously just sat there shooting out a maximum power uni-beam and the webbing shot around him to perfectly mumify/cacoon him and shoot up at angles parker couldn't have hit?I'm sorry but that scene was a pretty good example of PIS... That was just stupid.
Originally posted by Badabingeven tho i did post those two exact scans two pages back haermm
Peter taking the uni-beam was overreaching. It's hard to call the webbing PIS because this is the first time since Peter's webbing went internal that it's been shown that he fully let it fly without holding back. Peter has always shown amazing control of the webbing and IMO it's a valid feat.
but i agree...
Originally posted by masterbruce
no, you should apply some LOGIC and COMMON SENSE.Logic tells me: someone whose webbing can:
- instantaneously hold hundreds of tons debris
- trap a class 100 character on the offensive (iron man)
- cover large radius
Will be able to trap a 5'3 hairy midget with an attitude, no matter how sharp their claws are.
Except that it isn't instantaneous when he's holdig up debris with it.
Ironman doesn't have the sae tools to escape the webbing irrelivent.
cover a large radius which won't matter since Wolverine only needs a small hole to get through.. same way bp did..
comon sense tells me that a 5 foot hair midget who can shrugg off spidey's best punches and down him with one hit will have more of a chance to win this than a guy who doesn't resort to webbing as his primary offensive strategy 75 % of the time he fights anyways.
Originally posted by Badabing
shocklaughThe MM thread looks good. 😎
It's difficult to use past showings because of the fact that Peter said in Spider-Man #544 that he's never let his webbing fly without holding back since it went internal. Well, the results were impressive. Peter shot directly into the uni-beam and encased Stark into a cocoon. It's my opinion that Peter has a good chance of webbing up Logan.
The webbing not only encases Stark but covers a considerable area around him. This is key because Peter's webbing overwhelmed the uni-beam and stopped a extremely strong Iron Man cold. I don't think it's difficult to imagine the webbing overwhelming claws and stopping Logan.
The amount of webbing plus the total area covered shows me Logan wouldn't easily avoid Peter's webbing.
It's also worth noting that his web shooters aren't that effective all the time..
Originally posted by masterbruce
this is how it happens:after fighting for awhile, Spiderman realizes he can't really take out Logan the regular way with ol' fists of his
so he leaps high into the air and just BLASTS his webbing
Logan senses this and leaps outta the way
While avoiding the mass of webbing, Logan couldn't avoid all of it, and his foot is caught. He slices easily through the webbing.
However, just as Logan is clearing his foot of webbing, the world becomes dark.
A massive web bomb has covered Wolverine in his entirety. His limbs cannot move a centimeter and his claws have been rendered useless.
"Ya gunna get me outta here bub?" asks Logan snarkily
"Sure, as soon as you submit" Parker quips
"GGggrrrrrrrr"
a week later, after futiley trying to get outta the web, a starving and tired Logan finally relents
"alright punk, ya got me this time. But no more cheap parlor tricks next time we meet. GOT IT KID!?"
"yeah sure *munch* *munch* whatever you say" says Parker as he finishes his delicious chilidog lunch.
This is more like it...
Spiderman starts spraying webbing at logan but logan just bursts forward and stabs Spidey in the.. oh wait.. that's ALREADY HAS happened.
Originally posted by jinzinYeah, I took it with a grain of salt that the feat was his first time letting loose. If Peter didn't web up Logan then he would be open to a claw shot.
It's also worth noting that his web shooters aren't that effective all the time..
I think it's been a hard few months for Stark. He's been pummeled by Hulk and had his helmet ripped off his head by Peter and Thor!shocklaugh
Originally posted by Badabing
Yeah, I took it with a grain of salt that the feat was his first time letting loose. If Peter didn't web up Logan then he would be open to a claw shot.I think it's been a hard few months for Stark. He's been pummeled by Hulk and had his helmet ripped off his head by Peter and Thor!shocklaugh
When did he get his ass beat by Thor?
I've been poor and at college so I haven't had the time or money to go get new titles.. 🙁
Originally posted by masterbruce
really? Spiderman emptied his webbing at Logan? When was this? 😕
He didn't, cause he didn't have the chance, cause Wolverine closed the gap too fast.. y'know... like he would in a FIGHT.. and not the ridiculous "I'm gonna stand here and take it" scenario you've cooked up.
Originally posted by jinzin
He didn't, cause he didn't have the chance, cause Wolverine closed the gap too fast.. y'know... like he would in a FIGHT.. and not the ridiculous "I'm gonna stand here and take it" scenario you've cooked up.
it couldn't have been the fact that Logan was taking the fight much more serious than Pete was right? 🙄
Spiderman wins via webbing and leverage. With Spidermans ability to jump around everwhere (coupled with Spidy Sense) and just web him up with his internal webbing (btw Ironmans uni beam has at BELOW max power gone to temps hotter than the sun) he wins. Leverage comes into play when Wolverine cannot move because the webbing is holding him in such a position that his muscles cannot respond in that way. Simple BJJ can teach you as much. Even with Wolvies ability to say break the muscle/dislocate things and heal, there is a certain point where even that will not heal.
The range of motion that he has with the claws is not impressive (arm range of motion basically), and can be exploited 😬