Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by 8bitChris1,019 pages

"The people who actually take the time to think about these things are actually fewer than the others."

Actually, on this forum i'm inclined to disagree here. This whole forum is based on the premise that people are actually thinking about which character will win. I'm going to say that the majority of people posting here and voting here, are doing it for the right reasons.

"Not everyone who votes in these really thinks about it. That's the way democracy works. That's how Lobo was beaten by wolverine."

Not everyone who votes in these doesn't think about it.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
"The people who actually take the time to think about these things are actually fewer than the others."

Actually, on this forum i'm inclined to disagree here. This whole forum is based on the premise that people are actually thinking about which character will win. I'm going to say that the majority of people posting here and voting here, are doing it for the right reasons.

That's rather naive reasoning. and It also sounds like justification to use the poll as actual evidence.

In the end its still ad populum. Simply because a large number of people think that something would be one way or the other doesn't make it so.

Afterall, a large number of people used to think that the world was flat, or that disease was caused by bad smells. Or that the sun revolved around the Earth.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
"Not everyone who votes in these really thinks about it. That's the way democracy works. That's how Lobo was beaten by wolverine."

Not everyone who votes in these doesn't think about it.

And we can argue around in circles. Polls are not viable evidence in such things other than what the larger percentage of the population thinks.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's rather naive reasoning. and It also sounds like justification to use the poll as actual evidence.

In the end its still ad populum. Simply because a large number of people think that something would be one way or the other doesn't make it so.

Afterall, a large number of people used to think that the world was flat, or that disease was caused by bad smells. Or that the sun revolved around the Earth.

And we can argue around in circles. Polls are not viable evidence in such things other than what the larger percentage of the population thinks.

How is it naive? I think just assuming all your peers on this forum are treating it as a popularity contest is wishful thinking. For instance, Creshok, I respect your reasons for debating enough to think that if you were to vote in the poll, you would vote for who you think would win. Am I wrong to be giving you the benefit of the doubt?

If someone were to start a Superman vs. Wolverine poll do you think Wolverine has any chance of getting that majority of the votes? I sure as hell don't. If anything, by your reasoning Wolverine should be winning this poll because he is more popular than Spiderman. (As far as Marvel thinks anyway)

And the "people thought the world was flat" is strained comparison to Wolverine vs. Spiderman. It doesn't work very well. If the majority of comic book fans think Spiderman will own Wolvie then i'd trust that. That is until, you know Galileo comes back from the dead and proves without a doubt that Wolverine will beat Spiderman.

With that said, I think the poll helps the Spiderman winning argument; but I don't think it should have any real heavy leverage in the argument itself.

My original post about the poll was more or less a smartass remark. 🙂

Originally posted by 8bitChris
How is it naive?
Because of the way people are in general.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
I think just assuming all your peers on this forum are treating it as a popularity contest is wishful thinking.
I prefer the term realistic. I've become cynical from dealing with and learning about people.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
For instance, Creshok, I respect your reasons for debating enough to think that if you were to vote in the poll, you would vote for who you think would win. Am I wrong to be giving you the benefit of the doubt?
I don't vote in polls unless there is a really wierd "opt-out" option.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
If someone were to start a Superman vs. Wolverine poll do you think Wolverine has any chance of getting that majority of the votes?
Anyvotes that he does get would obviously be popularity votes. Unless they have a really, really good reason for Wolverine winning. . .

Originally posted by 8bitChris
I sure as hell don't. If anything, by your reasoning Wolverine should be winning this poll because he is more popular than Spiderman.
Not likely, Wolverine and Spiderman are two of Marvel's most popular characters, but there's no real way to find out who is more popular.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
(As far as Marvel thinks anyway)
How do you figure?

Originally posted by 8bitChris
And the "people thought the world was flat" is strained comparison to Wolverine vs. Spiderman.
No, it's showing that what the majority of people think doesn't have anything to do with the truth.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
It doesn't work very well. If the majority of comic book fans think Spiderman will own Wolvie then i'd trust that.
It's ad populem. The majority of people could be wrong about something.

Disease, flat earth geocentric universe etc. etc.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
That is until, you know Galileo comes back from the dead and proves without a doubt that Wolverine will beat Spiderman.
Galileo . . . 🙄

Originally posted by 8bitChris
With that said, I think the poll helps the Spiderman winning argument;
No, that's an ad populem argument.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
but I don't think it should have any real heavy leverage in the argument itself.
I don't think it should have any bearing on it.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
My original post about the poll was more or less a smartass remark. 🙂
And then when pressed about it you actually defended it, rather well too I might add. *shrugs*

Glass is half empty kinda thing huh?

"Anyvotes that he does get would obviously be popularity votes. Unless they have a really, really good reason for Wolverine winning. . "

The fact that Superman would win the poll should provide evidence that the people on this forum, in general, made the right choice when they voted.

I know that you don't vote in polls, but "if" you did, i'm pretty sure you would make your decision for the right reasons.

Yea, these really good reasons for wolverine winning come right out of peoples butts.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yea, these really good reasons for wolverine winning come right out of peoples butts.
Actually it comes from the comics.

Spiderman doesn't have anything on Wolverine anymore, he can't win.

Wolverine can break out of the webbing and take spiderman's punches, but a little scratch and spidey goes down. 😆

exactly, you just said dug a deeper hole for yourself, ANYMORE, just showing how souped up he is.

If wolverine is "breaking" out of spidey's webbing, I call it a day, once he is sent across the room from DD, then he takes punches from namor without falling, hah funny. AT least spiderman was released with upgrades and wasn't used interchangibly in debates by yet another wolverine fanboy.He shouldn't be breaking out of his webbing , he cant even break spideys grip by brute strength, you sound like a fool, GO LEARN YOUR FACTS.

P.S. spiderman has taken more than a "scratch", before he went down. Man if I have to explain the proficiencies between slash,thrust,pierce,and scratch, i will be dissapointed and wil be putting you onthat good ol ignore list.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
exactly, you just said dug a deeper hole for yourself, ANYMORE, just showing how souped up he is.
Souped up to the way he is from the weak way that you want him you mean. I'm using Marvel's wolverine, not your straw wolvie. 😉

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
If wolverine is "breaking" out of spidey's webbing, I call it a day,
Yup in a recent fight he broke out of Spidey's webbing and accidently stabbed him. 😆

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
once he is sent across the room from DD, then he takes punches from namor without falling, hah funny.
Once spiderman takes out firelord and once he can't take out wolverine.

Guess spidey's strength is inconsistant. Best not use it. 😉

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
AT least spiderman was released with upgrades and wasn't used interchangibly in debates by yet another wolverine fanboy.
Nope, just spidey fanboys.

"Oh he's not souped up, but he can take wolverine."

You'd have to soup him up beyoned what Marvel has inoreder to take wolverine as AMrvel has never had Spiderman being able to knock out wolverine. But go ahead and keep ignoring that fact, since you don't like it. 😉

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He shouldn't be breaking out of his webbing ,
Go read the comic in which Wolverine and spiderman fight in the new avengers. 🙂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
he cant even break spideys grip by brute strength, you sound like a fool, GO LEARN YOUR FACTS.
😆 And you proved yourself to be a fool.

"I don't like it so it never happened"

I rest my case, that's the argument you've so cleaverly hidden. You don't like it so it didn't happen. Typical. 🙂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
P.S. spiderman has taken more than a "scratch", before he went down.
One stab from wolvie and he passed out due to lack of blood. 🙂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Man if I have to explain the proficiencies between slash,thrust,pierce,and scratch, i will be dissapointed and wil be putting you onthat good ol ignore list.
You're just mad that Marvel's 616 spiderman can't beat Marvel's 616 wolverine and have no argument to counter established fact.

Go live in denial and put me on ignore if it helps you feel good about yourself little boy. 😉

hey,you think the correct wolverine is the weak one that is okay.

anyone whodoesn't see wolvies inconsistency do to popularity, is in denial, blind, or a wolverine fanboy.........

Bottom line,a wolverine aint breaking out of that webbing without those claws, and to say that after he has held much stronger like the things and such , makes you sound like a fool or a wolverine fanboy, whichever is worse,
This ain't gettin through that thick skull do you have adamantium inthere, oh and his stomach is open and it clearly says that wolverine can die from organ loss inthose stats, don't change that around fanboy,

Oh and I think I hear your wife calling you, I think she wants you to do something constructive, instead of trying to seduce "boys" online with winking smiley's

You wouldn't last five minutes in a barracks.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
hey,you think the correct wolverine is the weak one that is okay.

anyone whodoesn't see wolvies inconsistency do to popularity, is in denial, blind, or a wolverine fanboy.........

Bottom line,a wolverine aint breaking out of that webbing without those claws, and to say that after he has held much stronger like the things and such , makes you sound like a fool or a wolverine fanboy, whichever is worse,
This ain't gettin through that thick skull do you have adamantium inthere, oh and his stomach is open and it clearly says that wolverine can die from organ loss inthose stats, don't change that around fanboy,

Oh and I think I hear your wife calling you, I think she wants you to do something constructive, instead of trying to seduce "boys" online with winking smiley's

You wouldn't last five minutes in a barracks.

If you say so Spiderman fanboy. 🙄

Stop hitting on me.
Wolverine fanboy.

character50 "only through war can we hope to achieve peace"

Tell the non human that. And good smiley.........

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Stop hitting on me.
Wolverine fanboy.
Sorry, I only like chicks, not guys who act like chicks. So, stop deluding yourself.

Hah, no need to hide the way you feel............

Regardless no more insults, we agree that we are wasting our time, and if not go ahead if you got nothing better to do.

but hey why get banned over it?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Hah, no need to hide the way you feel............
Okay I'll admit that I don't like you.

Hey you don't seem to like anyone..... the droid face says cynical ******* all over it.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Hey you don't seem to like anyone..... the droid face says cynical ******* all over it.
Well I certainly don't like people who attack me, can't take the return fire and call off after delevering one last jab.

nah, you don't like me because I'm black, but anyway,don't you want to be more mature, and where was the last jab, its shown that people who waste so much time arguing with each other grow to like each other, it is wierd like that. Some of my best friends were guys that I could not stand at one point, I actually have no resentment against you, you should know that guys insult all the time. "Just come out the shell''

You act like i reported to a moderator or something.