Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by SamZED1,019 pages

Spider sense is a plot device, sometimes it warns Parker and forces to move out of the way, sometimes Parker gets a tiny warning he barely notices. Its safe to say Spider-man didn't expect that Logan was gonna stab him even though they were kinda mad at each other. According to Parker he'd NEVER expect Logan to stab him.

which makes parker a douche and taking advantage of someone he feels wont defend himself... hmm.. is this attitude not prevalent with parker and other logan confrontations?

Originally posted by SamZED
Spider sense is a plot device, sometimes it warns Parker and forces to move out of the way, sometimes Parker gets a tiny warning he barely notices. Its safe to say Spider-man didn't expect that Logan was gonna stab him even though they were kinda mad at each other. According to Parker he'd NEVER expect Logan to stab him.

I mean it seems kinda stuid for spiderman to assume pissing off some one like wolverine and doing all the crap he did that wolverine was not going to do something about it. I mean he claws were out. I don't think spiderman thought wolverine would stabb that deep, I dont even think wolverine thought he would stabb that deep. I don't think either was thinking, I think they were both pissed off and wanted to throw down. hat incident is not evidence that wolverine wins a fight be any means, but does display that wolverine can clearly hit him. Dispite what spiderman was thinking, he certainly was trying to dodge the attack.

But as I said it all about were the fight takes place.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
which makes parker a douche and taking advantage of someone he feels wont defend himself... hmm.. is this attitude not prevalent with parker and other logan confrontations?

Hey its not like Logan is helpless without his claws. Also mayby now that Spider-man knows Logan better, but it wasn't the case when they met the first few times and fought. Or when Logan went berserk..

Originally posted by SamZED
Spider sense is a plot device, sometimes it warns Parker and forces to move out of the way, sometimes Parker gets a tiny warning he barely notices. Its safe to say Spider-man didn't expect that Logan was gonna stab him even though they were kinda mad at each other. According to Parker he'd NEVER expect Logan to stab him.
I would say the SS fluctuates somtimes it's ringing more and sometimes less in almost the same situation but when it absolutely not kicks in it's PIS, unless of course there's an explanation: Mysterio, Kaine, Ben Reilly, and Spidercide, Kraven, The Jackal, Iron Man, Certain Skrulls, The Spot, Ezekiel, Venom

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I don't think spiderman thought wolverine would stabb that deep, I dont even think wolverine thought he would stabb that deep. I don't think either was thinking,
They are comic book characters They dont' think... 😬

Originally posted by nicamarvin
They are comic book characters They dont' think... 😬
So you're a comic book character?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
So you're a comic book character?
.. 😕 blowup

Originally posted by SamZED
Hey its not like Logan is helpless without his claws. Also mayby now that Spider-man knows Logan better, but it wasn't the case when they met the first few times and fought. Or when Logan went berserk..

Wolverine went berserk?

Oh you mean when he was jumbing from roof top after that omega level mutant kid. He was aimign for the kid and he kinda sorta fell into slight berserk rage for a second. I barely even call that a berserker rage and he was not fighting spiderman and he ended up being right lol. I love when there both gettign blasted by that kid and aplogies to eachother lol

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I would say the SS fluctuates somtimes it's ringing more and sometimes less in almost the same situation but when it absolutely not kicks in it's PIS, unless of course there's an explanation: Mysterio, Kaine, Ben Reilly, and Spidercide, Kraven, The Jackal, Iron Man, Certain Skrulls, The Spot, Ezekiel, Venom

see, but how do you know it did not kick in? I mean now adays they dont even mention much of the time that it is working it simply implied that spiderman using his spidersense.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I mean it seems kinda stuid for spiderman to assume pissing off some one like wolverine and doing all the crap he did that wolverine was not going to do something about it. I mean he claws were out. I don't think spiderman thought wolverine would stabb that deep, I dont even think wolverine thought he would stabb that deep. I don't think either was thinking, I think they were both pissed off and wanted to throw down. hat incident is not evidence that wolverine wins a fight be any means, but does display that wolverine can clearly hit him. Dispite what spiderman was thinking, he certainly was trying to dodge the attack.
I remember reading an old book where Spider and Logan were training in a danger room, Pete almost got himself killed and Logan saved him and asked what was wrong with him falling for a trap he'd normally easilly dodge. Parker said something like it depends on his moodset. Sure Logan can hit him if the fight lasts long enough, he has better stamina, I dont think anyone'd try to argue that. It's just that incident imo wasnt an evidence of how'd go in a real fight.
Originally posted by Battlehammer

I would say the SS fluctuates somtimes it's ringing more and sometimes less in almost the same situation but when it absolutely not kicks in it's PIS, unless of course there's an explanation: Mysterio, Kaine, Ben Reilly, and Spidercide, Kraven, The Jackal, Iron Man, Certain Skrulls, The Spot, Ezekiel, Venom

That's true, but unfortunately some writers often forget about it at all.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
see, but how do you know it did not kick in? I mean now adays they dont even mention much of the time that it is working it simply implied that spiderman using his spidersense.
most of the time we can see it:

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Wolverine went berserk?

Oh you mean when he was jumbing from roof top after that omega level mutant kid. He was aimign for the kid and he kinda sorta fell into slight berserk rage for a second. I barely even call that a berserker rage and he was not fighting spiderman and he ended up being right lol. I love when there both gettign blasted by that kid and aplogies to eachother lol

lol Yeah. "Why do we keep doing this" And then Logan kinda broke the 4th wall.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
most of the time we can see it:

No really, espcially the last decade or so, it simply implied that his spidersense is going off. Muhc like it implied DD radar on and wolverien supersenses are working.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No really, espcially the last decade or so, it simply implied that his spidersense is going off. Muhc like it implied DD radar on and wolverien supersenses are working.
tbh I haven't really kept an eye on it, at a certain point you just expect it to be there. I can tell you in his current run these spikey indicators are back again but I'll have an eye on it in my research for feats from now on.

EDIT:
Amazing Spider-man V1 01
😂

😂 Nice.

Speaking of Logan's sense, they get ignored pretty often as well by the writers.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
He could try that, but it a good way to get stabbed. His best bet is to keep his distances and spray webbing while using his superior agility. This fight really depends so much on were the fight takes place. Like a city would favore spiderman while featureless enviorment would favore wolverine.
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His webbing does not work like that he can't jsut shoot wide burst of it, nor does it move at speeds anywere near to fast for wolverine to dodge or cut. As he does this, if he fails to web wolverine he in deep shit. He only has so much of it and such a stratagy reguires a kit if webbing.

okay.....

spidey is no slow-poke, right? I'll humor you and say at the very least comparable to wolverine, agreed? I know he's fast enough to engage logan in close-combat.......and if he was to attempt to web logan(who is in close-combat with him) with a widened, area covering web, like ones he commonly fashions for parachutes, is logan so much faster as to where he'll evade the large-area of webbing(which can easily be continuous and moving in several directions as spidey moves to where logan evades), and then outmanuver spidey(who would logically have the drop on him while he's focusing on evading webbing) in order to attack him(stab,poke,whatever).......oh yeah, parker has SS to aid him in his effort as well.

so you're saying:

Logan and spidey fight close-quarters. Spidey tries to ensnare him with a large area of webbing.........and Logan is fast enough to evade the large, expanding area of webbing, and then outreact Spidey, who could either simply keep spraying continuing, large area webbing in several directions or just use the alotted time to attack wolvie, who would inevitably be occupied with dodging webbing?

I guess here's where I drop some examples:

spidey's webbing is fast enough to catch him while falling in mid-air, form itself in several places before fired bullets reach it, and snatch missiles right out the air, but too slow to ensnare wolverine while it's basically flying around everywhere until spidey chooses to stop spraying it or it simply runs out? I'm convinced spidey's webbing expands in too large an area too fast from wolvie to evade it, or even cut through it in a timely fashion.......here are some reasons why

stopping incoming missiles
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/300/feat32speedequipmentah2.jpg

large amount of webbing.....sort amount of time
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/213/feat43equipment2av2.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1884/feat26equipmentjp4.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8008/feat11equipmentpm8.jpg

entraps several large monsters in no time
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5061/feat5equipmentye0.jpg

EDIT

look he took down krakoa with webbing.. spidey is really underestimated in this forum... 🙄