Cloning creates an imperfect copy. It is by definition second or third or whichever number class. Not a first class being.
Q: 'Are clones human?'
A: No. They are clones.They were not born in a womb after 9 months of gestation created by a father and mother. They are therefore not human and therefor have no legal power to oppose being utterly exploited.
Originally posted by Sniper_sloth
Cloning creates an imperfect copy. It is by definition second or third or whichever number class. Not a first class being.Q: 'Are clones human?'
A: No. They are clones.They were not born in a womb after 9 months of gestation created by a father and mother. They are therefore not human and therefor have no legal power to oppose being utterly exploited.
if they have no father or mother...then how did they get here?
Synthetically of course. The cloning processes I speak of are impossible at this time because the technology doesn't exist yet. However if cloning is pursued, it is likely that within the space of a few generations the technology I am addressing will exists. Pre-supposing foreward thinking people who aren't overly moralistic buffoons are able to have access.
Originally posted by Darth Revan
Clones aren't somehow genetically inferior. Using clones as slaves is a very stupid, shortsighted idea. It would turn into a huge, "are clones human" type of debate, like we had when people were starting to question the same thing with african slaves.And to say it wouldn't be difficult clearly shows that you have no idea how complex the human genome is.
Clones are only geentically inferior in the sense if they are adult clones they will develop old age diseases that much quicker.
Cloning humans would not be difficult just very expensive, and you would need a lot of female wombs (in vivo) to get the probability of one growing after fertilisation has taken place in vitro.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I believe that in 25-50 years, the cloning of humans is accepted...in 50-80 years, countries start to use clones in army...imagine, clones with genetic tampering in them. They could be superstrong, superfast, superintelligent...perfect soldiers.
"when captain america etc..."
I am all for cloning, genetics, and even transgenics. Humanity is somewhat unique as we are at the point (nearly) where we could theoretically control our own evolution and push the bounderies of what is possible, and I think that, in the long run, is a thing is good. With the knowledge and ability such areas could really help humanity. Yes, there is always the "but it could be used for the wrong reasons" arguments, but that is true for anything really, and I have never liked the religious arguments to do with the subject.
I'm actually taking a course on it now. At first I thought cloning was this beyond human capability we're trying to mess with but now I see it's not that hard of a procedure. And while I may agree there are really no moral repercussions around cloning, why the crap would anyone want to clone themselves, and give birth to themselves? That's just odd...
Originally posted by theReject
I'm actually taking a course on it now. At first I thought cloning was this beyond human capability we're trying to mess with but now I see it's not that hard of a procedure. And while I may agree there are really no moral repercussions around cloning, why the crap would anyone want to clone themselves, and give birth to themselves? That's just odd...
Well itz actually seems pretty plausible to me....
Originally posted by theReject
I'm actually taking a course on it now. At first I thought cloning was this beyond human capability we're trying to mess with but now I see it's not that hard of a procedure. And while I may agree there are really no moral repercussions around cloning, why the crap would anyone want to clone themselves, and give birth to themselves? That's just odd...
How are there no moral repercussions? Your opinion please.
i'm cool with it i mean i think it should be allowed if its for medical reasons, i.e abortions happen so why toss the fetal tissue away if via genetics and cloning of cells it can help the living why jus let the aborted die for no reason at all. We might as well use it to help the living who exist in sickness and pain.