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Originally posted by Epicurus
He was beaten like a punk. That doesn't mean he's a punk. Think.

You keep making excuses over excuses. Horrible.

So you finally concede that Weidman is Silva's superior and Velasquez is similarly JDS' better. Better late than never.

I see you didn't get what I was saying. You said he lost like a punk, I said a punk would have given up. He didn't give up, so he didn't lose like a punk. He had the heart of a warrior in both rematches. I'm hoping you can comprehend this now, but I won't hold my breath.

So Anderson is not 38 years old? Did the UFC just make that up? Or is he 38, but still in his physical prime? Which do you think? Judging by your comments, you must think one or the other.

I find it funny that I'm getting the "Don't make excuses!" speech from someone who thinks the only way Cain Velasquez can lose is by a "lucky shot".

I never denied that Cain was better than JDS (this is at least the 5th time I've said this btw). Weidman is better than 38 year old Anderson, and still has yet to surpass Anderson's accomplishments. Let's see where Chris Weidman is when he's 38 before we start ranking him ahead of Silva on the all-time rankings.

I really shouldn't have to explain this stuff to you. It's like you started watching combat sports yesterday.

Originally posted by Insomniatric
I see you didn't get what I was saying. You said he lost like a punk, I said a punk would have given up. He didn't give up, so he didn't lose like a punk. He had the heart of a warrior in both rematches. I'm hoping you can comprehend this now, but I won't hold my breath.

So Anderson is not 38 years old? Did the UFC just make that up? Or is he 38, but still in his physical prime? Which do you think? Judging by your comments, you must think one or the other.

I find it funny that I'm getting the "Don't make excuses!" speech from someone who thinks the only way Cain Velasquez can lose is by a "lucky shot".

I never denied that Cain was better than JDS (this is at least the 5th time I've said this btw). Weidman is better than 38 year old Anderson, and still has yet to surpass Anderson's accomplishments. Let's see where Chris Weidman is when he's 38 before we start ranking him ahead of Silva on the all-time rankings.

I really shouldn't have to explain this stuff to you. It's like you started watching combat sports yesterday.


I said he was beaten like a punk. Read my post again.

More excuses. I am bathing in your tears.

You refused to accept that he had JDS' number. You continually tried to pass off both his victories on a better game plan even though it's clear as day for anyone to see that Cain is the superior fighter. Weidman tooled Anderson. One of the most horrific losses in MMA history ever. December 28th wasn't just the day that Silva nearly lost his leg, it was also the day that hardcore Anderson fanboys like you lost a part of themselves.

You conceded that JDS is inferior to CV and Silva is inferior to Weidman. My day gets more glorious hour by hour.

god damn flu, twice in 2 weeks

Originally posted by Epicurus
I said he was beaten like a punk. Read my post again.

More excuses. I am bathing in your tears.

You refused to accept that he had JDS' number. You continually tried to pass off both his victories on a better game plan even though it's clear as day for anyone to see that Cain is the superior fighter. Weidman tooled Anderson. One of the most horrific losses in MMA history ever. December 28th wasn't just the day that Silva nearly lost his leg, it was also the day that hardcore Anderson fanboys like you lost a part of themselves.

You conceded that JDS is inferior to CV and Silva is inferior to Weidman. My day gets more glorious hour by hour.

I said losing like a punk involves giving up. Read my post again.

lol "excuses", it gets funnier every time you say it, Mr. Lucky punch.

You still don't understand what having your opponent's number means. I can explain it to you (yet again) if you want.

Cain did come in with a much better gameplan in both rematches, if you don't see that, then (surprise, surprise) you don't know anything about fighting. JDS has better boxing, Cain tried to stand with him in the first fight without pressuring him and going for TDs, and naturally got knocked out. It doesn't take an expert analyst to see that. I even showed you, step by step, what exactly JDS capitalized on to land the KO shot on Cain. I can't put it any simpler than I already did.

It was a hard day for me as a fan, but like I said, there is more to my life than MMA. That may not be true for you, but for me it is. If you are going to have your life revolve around MMA though, at least educate yourself about it, because you don't even seem to have even basic knowledge about technical fighting. I'm sure you couldn't tell the difference between a jab and a straight without googling it.

I never once denied that Cain was better. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

Weidman is better than 38 year old Anderson, not prime Anderson.

lol, this is what makes your day "glorious"?

If Silva gets like a steel bone, does that count as a weapon and he can't compete?

These two guys, it's so funny.

True story.

I'm sorry for annoying everyone with this argument.

Originally posted by Bardock42
If Silva gets like a steel bone, does that count as a weapon and he can't compete?

I don't think so.

Originally posted by Insomniatric
I said losing like a punk involves giving up. Read my post again.

lol "excuses", it gets funnier every time you say it, Mr. Lucky punch.

You still don't understand what having your opponent's number means. I can explain it to you (yet again) if you want.

Cain did come in with a much better gameplan in both rematches, if you don't see that, then (surprise, surprise) you don't know anything about fighting. JDS has better boxing, Cain tried to stand with him in the first fight without pressuring him and going for TDs, and naturally got knocked out. It doesn't take an expert analyst to see that. I even showed you, step by step, what exactly JDS capitalized on to land the KO shot on Cain. I can't put it any simpler than I already did.

It was a hard day for me as a fan, but like I said, there is more to my life than MMA. That may not be true for you, but for me it is. If you are going to have your life revolve around MMA though, at least educate yourself about it, because you don't even seem to have even basic knowledge about technical fighting. I'm sure you couldn't tell the difference between a jab and a straight without googling it.

I never once denied that Cain was better. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

Weidman is better than 38 year old Anderson, not prime Anderson.

lol, this is what makes your day "glorious"?


You equated my comments as me calling him a punk. You were being disingenuous. Admit it.

You make excuses upon excuses for your faves. That shows what a fanboy you are. It was a lucky punch since he failed to replicate it any of their rematches.

Cain beat him down in the same fashion twice. Cain's gameplan was the same. JDS also had the necessary time to prep for a counter to Cain's fighting tactics. He still failed. Think what that implies.

You conceded that Silva was inferior. I almost orgasmed from your betrayal of your idol.

You denied that he had Dos Santos' number. You tried to pretend as if they were still evenly matched even though JDS got ragdolled in a stupendous fashion twice already.

Weidman humiliated him twice. Second time practically ending his career. Awful.

I accept your concession. 🙂

This is really important to you, is it?

Originally posted by Bardock42
This is really important to you, is it?
si.

Really tho...

Originally posted by Epicurus
You equated my comments as me calling him a punk. You were being disingenuous. Admit it.

You make excuses upon excuses for your faves. That shows what a fanboy you are. It was a lucky punch since he failed to replicate it any of their rematches.

Cain beat him down in the same fashion twice. Cain's gameplan was the same. JDS also had the necessary time to prep for a counter to Cain's fighting tactics. He still failed. Think what that implies.

You conceded that Silva was inferior. I almost orgasmed from your betrayal of your idol.

You denied that he had Dos Santos' number. You tried to pretend as if they were still evenly matched even though JDS got ragdolled in a stupendous fashion twice already.

Weidman humiliated him twice. Second time practically ending his career. Awful.

I accept your concession. 🙂

You saying he lost like a punk implies he fought with no heart and gave up. I would ask you to admit you were wrong, but you probably still don't understand what I'm saying.

This coming from you is hilarious. Anderson is 38 years old. This is a fact.

There is no such thing as a lucky punch, Junior didn't close his eyes and throw something. He set Cain up and put him out. Cain came in with a different game plan in both rematches and won. How hard is it to see that?

I never said JDS didn't fail in the rematches... what are you talking about?

I said post prime Anderson was inferior, and this made you nearly... orgasm? You get creepier with every post.

Having your opponent's number means you can beat them 10/10 times. Cain obviously can't do that to JDS, seeing as how Cain got flattened in the first fight.

I never said Weidman didn't beat him twice... come up with an actual argument or give up.

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Originally posted by Insomniatric
You saying he lost like a punk implies he fought with no heart and gave up. I would ask you to admit you were wrong, but you probably still don't understand what I'm saying.

This coming from you is hilarious. Anderson is 38 years old. This is a fact.

There is no such thing as a lucky punch, Junior didn't close his eyes and throw something. He set Cain up and put him out. Cain came in with a different game plan in both rematches and won. How hard is it to see that?

I never said JDS didn't fail in the rematches... what are you talking about?

I said post prime Anderson was inferior, and this made you nearly... orgasm? You get creepier with every post.

Having your opponent's number means you can beat them 10/10 times. Cain obviously can't do that to JDS, seeing as how Cain got flattened in the first fight.

I never said Weidman didn't beat him twice... come up with an actual argument or give up.


I said he was beaten down like a punk. He couldn't even mount up a proper defensive. Cain owned him completely in that scenario imo.

Anderson also got humiliated by Weidman. Fact.

Why did he fail to replicate it then, despite getting 2 opportunities and immense prep-time to do so? He shamelessly passed it off on over-training and a recent divorce for the first loss, and didn't learn any humility after the second loss, what with him claiming that Cain hits like a girl and all, and that he is still the better fighter.

You refused to admit that Cain had his number despite 2 epic beatdowns. I laughed at your obstinacy then, I am laughing at your flip-flopping now.

Your tear-filled concession that Anderson was inferior was orgasm-worthy. I broke you down. Nothing gives me greater glee.

Cain has already layeth the smackdown on him for 10 rounds continuously. Cain is his undoubted superior. Maybe if someone else manages to get lucky enough to beat Cain like JDS did, Dos Santos might have a chance of regaining the title. Until then, he'll have to be content to be number 2 or number 3 in the heavyweight division. That is of course unless he decides to cut weight and fight in the lhw division, against guys that are usually much smaller than him, just like your idol Silva, lol.

I still accept your concession with the warmest of regards.🙂

Originally posted by Epicurus
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Your tear-filled concession that Anderson was inferior was orgasm-worthy. I broke you down. Nothing gives me greater glee.

Really? Have you tried sex?

The whole domination and fighting over sweaty guys kind of rings of sexual frustration, I agree.

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Originally posted by Epicurus
I said he was beaten down like a punk. He couldn't even mount up a proper defensive. Cain owned him completely in that scenario imo.

Anderson also got humiliated by Weidman. Fact.

Why did he fail to replicate it then, despite getting 2 opportunities and immense prep-time to do so? He shamelessly passed it off on over-training and a recent divorce for the first loss, and didn't learn any humility after the second loss, what with him claiming that Cain hits like a girl and all, and that he is still the better fighter.

You refused to admit that Cain had his number despite 2 epic beatdowns. I laughed at your obstinacy then, I am laughing at your flip-flopping now.

Your tear-filled concession that Anderson was inferior was orgasm-worthy. I broke you down. Nothing gives me greater glee.

Cain has already layeth the smackdown on him for 10 rounds continuously. Cain is his undoubted superior. Maybe if someone else manages to get lucky enough to beat Cain like JDS did, Dos Santos might have a chance of regaining the title. Until then, he'll have to be content to be number 2 or number 3 in the heavyweight division. That is of course unless he decides to cut weight and fight in the lhw division, against guys that are usually much smaller than him, just like your idol Silva, lol.

I still accept your concession with the warmest of regards.🙂

JDS fought with more heart than 90% of fighters ever have. Sure, he was getting smashed, but he got back up until he physically couldn't. That's heart, not "losing like a punk".

38 years old is far past an athlete's physical prime, particularly one like Anderson who relies on his quickness and reflexes more than anyone else does. I'm well aware that Weidman beat him twice.

"I wasn't myself in the first fight, I was injured"

That was Cain after the first fight. Those are also excuses, but I'm sure you're ok with Cain making them.

The fact that JDS lost the rematches doesn't mean that the first fight was luck because A: professional fighters don't get "lucky' and B: JDS capitalized on a weakness in Cain's defense. Cain made this weakness more difficult to exploit in the rematches by using a far more aggressive game-plan designed to wear JDS down. It's not rocket science.

Ask any respectable trainer if JDS got "lucky" and they will laugh in your face. Go ask Jack Slack about it. Go educate yourself, your lack of knowledge is hilariously apparent.

You can't say you have your opponents number if he's already beaten you. Cain proved he couldn't beat JDS every time by getting put to sleep a minute into the first fight. If you said Cain is better than JDS, I would agree. But he does not have his number. I've explained this numerous times, if you don't get it by now then you have trouble with reading comprehension.

I said 38 year old Silva was inferior. Not prime Silva. How many more times will I have to repeat this? And like I said before, there is more to my life than MMA.

You again demonstrate your lack of knowledge by assuming that JDS is capable of cutting to LHW (lol) and assuming that Anderson is larger than his opponents (lol). The last person Anderson fought that was smaller than him was Demian Maia, in April of 2010. Everyone else was noticeably bigger.

Oh and btw: I never said Cain wasn't better than JDS. Please understand this, you're the only one who hasn't picked up on this yet.

I can't help but laugh that you actually think the only way Cain loses is if his opponent gets lucky. Cain has many weaknesses in his striking defense and has never proven that he knew how to defend a submission. He's not perfect, just like any other fighter.

I recommend you read these articles:

http://fightsgoneby.blogspot.com/2012/05/ufc-146-fight-like-dos-santos.html

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/12/21/3791428/ufc-155-cain-velasquez-junior-dos-santos-jack-slack-judo-chop

So im reading this thing.