The Official Shipping Debate Thread [merged]

Started by PrefectRonnykin191 pages

luna is alot like harry in many ways even if harry can't see it luna lost her mother but both ron and herm have their parents allthough neville would be a great person to talk to i still think luna is keeping something from everyone jk rowling is obviously having some fun with these new charecters.
maybye if harry could talk to luna more about what happened in her past he could see what might help him.
in the 5th book when james potter is doodleing on his test it says LM what does that mean? did she tell us or is she hiding another thing from us?

The fact that Hermione supports Harry, doesn't mean she loves him...yes hse understand the girls nature and all but that's it, pure friendship.
As for she and Ron that's more possible for being engaged!
Harry in the future I bet will stay with Ginny...as my opinion.

It's told to be ron and hermy but miss rowling has tricked us before by implying hagrid was the one to die in the 5th book i'm thinking hermiones going to end up w/ harry or stay w/ viktor

Azyne, dude, one time was enough. Multiple times is annoying. And as for Hermione not kissing Harry at the game, it's because it was Ron's first game and he was nervous, so that may have been a way to wish him luck. One might argue, why did Hermione kiss Harry at the end of GoF? That was never explained.

I've stated in another thread on this site that I'm a Harry/Hermione shipper and I gave my reasons, so I’m just going to leave that one alone for now.

Okay, as for the whole Harry/Ginny ship, this is what I think. We first meet Ginny in SS/PS and this is how the scene is played out:
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SS/PS: Chapter Six, Pg. 97 (US Edition)
“Hey, Mom, guess what? Guess who we just met on the train?”

Harry leaned back quickly so they couldn’t see him looking.

“You know that black-haired boy who was near us in the station? Know who he is?”

“Who?”

“Harry Potter!”

Harry heard the little girl’s voice.

“Oh, Mom, can I go on the train and see him. Mom, oh please…”
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This is where we are first introduced to Ginny Weasley and how she first meets Harry Potter ‘The Boy Who Lived,’ but when she first meets just Harry; she didn’t show any attention towards him, only after he was identified as “Harry Potter.” (When Hermione was introduced into the story and found out how he is the famous Harry Potter, she tells him that she’s read on him and in what books, but not once did she actually treat him differently because of the fame or look at his scar.) Even in CoS and in GoF, she likes him as a fan girl. Harry always treated her insensitively even after he realized that she had a crush on him. In GoF, when Harry was speaking to Ron on how Cho had turned him down for the Yule Ball, Ginny was right there with them or even in OotP when Harry and Ginny were having their ‘bonding moment’ over the whole Riddle experience in the library, he said to Ginny, “I forgot.’ If Harry was interested in Ginny, why would he forget what happened to her in her first year, especially when he saved her? Another part in OotP was when Ginny and Luna overheard Harry’s voice in an empty classroom and wanted to help, but he was firmly against it until Hermione told him that they could help. And with the whole Ron nudging Harry and Ginny together, I think that’s preposterous. I know I would not like my best friend hinting me to get with their brother when I have no feelings towards them. I say no feelings towards because I have found no evidence to say that Harry finds Ginny attractive or appealing in any way. I have read on other sites that the previous statement is true, but something will happen by the end of book 7 and it might be and they also add that why would J.K write Ginny having a crush on Harry for so long and I thought about that one because it’s a legit question. However, what I’ve come up with is that Ginny started in book 1 with a crush on Harry and that’s how we first meet the little Weasley sister and J.K. can’t just drop the whole crush thing, so she develops it more and that way she can introduce more of Ginny’s character and bring her into light. Anyway, that’s my theory on it, which doesn’t necessarily mean that she’s going to end up with Harry or that she’s not. J.K. was quoted on saying that Harry will end up with someone from the first book, so if it IS Ginny, then I’ll eat my words, but that does rule out Cho and Luna. I honestly think Luna was brought in for Ron because she shows a lot of interest in him. As for Ginny, I think she’s going to end up with Neville. He’s becoming a more prominent figure in the books as she is, so there may be some development in that department, assuming, of course, if that’s right.

The whole Harry/Cho thing is dead. J.K. killed it at the end of OotP with this:
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OotP: Chapter 28, pg 865 (US Edition)

“What’s –er—going on with you and her anyway?” Ron asked quietly.

“Nothing,” said Harry truthfully.

“I—er—heard she’s going out with someone else now,” said Hermione tentatively.

Harry was surprised to find that this information did not hurt at all. Wanting to impress Cho seemed to belong to a past that was no longer quite connected with him.
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That’s my two cents.

Guys, I'm really really sorry about all my spam. My computer was being a total ***** and it kept coming up as "Incorrect Server" blah blah so I didn't think it got sent. But I have something to say again...

"Harry always treated her insensitively even after he realized that she had a crush on him."
How do you know he's not just a mature kind of guy?

"...but when she first meets just Harry; she didn’t show any attention towards him, only after he was identified as Harry Potter."
And how do you know that that just means that Ginny isn't a shallow person? If she met a wonderful, perfect person who didn't look as great as his personality, she would probably like him. So she didn't recognise Harry as her crush the first second she saw him because she doesn't judge by looks.

"If Harry was interested in Ginny, why would he forget what happened to her in her first year, especially when he saved her?"
Well, let's consider. He just yelled at his best friends, scaring them almost into tears. He's got quite a lot on his mind, don't you think??? He probably wouldn't remember that someone in the same room had gone through the same thing; he was hot-headed, to put it simply.

"...J.K. can’t just drop the whole crush thing, so she develops it more and that way she can introduce more of Ginny’s character and bring her into light."
If this is true, then how did she just "drop it" during OotP? Ginny completely forgot about Harry in fifth year. Maybe the crush was still developing all through fourth year, because Ginny does like him (not because JK couldn't "drop it"😉, and the forgetting part was just an act.

"I honestly think Luna was brought in for Ron because she shows a lot of interest in him."
😘 Luna's too weird to be with either one. I think she'll remain a good friend.

"As for Ginny, I think she’s going to end up with Neville."
Again, 😘 Ginny is a growing woman, she knows what she wants, and it's not Neville. She said herself, the only reason she went with him to the Yule Ball was because she couldn't get in any other way.

Oh! That reminds me. When Ron suggested for himself to go with Hermione, and Harry to go with Ginny, neither Harry nor Ginny had anything bad to say about it. Harry simply stayed quiet during the whole thing, and Ginny went scarlet, proving that she probably did still have feelings for him at the time.

"The whole Harry/Cho thing is dead."
I agree. I hate Cho.

"People just want Harry to be with whoever they like."
Actually, that's not true at all. I really don't like Ginny, she just bugs me sometimes, but I know that she and Harry will end up together.

Malfoychick's picture is a fake.

"emma looks like she has a pole up herr a-- in the pic with her dan n the old guyy"
His name is Robbie Coltrane, and no she doesn't. It's called posing for a picture.

"are Daniel and emma dating?"
Nope. Fake pic.

"Whos the fat old guy incidently?"
Robbie Coltrane, he's an awesome guy, and definitely NOT disturbing!!

"or stay w/ viktor"
She's not WITH Viktor!!!

Really, H/H is like incest and I find it disgusting. If you guys can't see the signs between R/H, then you're blind, and if you think that JKR's more complex than to make it so obvious, well it's a possibility, but think about it. It's not a romance book. It's drama, angst, and lots of suspense, that's why she tricked us about Hagrid dying in OotP. I don't think she'd ever put so much thought into the love. And come on, Ron and Hermione, best friends of the hero, they're perfect!

I honestly don't know why some of you are into the idea of Harry and Hermoine ending up together. Just because Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe looks "real good" in the movies, does NOT mean their characters are right for each other. You may have read all the books, but I suspect that you're taking some stuff seriously and unrealistically. Harry have NEVER had any sparks or whatsoever with Hermoine. There was NO foreshadowing of Harry liking her as more than a friend, not even a little bit clue.

In all the interviews that I've watched and read (not only of JKR, but also the directors, producers, actors, and actresses of the HP movies), they've always mentioned "Ron and Hermoine," and NOT "Harry and Hermoine." With the exception of Caroline Rhea of course, who is such an idiot to say that Harry should end up with Hermoine just because Emma is a "cute little girl who is sooo like [her] girl because [they] both looove shopping!" 🙄 How bloody fantastic is that? *sarcasm* The clash of the dumb-blonde-old-hag witch and the brilliant-bushy-haired, self-centered little gal. (No offense)

Hermoine and Ron shall and might AND SHOULD end up together, not because of their bickerings but because you could truly see the tention between them by the jealousies.

In Ron's part, there were a lot of foreshadowings that he really does have feelings for Hermy as MORE than just a friend, OBVIOUSLY.

In Hermoine's part however, the tention with her and Ron kind of slowed down in the fifth book, and that made me a little bit suspicious. There were definitely foreshadowings of Hermoine paying more attention to Harry than she did Ron. Hmm? (Not much comment on this, but I hope it's just my imagination.)

As for Harry's part, there's deifnitely something going on with Ginny. He surely noticed how Ginny's behavior changed towards him, and that's one clue that Harry DOES care about how Ginny behaves around him 🙂 I'm a Harry/Ginny fan, so I hope they do end up together! They're just perfect for each other! I could list the reasons why, but I'm too lazy.

About Loony Luna, why do some of you guys keep on pairing her up with Harry? That never even occured in my mind. Correct me if I'm wrong but, Luna seemed to have a crush on Ron in the 5th book--- NOT Harry. 😕

Oh, and YES, Viktor! There is some possibilities that Hermoine might just end up with him for a while, but not for long 😛 ...

diddo

I am H/H all the way! There are definite signs that it could happen too:

-JK could have tried to clue us in by using Rita Skeeter. Remember that article that she wrote about Harry and Hermione dating? That could have been foreshadowing.
-Harry meeting Hermione on Valentines day despite his date with Cho. (Heh and we all know how that turned out)
-Both Krum and Cho were jealous of H/H's friendship.
And many other signs which I am too lazy to think up right now.

To the others who think that Ron is the only guy for her; there is no concrete proof that one guy is better for her than the next. It is simply a matter of opinion. Some people like H/H and some like R/H. Based on JK's interview, I have no doubt that it is going to be R/H since it is her book. However H/Hers can also find supporting evidence that our coupling could work to despite JK's opinion. 🙂

Originally posted by azyne
Actually, that's not true at all. I really don't like Ginny, she just bugs me sometimes, but I know that she and Harry will end up together.

Yeah, who thought she would turn into such a slu... I mean, who would think she that she would turn out to be that kind of person... who does that thing...

"Harry always treated her insensitively even after he realized that she had a crush on him."
How do you know he's not just a mature kind of guy?

Please tell me you meant immature and how do you know he is?

"...but when she first meets just Harry; she didn’t show any attention towards him, only after he was identified as Harry Potter."
And how do you know that that just means that Ginny isn't a shallow person? If she met a wonderful, perfect person who didn't look as great as his personality, she would probably like him. So she didn't recognise Harry as her crush the first second she saw him because she doesn't judge by looks.

You just contradicted yourself, dude. She never knew his personality. She only knew him because of what he did when he was a baby.

"If Harry was interested in Ginny, why would he forget what happened to her in her first year, especially when he saved her?"
Well, let's consider. He just yelled at his best friends, scaring them almost into tears. He's got quite a lot on his mind, don't you think??? He probably wouldn't remember that someone in the same room had gone through the same thing; he was hot-headed, to put it simply.

That’s a whole lot of shit to forget even for a, simply put, hot tempered kid.

"...J.K. can’t just drop the whole crush thing, so she develops it more and that way she can introduce more of Ginny’s character and bring her into light."
If this is true, then how did she just "drop it" during OotP? Ginny completely forgot about Harry in fifth year. Maybe the crush was still developing all through fourth year, because Ginny does like him (not because JK couldn't "drop it"😉, and the forgetting part was just an act.

Maybe she completely forgot about him because she realized that she had no chance with Harry fancying Cho.

Here’s an exert from the Order of the Phoenix book:

"But," said Ron, following Hermione along a row of quills in copper pots, "I thought Ginny fancied Harry!" Hermione looked at him rather pityingly and shook her head. "Ginny used to fancy Harry, but she gave up on him months ago. Not that she doesn't like you, of course," she added kindly to Harry while she examined a long, black-and-gold quill. Harry, whose mind was still full of Cho's parting wave, did not find this subject quite as interesting as Ron, who was positively quivering with indignation, but it did bring something home to him that until now he had not really registered. "So that's why she talks now?" he asked Hermione. "She never used to talk in front of me." "Exactly," said Hermione.

"As for Ginny, I think she’s going to end up with Neville."
Again, Ginny is a growing woman, she knows what she wants, and it's not Neville. She said herself, the only reason she went with him to the Yule Ball was because she couldn't get in any other way.

Oh! That reminds me. When Ron suggested for himself to go with Hermione, and Harry to go with Ginny, neither Harry nor Ginny had anything bad to say about it. Harry simply stayed quiet during the whole thing, and Ginny went scarlet, proving that she probably did still have feelings for him at the time.

I'm not saying she likes Neville now, but she could later on. I agree Ginny still had her crush on Harry, but Harry didn’t say anything because he was distracted when Parvati and Lavender entered the room. It says in the book, “The time had come for drastic action,” so it’s possible he didn’t care who he went with as long as it was with someone.

dont u hav better pics on them?
*grin*

and...
dans face makes a dreamy look...
<but emma and dan isnt hermy and harry, i know - i'm for cho&harry or hermy&harry 😉>

lol emma has a really bad fashion sence..

didn't it say 'LE' meaning Lily Evans

Right on, I mean, look at what she is wearing in Eezy45's pic, JEEZUS!

I'm actually a Ron/Hermione shipper.
Up until after reading Prisoner of Azkaban, I hadn't really noticed .

Then someone brought up that sparks fly between Hermione and Ron, and then I reread it through with that state of mind, and I was like, hey yeah.

You know whats really disturbing? When you reread LOTR with a Sam/Frodo state of mind, after that you can never look at the movies the same way again.

ME AND SUSAN BONES!!!!!!

MWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

*runs away before the men from St Mungos can catch him*

Originally posted by furious_socks
lol emma has a really bad fashion sence..

Hey, she was eleven then! 😉

and what would you say about...
erm...
this one?
okie, its not what everybody wears, but it looks nice, and is good combinated - one and a half year later...
<okey. this discussion needs another thread...>