I saw Tool in Chicago, amazing show, poor Maynard was sick as you all know, but he performed on anyway, and was nothing short of spectacular. Also before they played The Pot, Maynard said "My doctor told me not to perform this song, but you make great pizza, so **** him" and they played it. Rather amazing, they also said good bye after three of their songs, but didn't leave, it was great. Seeing Danny Carey play was astounding, and watching Justin Chancellor play his bass solo in Jambi was awesome. And Maynard was so animated during all the songs, expecially Rosetta Stoned. It was an amazing experience, and I hope to see them again.
Also anyone's show get cancelled?
Originally posted by Dragonnishe laso mentioned the bears!!!
I saw Tool in Chicago, amazing show, poor Maynard was sick as you all know, but he performed on anyway, and was nothing short of spectacular. Also before they played The Pot, Maynard said "My doctor told me not to perform this song, but you make great pizza, so **** him" and they played it. Rather amazing, they also said good bye after three of their songs, but didn't leave, it was great. Seeing Danny Carey play was astounding, and watching Justin Chancellor play his bass solo in Jambi was awesome. And Maynard was so animated during all the songs, expecially Rosetta Stoned. It was an amazing experience, and I hope to see them again.Also anyone's show get cancelled?
He was quite animated, except for the when he layed down through a whole song.
Unfortunately, I still feel Tool is vastly overrated, and some of their fans come off as elitist, existential intellectuals who can't appreciate the views of those who share my opinion. The bands craftsmanship is near perfect, but that kind of accolade is to be expected after carrying the same signature structure for almost 2 decades. I feel that they're the least progressive prog-rock band around. That's not discrediting MJK's intellect, or any of the other members contributions, as they're all sound musicans, respectively.
Tool are bringing their closest competition along with them on their European tour, in Mastodon. It's a shame that that they're being touted as heavy metal's next big thing, which is undermining their talents by a great degree.
Originally posted by Dragonnis
I saw Tool in Chicago, amazing show, poor Maynard was sick as you all know, but he performed on anyway, and was nothing short of spectacular. Also before they played The Pot, Maynard said "My doctor told me not to perform this song, but you make great pizza, so **** him" and they played it. Rather amazing, they also said good bye after three of their songs, but didn't leave, it was great. Seeing Danny Carey play was astounding, and watching Justin Chancellor play his bass solo in Jambi was awesome. And Maynard was so animated during all the songs, expecially Rosetta Stoned. It was an amazing experience, and I hope to see them again.Also anyone's show get cancelled?
My friend had tickets to the show in Madison (the night after the one in Chicago), and it was canceled.
He killed his voice singing The Pot at our concert 😛
The bands craftsmanship is near perfect, but that kind of accolade is to be expected, given the lack of any chartable evolution in their sound, even after 3 years off the scene.
I....what?
I just mean that I'm a pretty firm believer in "if it's not broke, don't fix it". Prog-rock has always been the Greenland of the music industry. Always sounded appealing, but hardly ever ventured into successfully. Tool did that, but after so long, they just seem to have become complacent, and not much changed in the 3 years they took off. Tool seem like a band capable of evolving musically, but I never really heard much of it past "Aenima", and I've been listening to them for a good 12 years now.
The fact that you are boxing them in as progressive rock dooms your opinion of Tool from the start. I respect your right to that opinion, but by holding it you're not demonstrating anything besides the fact that you're missing the point.
I love Tool, and I understand (and like) that they aren't for everyone, but just because you don't see what's going on, doesn't mean it isn't going on. Mastodon are nothing close to Tool, that's another area that proves you're missing a lot of what Tool do. Mastodon are just more obvious than Tool. I adore Mastodon, but that's exactly what they are.
Tool's genius lies in the idea of "If you get it and pick up on it, you do. If you don't you won't ever get it.". Mastodon have middle ground, Tool don't. You obviously like Tool, I'm not implying you don't, but you obviously like them passively, and they're not that kind of band. You can passively enjoy Mastodon and still get the full extent. I could listen to Blood Mountain three times and rest assured that the fourth or fifth won't yield anything new to me. You can't do that with Tool albums.
-AC
I appreciate that Tool are prog-rock only in the commercial sense. I'm not going to try and match wits or try and comment on the intellectual depth of the band for the sake of their categorization. They have had no boundaries, and that's being modest.
As far as Mastodon goes, I'm pretty focused on the band at the moment, so I may sound a little naive. By "closest competition", generally/commercially speaking, I feel they're on their way. Chord progression, structure, influences, granted not as lyrically rich, but they are pretty diverse and unique. It's kind of like a sports division with 3 teams in it, with one undefeated and one that's 1-9, but still in second place. Competition isn't always right on the top dogs tail, so to speak.
I'll admit I haven't fully grasped Tool's mantra. To appreciate their music, the actual drums, guitar, and bass is to listen to it and say "Hey! That's unique. That's incredible." The stuff you can't deny when you try and make comparisons. To understand and comprehend is a totally different thing, and since I feel they go hand in hand, it's frustrating to follow, and borders on feeling PRESSURED to do so to fully enjoy all they have to offer.
Maybe one day they'll start offering degrees in psychology with their albums.
Originally posted by The Core
I appreciate that Tool are prog-rock only in the commercial sense. I'm not going to try and match wits or try and comment on the intellectual depth of the band for the sake of their categorization. They have had no boundaries, and that's being modest.As far as Mastodon goes, I'm pretty focused on the band at the moment, so I may sound a little naive. By "closest competition", generally/commercially speaking, I feel they're on their way. Chord progression, structure, influences, granted not as lyrically rich, but they are pretty diverse and unique. It's kind of like a sports division with 3 teams in it, with one undefeated and one that's 1-9, but still in second place. Competition isn't always right on the top dogs tail, so to speak.
Mastodon are very good on their instruments, and they are more importantly very good at using their technical ability to CREATIVELY progress. Instead of trying to play circles around each other, they use what they do to progress musically. Member to member, none of them compare to the members of Tool, especially when you consider Tool are an traditional instrument three piece; Guitar, bass and drums. Compared to Mastodon's twin guitar, bass drums and double vocalists.
They won't progress much further than Blood Mountain, Tool did ages ago. You could hold Undertow up to Blood Mountain and have it surpass it, in my opinion. I love both bands, and I'm seeing them both in November, but they're not in the same league.
Originally posted by The Core
I'll admit I haven't fully grasped Tool's mantra. To appreciate their music, the actual drums, guitar, and bass is to listen to it and say "Hey! That's unique. That's incredible." The stuff you can't deny when you try and make comparisons. To understand and comprehend is a totally different thing, and since I feel they go hand in hand, it's frustrating to follow, and borders on feeling PRESSURED to do so to fully enjoy all they have to offer.
You feel the go hand in hand, and whenever you've discussed Tool you simply prove that they lack something you feel you need in your musical experience, and that's fine, but it doesn't mean they lack progression.
Originally posted by The Core
Maybe one day they'll start offering degrees in psychology with their albums.
As said previously, I'm not referring to the lyrics at all, I'm referring to the music.
-AC