Holes in The Matrix Movies

ever heard of bullsh!tting?

You haven't answered my question.

Maybe he thought that he could have beaten Smith.

he thought? sounds not like what the one will be. nvm, no matter he have beaten Smith or not, he will flown away to get off finally. Why not just get outta earlier?

Originally posted by bazooka
You haven't answered my question.

with all the possibiliteis within the matrix, wouldn't you say that when neo said he is aware of smith's existence, there was a possibility that he was bullsh!ting him? i mean that takes out a lot psychologically... the element of surprise is taken away from smith. and by the looks of the burly brawl, neo was completely unaware of smith's full potetial. it is also possible that in the back of neo's mind that smith still exists but he doesn't acknowledge or denies the fact that he does.

and the confrontation that was the burly brawl... it was all mental. neo thought "well, i beat the sh!t outta him before, i could do it again... doesn't really matter how many." he was there to prove that it doesn't matter to him how many smiths are there... he is still the ONE and he is still unbeatable. the fact that they are equal didn't really cross his mind until his last visit to the oracle... "he is you. your opposite..."

ok, quite logic.
but y Smith cannot duplicate neo into himself at m2 but able in m3?

because neo finally understood-- with the help of the oracle, of course-- that the only way to defeat smith is for him to sacrifice himself. he could've done the same thing and stop smith from taking over his shell like he did in M2, but they would just keep on fighting... which would be pointless because they're true equals.

Indeed, the fight would of continued into eternity, there can be no true winner, there had to be a sacrifice.

hmm...if so then why neo need to fight after he understand all these in the end of rev, y not just make himself beaten without wasting any time?

because it wasn't until the Oracle said, through Smith, "Everything that has a beginning has an end, Neo" that he truly understood what he had to do.

U mean Neo stil don't know the solution when the last fight until smith/oracle said the words?

Neo: You cannot stop him, but I can.
Deus Ex Machina: We don't need you. We need nothing.
Neo: If that's true, then I've made a mistake and you should kill me now.
Deus Ex Machina: And if you fail?
Neo: I won't.

Then why does neo so sure through the conversation above, as if he understand what he had to do?

Originally posted by bazooka
U mean Neo stil don't know the solution when the last fight until smith/oracle said the words?

Neo: You cannot stop him, but I can.
Deus Ex Machina: We don't need you. We need nothing.
Neo: If that's true, then I've made a mistake and you should kill me now.
Deus Ex Machina: And if you fail?
Neo: I won't.

Then why does neo so sure through the conversation above, as if he understand what he had to do?

Maybe he was bluffing. He wanted to fight Smith this one last time and try to beat him, but the only way to would be through the Deus Ex Machina. If Neo said "I'll do my best not to fail" then I doubt he would have been given the chance.

Neo could have been bluffing, there is also the possibility that Neo believed in himself and his abilities so much that he believed that he could beat Smith.

That conversation indicates nothing, Neo was eager to kick the crap out of Smith and he was simply trying to establish peace with the machines, he was upset about Trinity and had no thoughts of giving up, so at that moment Neo was ready to fight until he won at any cost, not until he heard the words from the Oracle through Smith did he understand that he could not win.

He wasn't bluffing.

Oracle: And if you can't find the answer, then I'm afraid there may be no tomorow for any of us.
Neo: What does that mean?
Oracle: Everything that has a beginning has an end. I see the end coming. I see the darkness spreading. I see death. And you are all that stands in his way.
Neo: Smith.

It's not the first time oracle mention the words, neo supposed understand early not until smith/oracle said it again, isn't?

there are different levels of understanding. Understanding on a usable level and complete understanding are two totally different things, and it isn't until laying in the crater does he achieve true understanding. As we can see with the Cross made of light on Neo's chest, and again with the Lotus blossom of light, Neo has changed, transcended, become enlightened.

if neo need to fight smith to get peace, why must through Deus Ex Machina? Why not just plug in?

first off, he had no access to the matrix other than DEM. secondly, smith needed to be touched by the source to be deleted. the anti-smith program was only available to the matrix through neo being jacked in by DEM.

if you'd recall, when smith and neo had their conversation in the park, he said that after "destroying" neo, he was to go back to the source to be deleted because his purpose was served. but he "was compelled to stay. compelled to disobey." which brings us to another fun fact that smith is an exile.

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