Juggernaut or The Hulk?

"so you think maestro could beat a 100 ft tall juggernaut... who's power and strength grew in proportion to his size??? i find that funny..."

Happy for you. Considering the Maestro is twice as strong as Hulk has ever been up till now, yeah.

"oh, i guess i did want to comment on another thing. you said stop refering to everybody but juggernaut. i'm just relating to you that you said hulk could beat LT in an arm wrestling match, but he couldnt beat thing"

You brought up arm wrestling though. Thing has lost to Hulk in every fight they've had.

"hulk and juggernaut are one in the same. both physical rivals in strength. they both attack in the same way, so the only way to compare (besides there battles with each other) is the battles with like opponents.

such as thing, and thor...."

I don't agree they are physical rivals. We've done that.

Secondly, Hulk has beat Thing and Thor gave up when he was having no effect.

"Juggernaut withstood Thor's Godforce". Yeah, once. Doesn't stroll around going "Dee de dee. Godforce to the chest again? Sure thing."

-AC

To be honest, I reckon these two would just throw eachother about without really hurting eachother. The Hulk can't really scratch Jug's armour and doesn't have any psionic/magic powers to negate the Gem. At the same time, I can't see Jugs having the strength to damage Hulk.

Eventually Hulk would get bored and leave. A shaken but unharmed Jugs would call him a coward and proclaim himself the victor, lol! Who agrees?

You all wreak of burnt cabbage...& charred cheestring's.

Thankyou for that reply. We are all very challenged and refreshed by your unique point of view....

😄

And who doesn't like cheesestrings lol?

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
To be honest, I reckon these two would just throw eachother about without really hurting eachother. The Hulk can't really scratch Jug's armour and doesn't have any psionic/magic powers to negate the Gem. At the same time, I can't see Jugs having the strength to damage Hulk.

Eventually Hulk would get bored and leave. A shaken but unharmed Jugs would call him a coward and proclaim himself the victor, lol! Who agrees?

That's pretty much my standpoint.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

"Juggernaut withstood Thor's Godforce". Yeah, once. Doesn't stroll around going "Dee de dee. Godforce to the chest again? Sure thing."

-AC

Regardless, thats alot more than the hulk can say...

And Id owe that ability to Juggernauts innate magics, now lets see Hulk... does he have the power of the Godforce? Because if Juggey has withstood it doesnt that mean hed need more than it?

i'm tired of trying to prove my points, it seems i'm providing cold hard facts (pictures) of why hulk was able to stop juggernaut. but some people will refute this. unwilling to give any ground what so ever. then you all claim hulk is stronger... but you have no proof except "eventually" or "madder stronger". which is NOT comic knowledge. if you want to argue with my points, and the writers, please disprove this :

http://www.geocities.com/pic_housing/Juggy_vote1.txt

and this :

http://www.geocities.com/pic_housing/Juggy_vote2.txt

till you disprove it with cold hard facts, not your opinion, i dont think it worthy we continue this debate.

And those are from Hulk #424 and #461, for anyone that wants to call it bullsh*t.

"And Id owe that ability to Juggernauts innate magics, now lets see Hulk... does he have the power of the Godforce? Because if Juggey has withstood it doesnt that mean hed need more than it?"

Why is it ok for you to latch onto that ONE thing that happened ONE time, yet I cannot do the same?

Besides, you are so blatantly anti-hulk it's not even funny. You actually have some deep rooted Hulk hatred.

"it seems i'm providing cold hard facts (pictures) of why hulk was able to stop juggernaut. "

Pictures do not equate to being cold hard fact.

Secondly, on the Q&A thing.

They said he CAN call upon the power of Cyttorak. It doesn't actually mean he will get it all. Secondly, if Cyttorak is limitless then there can be no force stronger than it, including THOTU and the combined might of the INFINITY gems, correct? Yes. And is that true?

Second one: I swear he says at the end "It remains unanswered".

Whilst I agree with both of those excerpts for the most par, all they are saying is that it's unanswered and that Juggernaut's strength comes down to Cyttorak, which I never removed.

Why do you think published opinions are any more credible than those posted on here or anyone else? That's all it is. Whilst the fact that they write for Marvel makes their opinion obviously more credible (and I'm not denying them that, I have absolutely no right to) it still is just that.

They said it was unproved and undecided.

-AC

Originally posted by KillAll
i'm tired of trying to prove my points, it seems i'm providing cold hard facts (pictures) of why hulk was able to stop juggernaut. but some people will refute this. unwilling to give any ground what so ever. then you all claim hulk is stronger... but you have no proof except "eventually" or "madder stronger". which is NOT comic knowledge. if you want to argue with my points, and the writers, please disprove this :

http://www.geocities.com/pic_housing/Juggy_vote1.txt

and this :

http://www.geocities.com/pic_housing/Juggy_vote2.txt

till you disprove it with cold hard facts, not your opinion, i dont think it worthy we continue this debate.

If only Cain was willing to explore his powers.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If only Cain was willing to explore his powers.

Well he sort of did at one point, didn't last very long though.

All the reply to the first letter says is that current ---->opinion<---, aka not at the moment, and not fact, among those few writers, was that Juggernaut was stronger. Doesn't prove the outcome of the fight, because Hulk has limitless strength- that alone didn't guarantee him the win.

All the second one says is that Apocalyspe increased his strength. I haven't seen anyone dispute that, so I don't see what it proves.

Well, some people have disputed it, not lately though.

"juggernout would kick hulks ass big time if u have actualy READ the comics THE JUGGERNOUT CONNOT BE STOPED I REPEAT HE CONNOT BE STOPPED yea hulk would get mad but where would that get him yea he'll say gur growl and mabye land A punch but the juggernout cannot be stoped hulk is strong but i will say it one last time JUGGERNOUT CANNOT BE STOPPED DEAL WITH IT"

First of all, when Hulk gets mad, he doesn't just growl a little bit. Second, just saying that Juggernaut can't be stopped doesn't prove anything. I could say "PLASTIC MAN CANNOT BE STOPPED" if I wanted to, that doesn't make it true. If that's your only argument than I side with Hulk.

I find it quite the funny indication that when someone posts a pro-Jugg thing (which is still inconclusive) like those letters, they reply with a dancing banana and start partying.

When someone posts something pro-Hulk, it's far less to get excited about.

Maybe a coincidence.

-AC

I think that pokemon, (pocket monsters) are utilizing my keyhole as a home...has anyone else had this problem?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I find it quite the funny indication that when someone posts a pro-Jugg thing (which is still inconclusive) like those letters, they reply with a dancing banana and start partying.

When someone posts something pro-Hulk, it's far less to get excited about.

Maybe a coincidence.

-AC

Sure is....sure is.

-AC

guys were treading old carpet.
* hulk is very durable whoever argued that with me ( heals faster the angrier he gets to a poinyt of almost instant healing)
*dont keep bringing up those editor remarks theyre not at all withing context of hulkas a character and certainly not marvels standpoint. also theyre innaccurate as juggie is not famed so much for his strength as for his durability, thats his character so there we are, hulk was created and developed as a charecter to be the one being in marvel capable of the impossible when it comes down to strength and raw physiacal power, so much as yes he has had scrapes with lesser characters tha havent gone as he would like,yet he still comes up trumps when required to. this being said having him get so powerful through anger he actually overpowers juggies cytorak magic is not unlikely. cyttorak isnt infinite either as there are others more powerful. hulk has no better when it comes to how strong he can get.
* apoc just wanted to see what hulk would be like if he could get at his limitless power instantly basically, and chose juggie to test him on
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