Juggernaut or The Hulk?

It doesn't have to be maestro. Don't they all have the potential for "infinite" strenght? what's infinity times 2, really?

Infinity times two is double infinity.

I don't know wether to laugh or cry, instead i'll just go to sleep.

Don't sleep for too many infinities.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hulk is just as strong as strong, and as durable as Juggernaut. According to the Marvel Encyclopedia, Hulk and Juggernaut both have "Incalculable" strength and are "Virtually Indestructable." Juggernaut or Hulk can both be knocked out by sufficient (but extremely powerful) blunt force.

Interesting.

Care to share with WHEN Juggernaut has ever been knocked out by a sufficiently blunt force?

Don't think it's ever happened yet.

As for Hulk being stronger. The ONLY time Hulk has physically dominated Juggernaut was when he was War Hulk. Every single other time, they traded blows back and forth as equals. I'm willing to admit that Hulk is stronger than Juggernaut, but this "infinite strength" argument is getting extremely boring and old. In all his infinite strength Hulk has NEVER knocked Juggernaut to the point where he was so hurt he couldn't get up...nor has he ever knocked Juggernaut out.

Juggernauts Way Cooler Than Hulk im tired of the same old hulk runnin around smashin everything

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Interesting.

Care to share with WHEN Juggernaut has ever been knocked out by a sufficiently blunt force?

Don't think it's ever happened yet.

As for Hulk being stronger. The ONLY time Hulk has physically dominated Juggernaut was when he was War Hulk. Every single other time, they traded blows back and forth as equals. I'm willing to admit that Hulk is stronger than Juggernaut, but this "infinite strength" argument is getting extremely boring and old. In all his infinite strength Hulk has NEVER knocked Juggernaut to the point where he was so hurt he couldn't get up...nor has he ever knocked Juggernaut out.

Thank you very much.

He's also never shown that infinite strength in an encounter, so it's a valid point. Past form can only show so much.

Hulk would never have the strength to physically damage Juggs. He might have the POTENTIAL to, but that's a different matter.

In a proper squared up standoff, neither of these two would give any ground.

Hulk would get bored and leave.

Im pretty sure NO one has the strength to hurt Juggernaut.

I kinda stopped debating here because Alpha is so stuck up on the fact The hulk has infinite strength, and he still hasnt told me how that would help when fighting someone completely immune to all physical attack.

Hell, he hasnt even explained why he thinks the hulk can beat Juggernaut.

wasn't juggy knocked out by onslaught prior to "onslaught MU" when he got punched for miles

No, you must be thinking of a bit of bad writing.

He was, Onslaught stripped the gem from inside his chest, but he had to use psionics, not normal strength because he couldnt penetrate him!

There's a difference between being knocked out and physically damaged.

And whether anyone at all has the strength to hurt Jugs is debatable. Personally, I don't think anyone without Psychic powers/magic can hurt him.

You could have Supes come flying in at the speed of light to deliver a massive flying punch, that'd impact with a million tons per square inch force and pound Jugs through the Earth's crust, through the mantle and the superhopt core, out the otherside and into cold space.... and the Juggernaut would still be alive...

The magic grants him invulnerability and there's no way that Hulk can counter that...

Though I'm not saying that Jugsb could win - just that he can't lose either...

Alpha continually comes back with the fact Hulk has infinite strength, so what?

Come on Alpha, explain, HOW is this gonna help?

I think he feels that infinite strength will cancel out infinite durability. It's possible... But I don't think it works that way, because the Gem of Cytorrack takes Jugs 'above' physical harm. Not just 'increases' his durability...

Well, a punch at normal strength wont phase him, why would more force to the punch hurt him?

When you think about it, it cant... Because a normal punch at say, 100 pounds of force wont phase juggernaut, so why would more strength change that?

It may knock him back but if hes resistant...

You know, its just easier to say this is stupid.

Yup. It's like Spitting on a fish. Spit all you want, it on't notice.

"Come on Alpha, explain, HOW is this gonna help?"

Infinate strength, how will it help?

A good question IRTMU, but one that is indeed easy to answer.

You continually say "Juggernaut is resistant to physical harm". I never disagreed. However, having INFINITE STRENGTH doesn't JUST mean that you can damage the hell out of things. It also ties in with durability. Something with infinite strength has absolutely off-the-chart durability.

While Hulk may not be able to physically harm him, his infinite strength will continue to increse regardless and as a result, his healing power accelerates. The stronger Hulk gets, the more he can take, to be perfectly accurate. People all too often say separate strength and durability. They are not one and the same but they most certainly are not different.

When I talk of his infinite strength IRTMU, you obviously mistook me to mean that he can deal out pure damage. He can, but I never insinuated that he would gain a win off it. It helps him in many more ways than offense.

"You know, its just easier to say this is stupid."

It got stupid when you resorted to chickens and trains theories.

-AC

tron i repeat my opinion as it happens to be the key to this debate, also the answer so many on here seem to be looking for. also its not OPINION really as its just looking at the question with a modicum of intelligence, something u probably find hard to do, shame. at the end of the day hulk is stronger than anyone should he need to be written taht way, something that cant be said for most, if any of the other heros and thats how he has been developed. as for getting so strong as to overpower cyttoraks power why is this so hard to believe to be possible????? perfectly logical really