*sigh*
Christ....
Hulk and Juggy fight for a bit. Hulk wrestles Juggy's helmet off, like Angel did, and throws it far away somewhere. They continue trading punches until Hulk thunderclaps Juggy in the ears until he passes out like he did against Nimrod.
There you have it. No "infinite strength" vs. "infinite durability" crap. Sonics take down Juggy, Hulk creates sonics, Hulk goes home.
Now everybody else go home, too.
tron, firstly im not saying ANy hero can be wrietten to do nything, ie spidey cannot win against say collosus by lifting a mountain up and trapping him underit, its outside his character , his power level if u like. all im saying is hulk as a character does not have this boundry, he is created to be able to draw enough power ( should the story require ) to beat , well virtually anyone ( in a brawl, physically), also to be able to take virtually any punishment dished out to him. the fact he has been knoccked down, or drawn blanks against certain heros is because hulk is in literally hundreds of comics, juggie is only in a fraction of what hulk is, therefore not as likely to be shown as vulnerable. comon sense really. another point is juggie is not that strong, his power is really incredible durability ( which maybe u could argue matches hulks strength potential) and the ability to run in a particular direction without being stopped ( a silly power really). he also ha superhuman strength ranging from 80 to the 100 tonne level, obviously has also gone outside this though no to the same levels as hulk. basically its hulk the ultimate in physical punishment v juggie the ultimate in physical invulnerability.
* heres why i think hulk takes it within the boundries of character , juggie is impervious to physicakl assault, yet requires a forcefield???
* hulk has no limit to his strength, juggies '' limitless invulnerability'' is from cyttorak , now this magic is not unlimited, as there are more powerful magics in the mu. incredibly powerful maybe, however hulk has the ability to be un limited in his assault on juggie , i think this is the clincher.
* hulk is far to durable for juggie to harm ( on the whole) and gets tougher as he gets angrier. juggie is not strong enough to harm him. ( savage ) that means juggie just becomes a target. hulk then has to reach a crtain level of strength to be able to actually harm juggie as has a limitless gstrength vat to draw from. eventually he will reach this, especially if he is majorly pissed. this is based within the characters themselves. not a made up opinion tron, dont try that old chestnut every time you are backed into a corner. hulk could easily be written ( within his character) betaing juggie should writers need a hero to do this. obviously it makes more sense for business having stalemates, this sells more comics. however where as i see it within hulks ability ( drawing on his limitless raw power) i dont see how u expect juggie to be able to beat him. his strength /raw physical power is not unlimited. either juggie is gonna get tossed around like a beach ball coz hulk cnat each the level of strength required to hurt him ( unlikely in a long battle) or juggie is gonna end up being hurt as hulk reaches the necassary strength level however high, to do this. more likely is a cameo from prof x to mangle juggies mind, or hulks and leave us with more uncertainties.
Originally posted by x_danny_x
say Tron, who beat the crap out of the Hulk????
Let me also say that while Abomination has gave Hulk a fight, Hulk has almost killed and near fatally wounded Abomination as a result.
Superman beat Hulk by fan votes, so it would suggest that there are more Superman fans and/or fan BOYS than for Hulk. In the CO-WRITTEN comic, created solely for the two of them to fight, it wasn't nearly as similar as the fan voted one. Superman approach Hulk and got sent flying. That fight never really had a clear winner. Both combatants beat the shit out of each other.
Thought I'd raise those points.
-AC
I think Alpha Centuri is talking about the latest Crossover between the Hulk and Superman that happend in 1996!
Anyway, like many times it has been said, Crossovers are bad and Superman and Gladiator have all the tools to beat the crap out of the Hulk and sent his ass packing!
hmmmmmmmm didnt know the Hulk got his ass beaten by the same people he sometimes defeated but also got knocked out! Thanks KillAll
Originally posted by K3VIL
Can i answer for him?Hal Jordan a.k.a. Green Lantern stomp him with a giant dinosaur created from his ring.Superman btc out of the Hulk.Also Ravage did it.Abomination too.And many others.
The last Juggernaut, the one with half or less of his powers, can be knocked unconscious.But the old Juggy has never been knocked unconscious by a physical force, even War Hulk wasn't able to do it.
On the other side, Hulk has been knocked unconscious times and times.
Green Latern
you mean this???
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Coz he knew you'd take it how you did.Alot of people have a habit of making the mistake that just creating offense is as decisive as ending a fight.
-AC
"The Abomination gained greater strength than the Hulk at the latter's "normal" level of strength, and, unlike the Hulk, Abomination retained his full human intelligence, and could not transform back into a normal human form. Infatuated with his new found power, the Abomination beat the Hulk (into whom Banner had again changed) nearly to death, and kidnapped Betty Ross. General Ross was so fearful for his daughter's safety that he ordered that the Hulk be revived so the latter could pursue the Abomination. When Banner's confidant Rick Jones pleaded with the Hulk for help, the Hulk broke free from the Stranger's mental control and reverted once more to Banner. Acting with General Ross's cooperation, Banner activated a powerful gamma radiation generating device he had invented directly upon the Abomination, thereby causing the latter's strength to diminish rapidly."
This is all nice but who won, significantly, both fights?
The Hulk.
-AC