Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Juggernaut is not immune to all physical attacks. He has been injured (punched, stabbed, etc.,) and he has certainly felt pain when fighting Hulk.

Stabbed by a magical sword(shatterstar?). He's never been hurt by a punch that wasnt backed by magic.

"Limitless strength isn't what it takes?"
It sure isnt, strength means nothing to jug, only psi attack or magic attacks, and the hulk has niether.

Lets say hulk can get strong enough to negate jugs power, it would take days and days to get that strong.

It took hulk hours and hours to to get as strong as Thor, they were in the strength lock and it took 4 hours before hulk could push thor back a little.

My point is: Jugs would knock hulk out waaaay before hulk could get strong enough to negate jugs magic, which I say is impossible in the first place.

hmmmm.

hmmm indeed.

WHO CARES. Goku would serve both of those suckers. So it doesn't even matter anymore.

GOKU? Big Bang attack ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Goku: I'm running out of power....I'm finished...my body is fired...Gohan...your gonna have to be the man of the house now son...
(he fades away.)

You mean Juggernaut vS Hulk, not Goku right?

Just as the topic reads?

Hulk.

As someone who has actually been here since this thread was created, and as a person who has actually read every arguement put forward in this thread....I've come to the conclusion....

It's a draw.

You can argue either way until you're face is purple and blue, but the fact of the matter is, based on the limited number of fights these two have engaged in against one another, and based on how vastly different each writer portrays each character....there isn't sufficient enough evidence to provide a convincing arguement about who would win.

Originally posted by long pig
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Juggernaut is not immune to all physical attacks. He has been injured (punched, stabbed, etc.,) and he has certainly felt pain when fighting Hulk.

Stabbed by a magical sword(shatterstar?). He's never been hurt by a punch that wasnt backed by magic.

"Limitless strength isn't what it takes?"
It sure isnt, strength means nothing to jug, only psi attack or magic attacks, and the hulk has niether.

Lets say hulk can get strong enough to negate jugs power, it would take days and days to get that strong.

It took hulk hours and hours to to get as strong as Thor, they were in the strength lock and it took 4 hours before hulk could push thor back a little.

My point is: Jugs would knock hulk out waaaay before hulk could get strong enough to negate jugs magic, which I say is impossible in the first place.

If Hulk has never made juggernaut feel pain with a punch, why is Juggy on his knees in 404? "Playing possum?" Hah. If you are immune to physical damage, why the hell do you need to "play possum?"

Actually, Juggernaut's brain is vulnerable to physical attack. When Nimrod hit Juggy with a sonic attack (which is physical, not psionic,) it knocked him out. Logically, a barrage of punches could have the same physical effect on Juggernaut's brain.

I agree Linkalicious.

If we want to talk about "logic" then lets think about what a fist in the stomache would do to Juggernaut.

It wouldn't knock him to his knees....it would send him flying backwards.

If the best example of Juggernaut being hurt that you can come up with is "uggghhf" then I'm going to go ahead and say...yah, he can't be hurt.

Mention the What If? one shot where a Sentiel blasts him in the back....atleast he screamed when that happened. though that time he admitted to playing opossum.

Either way, in a comic previous to Hulk 404, Hulk openly admitted that he had to use silt from the bottom of that little lake/pool in order to save his own life.

What's to stop a similar situation from occuring? In an anything goes environment Hulk can die via from falling into lava, being drown, being in space, or falling in quick sand. Juggernaut cannot.

Notice i even added something for Hulk there. I'm fairly confident that I can counter a statement made by both characters after being in this thread for so long.

Nimrod never knocked juggernaut out, he wasnt unconsious when he hit him with that beam. If i have to scan to prove i will. a barrage of punches wouldnt be able to do the same. The fight will be pretty much dead even. Like i have said it before though Hulk would win the fight in normal means, but if the fight gets real long, just like there first fight with the savage hulk, juggernaut will win. Hulk will eventually get tired like in the first fight, and his strength will decrease.

Basically the fight starts juggernaut being stronger so if juggernaut cant knockout the hulk in this period of time, then he is in for a world of trouble.

If the hulk isnt knocked out, the mid point of the fight hulks strength surpassess juggernauts by tenfold, and he knocks him around like a toy,The hulk will need this period of time to find some way to get rid of the juggernaut, AT this point hulks strength will simply overpower juggernaut, simply not allowing juggernaut to do anything to him, so hulk needs to get rid of him some how. maybe tossing him across the city or state etc. If he does not then he is in for big trouble, cause this is his window of oppritunity.

The longer this fight is going it favours the juggernaut, if hulk starts to get tired, he will lose his strength drastically, if he does then it could spell the end of him.

Hulk would win in my opinion.

Still never decided the victor yet I see.

If its a long fight juggernaut wins

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
If Hulk has never made juggernaut feel pain with a punch, why is Juggy on his knees in 404? "Playing possum?" Hah. If you are immune to physical damage, why the hell do you need to "play possum?"

Actually, Juggernaut's brain is vulnerable to physical attack. When Nimrod hit Juggy with a sonic attack (which is physical, not psionic,) it knocked him out. Logically, a barrage of punches could have the same physical effect on Juggernaut's brain.

I agree Linkalicious.

Why does jugs play possum? hell i dunno, i know of two times he has and admitted he has tho.

And about hulk throwing jugs to another state, well, jug could do the same at the beginning of the fight..seeing as jugs base strength is more than hulks, and hulk onlylweighs a little more than jugs.....he could throw him at the begining.

Originally posted by long pig
No, a barrage of punches isnt the same as a futuristic android with pinpoint weakness finding powers.
You can say its not psi, but you dont know....hell, it never explains what he did exactly, they throw it up to futuristic shit.

Why does jugs play possum? hell i dunno, i know of two times he has and admitted he has tho.

And about hulk throwing jugs to another state, well, jug could do the same at the beginning of the fight..seeing as jugs base strength is more than hulks, and hulk onlylweighs a little more than jugs.....he could throw him at the begining.

Actually, Nimrod specifically says that they are "high frequency sonics."

Battlefield removal sucks. Let's keep it out of this fight.

wtf, high pitched noises K.O'd the guy?

Yep. Ultra high pitched noises. If Hulk starts scratching a really big chalkboard around Juggy, who knows what will happen.

no shit. godforce doesnt doanything...but if a bat flies by....better watch out!

the high pitched noise never ko ed him, made him scream like a motha F@cker as would anyone lolol