Juggernaut isnt in very good shape. I saw the two of them jumping rope, and hulk totally owned juggernauts ass. jugg head couldnt do one. He did get the girls though. Hulk pussyed out and turned back into a naked limp banner. The girls laughed at banner, banner got pissed and turned back into the hulk. Hulk beat juggernaut to death with the girls lifeless bodies.
Originally posted by savagerampage
Alpha name me one time juggernaut has been knocked out by physical force before Onslaught?im not saying hulk wont win the fight against juggernaut. But hulk cant cause him any real harm, as we have seen in there past 4 fights, he cant hurt juggernaut enough to beat him.
You've read the comic, I've mentioned it multiple times here before. I'm not treading old ground for the 5th time. Sorry.
Those 4 fights haven't exactly been clear.
Put raging Hulk against Juggernaut, both trying to fight for the win. One person is gonna walk out and it won't be Juggernaut.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Pain harms you. If he feels pain, he can be harmed.
Originally posted by Tough GuySo you're saying the likes of Odin, Mephisto, Shuma Gorath, etc could never match Hulk's strength?
you have to remember hulks strength potential is limitless anyway so you cant empower yourself above that
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Pain is just signals along the nerves. I can pinch myself until it hurts but remain physically unharmed.
So you're saying the likes of Odin, Mephisto, Shuma Gorath, etc could never match Hulk's strength?
Yeah, but think of the nerve damage you'd cause if you continued to do so.
He isn't saying that those three couldn't match Hulk's strength; he is saying that Hulk could effortlessly exceed the strength of anyone.
yeah but what good is strength when someone is immue to it.
Juggernaut has never been knocked out pre Onslaught by physical force.
he has been knocked out by telepathic attacks and hurt by magic his only listed vunerabilities.
How are those fights not clear? The savage hulk has fought juggernaut. to the point where his durability is being questioned. hulk says hes tired, the savage hulk, the proof is up posted up there. how can Hulk be tired, well it looks like juggernauts durability is much better then hulks, so if hulks getting tired, his strength should be going down instead of up, the juggernaut even says in that issue his punches are starting to get weaker. So him fighting the savage hulk is no big deal alpha.
Hulk has never knocked out the juggernaut ever. he hasnt even caused him any real harm. look at the fights
fight 1 the x-men knockout the juggernaut not the hulk
fight 2 juggernaut knocks out the hulk
fight 3 psychic backlash knocks out the juggernaut.
fight 4 warhulk beats the crap out of juggernaut but fails to knock him out.
In the 4 fights they have had, hulk has failed to knockout the juggernaut with his own power, while the juggernaut has indeed knocked out the hulk with his. This is fact, and i have put up proof of that, anyone who choses to ignore that is simply just ignorant.
Like i said hulk might win a normal fight, cause all he has to do is get stronger then juggernaut, to the point where like in war hulk fight, he just overpowers him. Like a normal man trying to out muscle a strongman, the normal man cant do crap to him, but even if he outpowers juggernaut. he wont cause any physical damage to him.
the longer the fight goes on, hulk will get tired and weaker as in fight number 1, and if that happens then we all know juggernaut will win.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
No one has of yet given me a logical explanation as to why someone who can be dizzied...can not be KO'd...
There is a type of jelly inside of your inner ear that keeps you from falling down or losing track of which way is up or down, if you shake the jelly enough, you'll get dizzy. It doesnt hurt, it just makes you dizzy.
It's possible that hulk could totally overpower Jugs, and pin him to the ground, but he'll never be able to hurt Jugs.
What good is limitless strength when the person ur up against cant be injured or harmed by it. what good is limitless strength gonna go when ur fighting a guy who can suck u in a blackhole. Just because someone has limitless strength doesnt mean they will win. Its like playing a video game, and ur character can be the strongest ever, but if he faces an enemy who is immune to all physical attacks and u need another way to get rid of him.
Juggernaut has been overcome by physical force. He may or may not have been KOed, but he has been defeated with force. In Hulk 457, Juggernaut was overcome by physical force. He could no longer fight.
whobdamandog has a valid point. The fluid in the inner ear maintains balance, but in order for there to be "dizziness," the attack has to affect Juggernaut's brain, one of his weak points. Massive trauma to Juggernaut's brain could knock him out.
Juggernaut is not immune to all physical attacks. He has been injured (punched, stabbed, etc.,) and he has certainly felt pain when fighting Hulk.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
No one has of yet given me a logical explanation as to why someone who can be dizzied...can not be KO'd...
why should we be giving you proof of this, when you have failed to give us proof that hulk has EVER been strong enough to even cause disiness to the juggernaut... the most that can be said for hulk is that he has knocked juggernaut down. which then isnt a matter of dizziness or a matter of how strong hulk can get, or how durable juggernaut is... its a matter of hulk being able to move 900lbs (because thats how much he weighs). we all know hulk can move that much weight, so we know he can move juggernaut, unless he's in motion...
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Juggernaut has been overcome by physical force. He may or may not have been KOed, but he has been defeated with force. In Hulk 457, Juggernaut was overcome by physical force. He could no longer fight.
no, hulk negated juggernauts mystical energy, there was nothing physical about that... odin could defeat juggernaut easily and without lifting a finger... does that mean hes stronger 😉 i doubt it... the same thing applies to war hulk. his physical might couldnt stop juggernaut, but his energies could. this however doesnt apply to hulk
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
whobdamandog has a valid point. The fluid in the inner ear maintains balance, but in order for there to be "dizziness," the attack has to affect Juggernaut's brain, one of his weak points.
actually, whobdamandog has a rather invalid point, because hulk has never even caused "dizziness" in the juggernaut... so we are back to square one...
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Juggernaut is not immune to all physical attacks. He has been injured (punched, stabbed, etc.,) and he has certainly felt pain when fighting Hulk.
he has never felt pain when dealing with hulk 😉 hulks writers have stated this, it is quite clear that when hulk punchs or throws juggernaut, "ouch" or any other word associated with pain is ever spoken from his mouth. take a look at the times when juggernaut HAS been injured (shatterstars sword)... those are words of pain. not "oof"... which i would say if i stepped on a baseball and lost my footing.