Juggernaut or The Hulk?

It's pretty obvious that a pissed off Juggernaut is going to be able to do more impressive feats than a Juggernaut who looks like he's seen a ghost when War Hulk stopped him in his tracks.

I think some odd 40-50 pages ago I constantly put up the arguement that Juggernaut has "limitless" strength because he has never been shown to be physically "too weak" to do a task. I dropped that arguement a while ago, but if you consider the times when Juggernaut gets pissed off......he does actually show himself to be limitless in strength. (only because no one has made him max out...to date)

well thats not posible if his power source is not limitless. also hulks limitless strength is certain, juggies is not, i think its a myth created on these pages

I have the Updated Version of the Ultimate Guid Book to X-men.

In there it says that Juggernaut's strength has found no limit and that there truly is no limit to how strong he can be. Like stated previously by someone else, Juggernaut can tap into this limitless energy, making him stronger to match his opponent. He doesn't get bigger, he doesn't need to. He just gains even more of the limitless strength he has at his disposal.

Oh yes, they do BOTH indeed have Rage Factors.

The last time I was in these forums I was post #3000. Anyways Hulks strength is limitless and Juggies has a unknown limit. So I dont really think strength is gonna be the deciding factor here.

i dont really care who's stronger any more because i know for a fact that trion juggernaut, juggie's strongest incarnation, is far stronger than the maestro, hulk's strongest incarnation.

juggernaut's rage does feed his power to some degree just like the hulk's also because if u read the Juggernaut one shot it says that "once the juggernaut feels rage, nothing from this, or any universe, can stop him!"

I can't figure out why Toughguy thinks Cyttorak's power gem has limits.
So far the gem nor Cyttorak has shown much of a limit(even when jug was 8th day, he didnt have all of Cyttoraks power..and we know how powerful 8th day was.), and if it ever does, it would certianly not be strength, which is the least powerful force in the universe.

I do know that jug has said he becomes stronger and more powerful the more hate he has in his heart. And two other agree to seeing and reading the same.
I'm sure he doesnt pump up like the hulk(which is not instantanious, it takes time). But he does in fact, get stronger.

Of course, like Snoop said, strength isn't going to win this, fighting skills, durability and endurance will.

So who's the better fighter?
Who has more stamina?
Who can endure physical attacks more?
Who is smarter?

In a fight that continues to go on, longer and longer, history tells us that the Hulk can become so enraged that he will no longer have any sentient thought in his head, he would just be a large mass of muscle with no intelligence, just lumbering around like a caveman.

Juggernaut, on the other hand, doesn't seem (at least from history and owned comics that I have) to lose the intelligence that he has (not saying that is very smart, but he knows how to fight, that's for sure), even when he becomes enraged.

So basically, the longer the fight, the dumber Hulk gets, while Juggernaut keeps what little intelligence he has.

Stamina is basically the same. Hulk can actually be punctured by physical attacks (though it is EXTREMELY hard to do so), while Juggernaut's skin had literally not be pierced.

And fighting ability is really just about the same.

This difference in intelligence will play a key factor in this epic battle.

* juggie limitless strength, um no, it sees the longer the threads go on the more powerful we make juggie just so he can hold his own lol.
* as has been stated so many times hulk will just increase his strength till he is too much for juggie to handle and overpower him so badly he gets hurt and there is nothing cyttorak can do to protect the little tin fella. but im sure juggie will still yet pick up a few more powers as this thread goes on to have him have a chance, maybe well find out he is green and gets stronger the angrier he gets lol

also juggie is NOT a better fighter than hulk , or any more invulnerable , as far as i know hulk is noyt able to be killed

^^^^^^^^^ hollow claims 😉 ^^^^^^^ you know all this because hulk has never hurt juggernaut 😉 yea... i bet that really helps your arguement...

Obvioulsy Hulk has hurt Juggs.

name a time and a place 😉 i think your claim will fall well short of being fact...

A claim can be false, facts cant, and the facts show Jug gets stronger with hate.
No human terran has ever physically hurt jug without use of magic or PIS ever.

Hulk cant ever become strong enough to negate the will of cyttorak, strength cant do everything.

ok its killing me now, what the f does PIS mean?

i cant believe this thread is still going on. Look, they are equal in strength, but Juggy is way more durable and he doesnt tire, so juggy wins cuz anything Hulk can do to Juggy, Juggy can do the same to Hulk but the difference is that it will hurt the Hulk, while juggy wont even feel it.

Originally posted by armandovalles
i cant believe this thread is still going on. Look, they are equal in strength, but Juggy is way more durable and he doesnt tire, so juggy wins cuz anything Hulk can do to Juggy, Juggy can do the same to Hulk but the difference is that it will hurt the Hulk, while juggy wont even feel it.

They are equal in strength till hulk get mad and hulk smash puny binhead

exactly, huks strength realy is second to no ones in potential , especially juggie. juggies strength may be mystical or unknown, but is certainly not in the same league as hulks. also, hulk heals faster the more angry he gets so er juggie couldnt harm him. hulk i believe cannot be killed, he has headled himself from next to nothing

Originally posted by Tough Guy
exactly, huks strength realy is second to no ones in potential , especially juggie. juggies strength may be mystical or unknown, but is certainly not in the same league as hulks.

Of course, once Savage Hulk gets mad... that's another story as we all know.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
exactly, huks strength realy is second to no ones in potential , especially juggie. juggies strength may be mystical or unknown, but is certainly not in the same league as hulks. also, hulk heals faster the more angry he gets so er juggie couldnt harm him. hulk i believe cannot be killed, he has headled himself from next to nothing

And how do you imagine that Hulk would actually hurt Juggernaut as well? I can see that you know that Hulk's healing factor is incredible. And it is, he heals so fast it's as if he wasn't attacked at all.

But what you seem to be forgetting, is that Juggernaut himself is, in fact, INVULNERABLE. Unlike the Hulk who heals uber quickly, Juggy doesn't need to heal. His skin nor his armor can be pierced. So we're basically talking about two INVULNERABLE people here. Not just one, being the Hulk.

So, now it seems that both Strength and Durability are not needed in this battle. This has now become a battle of heart (will), stamina, endurance, fighting know-how, and just plain intelligence.