Juggernaut or The Hulk?

as ive said yea im invulnerable so id better have a force field mmmmmm nonsense.
its all hypothesis her long pig as hulk and juggie have never really gone at it unless u count war ve juggie, in which case juggie got mullered.
er hulk has nearly killed thor b4, he doesnt always hold back as he knows that physically hulk is too strong in the long run. of course thor has won b4 it would be pretty lame for thor if he couldnt get a victory over earths mightiest mortal at some point, though in a brawel hulk just gets too strong in the end.
hulk can escalate his strength to whats required and ive read juggies enchantment just protects from most physical harm unless that physical power is powerful enough to harm him

I just honestly want to know where you've read that. I'm not trying to challenge you or anything, but man, that knowledge would be extremely appreciated.

Haha.
He didn't read it anywhere MERC, he's just making it up.

Who would be stupid enough to write (or believe) Hulk can be strong enough to do anything? It's foolish.

He comes in with the same argument everytime, and we prove him wrong everytime.....he's a persistant lil bugger I'll give him that.

Thor beats Hulk 99% of the time.
Jugs beats Thor 99% of the time, and Thor only survives by teleporting Jugs away.

That should tell you Hulk is outclassed.

Now this guy is saying Jugs forcefield is stupid therefore he loses?
WTF?
His forcefield is extra protection, he wouldn't have been affected by Nimrods attack if his forcefield was up.

Seriously, it's a done deal, Hulk will never win unless he get help from others or if he hides from Jugs.
The End.

Originally posted by long pig
Haha.
He didn't read it anywhere MERC, he's just making it up.

Who would be stupid enough to write (or believe) Hulk can be strong enough to do anything? It's foolish.

Actually I was talking about this.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
...ive read juggies enchantment just protects from most physical harm unless that physical power is powerful enough to harm him

I was hoping you weren't talking about the other, I knew you were smarter.

I'd like to see where he's seen that Jug is only invulnerable to some things.

Hey!
Found new info on jugs.
It's official, he does get stronger.

On his official bio on Marvelcomics.com, it's stated that once he tries to lift or move something, he will, no matter what.
He can become as strong as Hulk indefinatly.

er marvel eh the same guys that printed their top trump card with juggie about as strong as she hulk hmmmmm.( classic juggie by the way) he is not regarded as being unlimited in strength that is not his character. the bio merc was one posted on here by a juggie fan some pages back and stated that juggie is invulnerable to most levels of physical harm. thor being pummelled is also on this thread at some point. i cant remember who actually posted the story now. the way it comes accross is cyttoraks magic enables juggie to become unstoppable, also protecting him from most levels of physical harm. this doesnt really make for a hulk beating

im pleased to have the last word, as it is clear i am rarely wrong

That's not why nobody replied to you.

well im still right

What would it take for you to think Jug would win?

something more than well he is indestructable, i mean hulk has limitless strength, healing yet still gets knocked out from time to time by say namout because an indestructable character would be pointless, ''oh look its indestructable man with limitless strength, shall we rush to stop him'', '' er no whats the point he can only be stopped by magic, and even then certain sorts whats the point, lts piss off somewhere else.'' lmao.
secondly if u want to be kind of scientific, someone with unlimited strength potential would still be able to hurt anything, he would just need to reach the amount of strength needed to inflict injury. as characters go ive only really read juggie as being a massively powerful being in strength and durability with the ability to be unstoppable when moving. all of a sudden he has the same powers as hulk , is stronger ( an impossibility as u cant get stronger than something with no limit), and no amount of physical power can stop him. hulk as a character ( and writers regularly dont use him to his full potential due to how powerful a hero he is) is able to heal quicker the madder he gets ( with no known limit) and get stronger at the same time ( and this can be as quick as it takes him to get pissed.) nowthat gives writers the ability to use him at any particular power level. against the thing say he will be written to be slightly more powerful than old benjy, against abom he will have to wait a certain amount of time to get mad enough etc, thats why using previous comics is inconsistant and of little use to the debate. character wise hulk is potentially far stronger and also jst as durable as juggie which makes juggie fallible im afraid to a certain level of physical attack, and hulk is more than capable of getting powerful enough to dish out that attack.

How do you know Jug is fallible to a certain level of physical attack?

It's not impossible to be stronger than the hulk, they both have limitless strength, but Jug's base strength is more than Hulk's calm strength.

Jugs has never been defeated by simpling knokimg him out physically. It's always telepathy or teleportation. Everyone for hulk rants about how jug fans always say he's indestructible; but then they always say he will win because he has unlimited strength ironic. Now jugs can knock hulk out it happened when he was out of armor and working as a lumberjak in south america. In keeping with everything though the hulk is over hyped. jugs is underhyped. Evrytime jugs fights someone it is the greatest fight in their life why because out of everyone in the marvel universe he is the only one who can boast indesructability with absolute strength and the inability to die. Even the hulk skin can be penetrated, but hulk can go toe-to-toe with anyone even jugs. all in all it comes down to a draw. I say this because jugs can not be completly defeated while hulk can last for long periods of time. LOL but out of everyone in marvel jugs can play the hulk game "smash" just as good as the green titan.

er hulk has limitless potential, threfore no matter how strong u are he will get stronger. ive only heard of juggie having limitless strength on tghis thread, not in anything else i have read. also i have only heard of him being physically indestructable on this thread, no where else. from what ive read on juggie he is susceptable to a owerful enough level of physical harm. hulks base strength is also very random. sometimes ben grimm will give him a good battle, others he will be pulling along thousands of tonnes

" hulk has limitless potential, threfore no matter how strong u are he will get stronger. ive only heard of juggie having limitless strength on tghis thread"

No i didn't, it's in his marvel bio.
"once jugss gets ahead of steam there is nothing he can't lift.
He's strength is indeed limitless.

"from what ive read on juggie he is susceptable to a owerful enough level of physical harm"

Name one time he's been hurt by phsical, means.
Whan have Jugs ever been hurt physically with out maigc?

That must be poor writing. Juggs doesn't slow down, and should have everlasting stamina. Hulk does not have everlasting stamina, check this out, Juggs is the man!

Hulk no smash Juggy?

Originally posted by teddygreen17
That must be poor writing. Juggs doesn't slow down, and should have everlasting stamina. Hulk does not have everlasting stamina, check this out, Juggs is the man!

juggie does not have unlimited strength, well not classic juggie anyway. hulk does. also huk has haling that renders him virtually as indestructable as juggie. both will be harmed by a powerful enough physical blow. in fact i have some reasonably new marvel cards with classic juggie on them and he is 9 out 10 compared to hulks 10