Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Well seeing as were now including practically invincible, supreme, "God-like beings into this - I funnily enough recall a time when a being known as Onslaught nearly made Juggernaut wet himself only to be stopped by Hulk (and yes it was his physical strength that pierced the armour) - when the combined efforts of the X-Men etc couldnt even hurt him...Which brings us back to the original point of this thread - and that is HOW is Juggernaut going to beat the Hulk?!...I just don't see it happening...

What do you mean? Cyttorak has always been godlike, perhaps more so, considering he is both demon/god.

Jugs is Cyttoraks avatar, sent to gain worship for Cyttorak, he has a good bit of Cyttoraks magic, making anyone under Cyttoraks magic unable to negate Jugs powers.

Oh, and Onslaught was PIS, no one counts it because it was inaccurate.

Im sure it takes a great deal of physical strength to cross the boundries between the PHY and PSI world - somthing Jugg obviously could not do? How can you honestly expect him to take the Hulk in a fight...(and why are we the only ones debating this lol)...

The Onslaught arc was full of blatant errors like low level telepaths reading Juggernaut's mind through his helmets and Hulk getting killed by a lightning bolt. The armor cracking was done by a telepathically enhanced Hulk and really it only made Onslaught stronger except for the absorbing thing.

ALthough I like big Juggs
Hulk'd kick his @$$!!!

Originally posted by long pig
What do you mean? Cyttorak has always been godlike, perhaps more so, considering he is both demon/god.

Jugs is Cyttoraks avatar, sent to gain worship for Cyttorak, he has a good bit of Cyttoraks magic, making anyone under Cyttoraks magic unable to negate Jugs powers.

Oh, and Onslaught was PIS, no one counts it because it was inaccurate.

i never understood why cyttorak gave jugs his power....."to gain followers".....but he never done it......or tried to do it.......all he does is walk around casue destruction.....and fight the x-men and other foes.but he never did anything to give cyttorak followers.....why not strip him of his power......and give it to someone more cooperative?

Actually Cyttorak didn't give juggs his powers. Long ago Cyttorak and other powerful beings made a bet. They would each make an artifact and put some off their powers into it. They would place them on a planet(Earth) once somebody found it and invoked its powers than they would be transformed into that persons Exemplar or avatar which ever you prefer. Now when an exemplar gained an artifact's powers they were supposed to loose their freewill and then they were supposed to mindlessly go to a spot and there their power would judged so to speak. to insure that it would happen as quickly as possible once one artifact was found the others would attract a vessel as soon as possible but when Cain found the Ruby there was a cave in. This is what people believe is why Juggs regained is own personality it also caused for a delay in the meeting of the Exemplars. Now when Cain got out he was in complete control over himself and didn't feel much like doing his masters bidding but Cyttorak didn't care I guess. Finally though Cyttorak figured it was time for Juggs to serve his purpose. To make along story short juggs beat the other Exemplars but did it by breaking free off Cyttorak's control. Eventually Cyttorak attempted to place his mind in Jugg's body to but once again juggs was able to break free of his control. Ever since then as far i as I know Cyttorak wants someone else to have his power but juggs is still the holder of the Ruby so he is still Cyttorak's Exemplar. Although I think Cyttorak has been slowly draining away all of Jugg's power and I think that is where you get the weak version of Jugg's today.

interesting........although its stupid......its like saying galactus cant strip his heralds of their powers......

I know it sounds stupid but you gotta remember that Cyttorak is bound to the Crimson Realm. Basically he can't take the Ruby from Cain and give it to somebody else. He does though drain Jugg's powers to make him a weaker version of his formal self. I think the only reason he doesn't completely get rid of all of Jugg's powers are because he feels Jugg's can still spread his name around or something like that.

got you dude......i agree with you on the slowly draining his powers part.....

Yeah I know Jugg's has awlways been one of my favorite Villians but they riuned him as of late.

yeah he is like colossus level now

Originally posted by colossus17
yeah he is like colossus level now

he'd better hit the gym more character43

colossus is strong!!!!!!!!strong i tell ya!!!!!

"Hulk smash shinny metal man and recycle him cuz Hulk wanna save environment."

Yup boxing
Or work on his fighting maybe he could become the next Batman.
batman

🙁 .colossus will ass rape hulk.......i wanna see him heal from that......

that's gay dude.

Originally posted by colossus17
🙁 .colossus will ass rape hulk.......i wanna see him heal from that......

confused178

Originally posted by Mainstream
confused178

i didnt mean it literally....this is not ultimate colossus....