Originally posted by long pig
Ah, what a galactophagous way to say "etc". 😉The thing about Surfer though is that he doesn't have bones or an inside like humans. His inner is just power cosmic, nothing else.
So it can't be Surfer.
Thank you, there's nothing wrong with the highfalutin if you ask me.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Nope I'm wrong. lolThat yellow blob on the left hand side is wolverine's skeleton. . .
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Ooooo, look it's Thors hammer, anyone know who the sword belongs to?
whoever it was that keeps ths whole enchantment thing going if you read what id said it shows 1 he is not limitless in strength ( couldnt match war) showed a limit. 2. if it was the celedtial tech that stopped him it was created by someone called apocalypse who though powerful is not in the arena you guys talk cyttorak into , so how was it that he negated his magic. solution . the enchantment is not that strong and is merely a challenge to hulk who has the ability to overcome such obstacles potentially. oh the same stream of though goes for juggies '' limitless strength'', and the fact juggie is always ovrpowered by hulk except when he gets his im a gay guy coming out, lumberjack gear on.
Originally posted by Tough GuyYour whole assessment is wrong. The celestial tech broke the enchantment meaning Juggernaut couldn't use his near limitless strength. I could be wrong but I don't think apoc made the armor. Also you miss a key point. It isn't like Cyttorak simply wills Juggernaut to have all this power and he has to keep giving it to Cain to stay the juggernaut. Cyttorak simply allows Juggernaut to syphon off some of his power. It is this fact that makes his strength possibly limitless as he could possibly continue to leech off the power to grow stronger and stronger. But with the confection broken by the the celestial armor Juggernaut didn't have the ability to draw more power for his strength. Much like when he fought Thor. Still War never really hurt Juggernaut simply tossed him around. The enchantment Hulk can not overcome by physical means since it is magic and nature. Hulk can never seperate Juggs from Cyttorak through physical means which means he can possibly always grow as strong as needed to keep up with Hulk.
whoever it was that keeps ths whole enchantment thing going if you read what id said it shows 1 he is not limitless in strength ( couldnt match war) showed a limit. 2. if it was the celedtial tech that stopped him it was created by someone called apocalypse who though powerful is not in the arena you guys talk cyttorak into , so how was it that he negated his magic. solution . the enchantment is not that strong and is merely a challenge to hulk who has the ability to overcome such obstacles potentially. oh the same stream of though goes for juggies '' limitless strength'', and the fact juggie is always ovrpowered by hulk except when he gets his im a gay guy coming out, lumberjack gear on.
Originally posted by newjak86Edit😖orry i hit quote instead of edit my bad
Your whole assessment is wrong. The celestial tech broke the enchantment meaning Juggernaut couldn't use his near limitless strength. I could be wrong but I don't think apoc made the armor. Also you miss a key point. It isn't like Cyttorak simply wills Juggernaut to have all this power and he has to keep giving it to Cain to stay the juggernaut. Cyttorak simply allows Juggernaut to syphon off some of his power. It is this fact that makes his strength possibly limitless as he could possibly continue to leech off the power to grow stronger and stronger. But with the contection broken by the the celestial armor Juggernaut didn't have the ability to draw more power for his strength. Much like when he fought Thor. Still War never really hurt Juggernaut simply tossed him around. The enchantment Hulk can not overcome by physical means since it is magic in nature. Hulk can never seperate Juggs from Cyttorak through physical means which means he can possibly always grow as strong as needed to keep up with Hulk.
yes and the ce;lestial tach given by apoc was powerful to nullify the enchantment. and all hulk got was a higher base strength, its all he used, no hulk force blast, orlasers etc just beef. and if his enchantment is broken by that level of character ( apoc) who is powerful like i said but not on the level u guys talk cyttorak onto then it shows that the enchantment is not that difficult to break. and why is hulk overpowering juggie in 90 % of their previous encounbters if he has limitless strength too?
He never overpowers Juggernaut he tosses Juggs aroung Juggs tosses him around thats what they're fights are like. It doesn't matter if it only boosted him it was the power used to boost him that matters. It was that power not Hulk's normal power that overcame Juggs not Hulk. Apoc giving Hulk armor that overcame the enchanment has nothing to do with Cyttorak. It simply means that he ovcercame the magic energies placed on him by not allowing Cain to leech off Cyttorak. It's the same thing that happened in Thor's fight. He was cut off from his energy source so he lost his ability to be limitless.
Does tough guy know what/who the Celestials are??? I think he just thinks it's a name of Apoc's armor he uses.
Celestials are a group of beings who are > almost everyone in terms of power.
Apoc is incapable of "making" Celestial technology, he only can steal/find already made Celestial tech and harness it or give it to someone to use.
He gave it to Hulk, who in turn used it to null Jug's enchantment.
It had nothing to do with Hulk, War is weaker in strength than Savage.
If Thing had the Celestial's Tech on, he'd null Jugs armor too.
That Celestial armor would nullify Thor's hammer or basically any magic from anyone who is < Celestials.
the armour was enhanced by apoc and given to hulk , this negated cyttoraks enchantment. not any celestial tech has the power to do anything, apoc had to enhance and fashion it for war. this is what stopped juggies enchantment working. cyttoraks power therefore i of no great concern when protecting against hulk. potentially hulkis able to be as strong as war anyway. exactly hulk is tossing juggie around thats overpowering my little drop of gravy.te fights are always stopped to avoid an out and out winner.
Originally posted by long pig
Does tough guy know what/who the Celestials are??? I think he just thinks it's a name of Apoc's armor he uses.Celestials are a group of beings who are > almost everyone in terms of power.
Apoc is incapable of "making" Celestial technology, he only can steal/find already made Celestial tech and harness it or give it to someone to use.
He gave it to Hulk, who in turn used it to null Jug's enchantment.It had nothing to do with Hulk, War is weaker in strength than Savage.
If Thing had the Celestial's Tech on, he'd null Jugs armor too.That Celestial armor would nullify Thor's hammer or basically any magic from anyone who is < Celestials.
you calling Apoc a thief homey....and Hulk wins...never go against green
"the armour was enhanced by apoc and given to hulk"
The armour Hulk had wasent more powerful than the Celestials.
"not any celestial tech has the power to do anything, apoc had to enhance and fashion it for war"
no.
Was War Hulk ever stated to be stronger than Savage? Didnt David called this wrong already?. In fact that assumption that Maestro is twice stronger than Savage its a handbook typo not from the comic. He just knows how to use te strenght better and its alot more inteligent and ruthless.