Originally posted by JuggernautFan
well he's traversed to other dimensions and was even tearing through the dimensions themselves. even time/space have proven unable to stop the power of the juggernaut. but we have yet to see him stopped completely. so i'd say that no force >>>>>>>>>>ANYWHERE<<<<<<<<< has proven capable of stopping his forward momentum.
not tryng to run in circles or anything, but didnt War stop his forward momentum?
from my earlier post and what Ive seen....
Hulk is potentially stronger than Juggernaut, Hulk is without a doubt the strongest mortal on earth.
Not to say Juggernaut dosent have ample strength needed to put Hulk on his ass. I mean if Ock can do it....
Juggernaut is probably at a fixed strength, his strength being limitless just means he will not lose this strength. never get tired
where Hulk can get stronger, and stronger, and stronger.........
Juggernaut IMO is still unstoppable by any means earth has
Originally posted by VENOMfan
Yes I know he can/has been stopped, but this is about Hulk stopping him right?beside's War Hulk, has Hulk ever stood infront of Juggernaut and halted him in his place?
due note these are just question's, Im not really pulling for either in this debate. I just want to have a clear standpoint on the whole thing
BUT remeber there is a difference between unstoppable and unbeatable
Hulk has beaten Juggernat but he hasnt stopped Juggernaut
Originally posted by moshtitan
not tryng to run in circles or anything, but didnt War stop his forward momentum?
this is why i wish 1 of 2 things would happen. 1) you either read the stories...... or 2) you read previous posts. this has already been talked about...... several times. war hulk did stop juggernaut's progress, but not with physical force. he tried by using strength, but didn't succeed in doing so.
dr. strange had been granted use of the crimson bands of cyttorak also. historically they held hulk. but when cast while hulk had been funneling the -other dimensional- energy, he was breaking the bands like they were nothing. the bands were based on the laws of THIS reality. so they were ineffective (negated) by the properties of that energy. war hulk had engulfed himself in that energy, and juggernauts magic could no longer appose the energies. it negated his own. so he was stopped cold. no gradual slow down or resistance, just a cold stop.
but again, physical force proved incapable of doing that prior to the incident.
Originally posted by JuggernautFan
well he's traversed to other dimensions and was even tearing through the dimensions themselves. even time/space have proven unable to stop the power of the juggernaut. but we have yet to see him stopped completely. so i'd say that no force >>>>>>>>>>ANYWHERE<<<<<<<<< has proven capable of stopping his forward momentum.
I >>>>>>>>>DISTINCTLY<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< recall ONSLAUGHT bitchslapping his ass from CANADA to NEW YORK.
Oh we forgot that? You know, with Psylocke on the cover standing over Juggernaut as his ass lay on the ground looking like he needed a V-8?
"Tearing through dimensions." LoL, ah wah doh some fanbwoy yah...
OK, ENOUGH OF THIS.
Juggernaut has torn through dimensions, and it is said he can lift the weight of a dimension through the Cytorak's true power. Juggey cannot be stopped in his forward momentum, if were talking about normal hulk vs Juggernaut.
HULK CANNOT BE JUGGERNAUT ALONE. Now the fact is he stays juggernaut with his helmet off, and hes COMPLETELY RESISTANT to physical force, punches, kickes, head butts, slams ETC. Which is all the hulk has for weaponry.
If the hulk and juggey are on some far off planet, The hulk would never succed in stopping juggernaut. Juggernaut cannot be tired, starved, beaten or supphocated to death! WEVE SAID THIS SO MUCH!
Never, I like your WAY of CAPITALIZING words BECAUSE it makes your POINT clearer. And annoyinger, Its just saying you cant get your point through normally, so you gotta make it stick out.
Yea, Hell yea ONSLAUGHT stopped him. AND THE ONLY REASON HULK DENTED HIS ARMOR, Is because of his strength, the strength juggernaut, being a nasty vigilante, Couldnt care to muster through cytorak. Now, if he had focused his power through the gem, He would have easily knocked that fat ass that is onslaught down. But Juggernaut, He doesnt care. Hes a vigilante. He didnt want to help them in the first place.
NOW, If were talking about Hulk VS Juggernaut. The hulk would have no chance of actually stopping, or slowing down juggernaut, because once again HES IMMUNE to physical damage, exhaustion, starvation, supphocation, ETC.
So there is no way the hulk could stop juggernaut, ONE ON ONE, its impossible for him to stop him.
Originally posted by Never
I >>>>>>>>>DISTINCTLY<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< recall ONSLAUGHT bitchslapping his ass from CANADA to NEW YORK.Oh we forgot that? You know, with Psylocke on the cover standing over Juggernaut as his ass lay on the ground looking like he needed a V-8?
"Tearing through dimensions." LoL, ah wah doh some fanbwoy yah...
see what i mean??? he DID tear down dimensional barriers. it's obvious you know nothing of juggernaut, which is why you are picking to try to make him look bad. again, juggernaut and onslaughts first battle was off-panel. the second was a telepathic assault. whatever. again hulk was knocked out by a python once. horrible, horrible writing. again onslaught is your "savior". everybody clings to that incident.
Oh god yea. You fools who dont like juggernaut hang on to Onslaught incident like a monkey hangs on branches. Yea, never you dont know too much about juggernaut. Because a plain normal hulk, the green hulk normal hulk no modifications no one backing up, Could not defeat Juggernaut. Its impossible.
This thread is over. Juggernaut cannot be beaten, By the plain hulk. Which is what this title asks.
Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
This thread is over. Juggernaut cannot be beaten, By the plain hulk. Which is what this title asks.
(Endless discussion chapter 784-B)
It's not up to you to decide this thread is over. And Hulk can take Juggernaut, but he won't have it easy.
Hulk IS potentially stronger, and Juggernaut IS more durable. This means, listen very careful, that these two powerhouses can go on forever beating the crap out of each other !!!
They are too equal ! It's like dr. Doom and Reed Richards : who's the smartest ? Hobgoblin or Green Goblin : who's the most dangerous ? Captain America or Wolverine : who's the best fighter ? Nobody can answer this, the only thing you can do is speak your mind, but you can never proof it.
The same with the Hulk/Juggernaut fight : a winner depends entirely on the writer. So what's the use in arguing ? The writers do whatever they like.
Now I vote for Hulk because I like him more than I like Juggernaut, but I admit Juggernaut has a good chance beating Hulk too.
"This thread is over. Juggernaut cannot be beaten, By the plain hulk. Which is what this title asks."
Yeah but that's you. You think Juggernaut couldn't be beaten by Hulk. I and others, know he can. So yeah. If you didn't know about Marvel Directory you'd have been out of this debate by page 3.
"They are too equal ! It's like dr. Doom and Reed Richards : who's the smartest ? Hobgoblin or Green Goblin : who's the most dangerous ? Captain America or Wolverine : who's the best fighter ? Nobody can answer this"
I can give quite clear answers. Doom takes it on more than scientific intelligence. Green Goblin beats Hobgoblin. Wolverine beats Captain America. Simple.
-AC
DUDE, The plain green hulk? He cant beat juggernaut. BECAUSE HIS ONLY DAMAGE IS PHYSICAL... God... Do you know what immune, or resistant means? Juggernaut cant be hurt by physical damage, imposternaut can, but thats uncanny x-men, And juggernaut would never join with the x-men.
Marvel Directory? Oh I know about it. Cept I dont need to use it, BECAUSE I HAVE ALL THE INFO FROM THE COMICS. Ive gone to hundereds of comic conventitions, talked to people in corporation with marvel ,I saw them back in 85 in chicago so, ive been around that block before. You may need to use marvel directory, I dont.
Alright, Alpha Centauri, you answered all those questions, You think your so great? You think you know everything? WELL, ANSWER THIS.
John jameson was infected BY WHAT TYPE OF MOON ROCK. That made him turn into a werewolf. Thats not on marvel directory.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I can give quite clear answers. Doom takes it on more than scientific intelligence. Green Goblin beats Hobgoblin. Wolverine beats Captain America. Simple.-AC
You wish it were simple. But it isn't. Your "answers" are just your own opinion, nothing more.
And the Hulk-Juggernaut fight => not simple !
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JuggernautFan
this is why i wish 1 of 2 things would happen. 1) you either read the stories...... or 2) you read previous posts. this has already been talked about...... several times. [/QUOTE/]
i just like to make sure i have the all the facts before picking a winner. and i knew this had been talked about, that is why i put the disclaimer about the going in circles, its just all the info. runs together after awhile.
sorry.
Originally posted by who?-kid
(Endless discussion chapter 784-B)It's not up to you to decide this thread is over. And Hulk can take Juggernaut, but he won't have it easy.
Hulk IS potentially stronger, and Juggernaut IS more durable. This means, listen very careful, that these two powerhouses can go on forever beating the crap out of each other !!!
They are too equal ! It's like dr. Doom and Reed Richards : who's the smartest ? Hobgoblin or Green Goblin : who's the most dangerous ? Captain America or Wolverine : who's the best fighter ? Nobody can answer this, the only thing you can do is speak your mind, but you can never proof it.
The same with the Hulk/Juggernaut fight : a winner depends [b]entirely
on the writer. So what's the use in arguing ? The writers do whatever they like.Now I vote for Hulk because I like him more than I like Juggernaut, but I admit Juggernaut has a good chance beating Hulk too. [/B]
Now this I agree with, tho the V-8 thing was hilarious
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Green Goblin beats Hobgoblin.
-AC
How? if you pit the best (Rodrick Kingsley)Hobgoblin against the best (Norman Osborn)Green Goblin
I think you will be quite suprised by the outcome
I think that the Hulk would win this one, I mean he stands toe to toe with Thor, who i think could be Juggy, and gets more powerful the angrier he gets, so lets say Juggernaut has the upper hand at the beginning, the Hulk would get even more mad, thus adding to his power until her beats Juggy!
Nuff Said on this fight