Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Victor Von Doom486 pages
Originally posted by doomsday49
you mean that magic that was suppose to contain him before he smashed it open. *cough*crim*cough*son*cough*band*.....cough

You know what's good for that? Honey.

Oh I see, you were just typing *cough* as a joke, the humourous element being that you were saying something in an obscured manner-by coughing- but then still allowing the person at whom the comment was aimed to read it. 😑

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You know what's good for that? Honey.

Oh I see, you were just typing *cough* as a joke, the humourous element being that you were saying something in an obscured manner-by coughing- but then still allowing the person at whom the comment was aimed to read it. 😑

He's talking about when Hulk broke out of Dr. Stranges crimson bands. . . Which was a will power battle, not any magic resistance.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's talking about when Hulk broke out of Dr. Stranges crimson bands. . . Which was a will power battle, not any magic resistance.

I know...I was just commenting on the coughing. Was a random reply. 🙄

Originally posted by doomsday49
Although i believe rune thor would probably take down hulk. But no kill him.

Rune Thor DID kill Hulk.

"please explain to me how he would kill hulk. Blast him? freeze him? burn him? disintegrate him to the bone? nope. Happened all before. Anything and everything has happen to hulk and he still "got back up". Unless thor has some kind of ability to affect his opponent at a molecular level i don't see hulk dying. "

For that you would have to belive Odin wouldnt kill Hulk as well.

And see the post above.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's talking about when Hulk broke out of Dr. Stranges crimson bands. . . Which was a will power battle, not any magic resistance.

Actually it was neither.

The laws of the universe didn't apply to the pocket dimension they were in. Basically, most things anyone wanted to become true, came true.

Mindless Hulk wanted to break the bands, so he did.....but anyone could have in that dimension. Hulk's strength had nothing to do with it, otherwise he'd have broken them 20 years ago, but he never could.

No one has yet to break the bands while the caster was in strong physical form and concious.

Originally posted by Creshosk
A fight of will power versus a restrictive non damaging magic, is not the same thing as as offensive damaging magic.

1.You mean like throwing spells at hulk? What do you think the band was, it was a form of spell impose upon hulk. Imposing is a form of attack.

2. Wendigo was a creature of magical property. he did not throw spells and at hulk but he was magic manifested; he was the spell used so to speak. He was definately on an offense since the two did do battle. Hulk was able to resist as well as attack. Nobody won or lose, but this battle was important in showing hulk is able to defend against magic as well as oppose magic.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's talking about when Hulk broke out of Dr. Stranges crimson bands. . . Which was a will power battle, not any magic resistance.

see above

The crimson bands are more of a passive magic, even if they weren't, they are one of the strongest magics in the universe.

Even so, Hulk has been shown taken out 100's of times by magical assaults. He does well against magical creatures, but never against magic itself.

A good idea of it was in the Defenders:

Hulk:"Hulk tired of magician giving orders! Hulk smash!"
Strange: "Sleep, Hulk"
Hulk: "zzzzzzz"

Lets not forget Hulk has actually been beaten by Juggernaut before only to be saved by x-men/red skull.

Originally posted by long pig

He does well against magical creatures, but never against magic itself.

which is exactly what juggernaut is.

perhaps if juggernaut is dr. strange then the face of the debate would be altered a bit but he is not. He is simply what you just describe, a magical creature. Unless the topic is change to cytorrak vs hulk, the dimension of the battle remains the same: Natural strength vs mystical strength. Cytorrak is not only a god of strength but of other factors as well, but the fraction that cain marko received was the strength aspect of it. Strength battle against someone,who's sole purpose of existence when created by writers as to be "The strongest there is" is hmmm....let's just say it ain't gonna be an easy match.

Good one, but has he ever broke an enchantment of a magic creature? 😉 No, no, no.

I still think it's a tie, nothing has been said that proves otherwise.

Originally posted by long pig

Lets not forget Hulk has actually been beaten by Juggernaut before only to be saved by x-men/red skull.

I still don't agree and you still haven't prove it yet.

Originally posted by long pig
Good one, but has he ever broke an enchantment of a magic creature? 😉 No, no, no.

I still think it's a tie, nothing has been said that proves otherwise.

Holy cow we have an agreement.

I've always said tie, it just seems people are confused about the whole crimson band deal.

Originally posted by Tron
Rune Thor DID kill Hulk.

are you referring to the 'what if' story?

Originally posted by long pig
I've always said tie, it just seems people are confused about the whole crimson band deal.

duly noted

I like both juggernaut and hulk. but hulk is stronger than juggernaut
Ive looked at ratings from online and many other cards i have. and look at incredible hulk #404 hulk and juggernaut team up and go after the city. but at the end of the book they get into it and hulk knocks out juggy

Originally posted by gladiator69
I like both juggernaut and hulk. but hulk is stronger than juggernaut
Ive looked at ratings from online and many other cards i have. and look at incredible hulk #404 hulk and juggernaut team up and go after the city. but at the end of the book they get into it and hulk knocks out juggy

No he doesn't.

hulk would win eventualy